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Post by mady on Apr 11, 2016 7:40:35 GMT
What combination of double bit do people use?
I have tried a few and just can't seem to get it right. We are now with a NS beval bradoon but seems to lean terribly and locks neck.
Tried snaffles but can find the right one that causes the same issue.
Considering reverting back to Pelham so open to any suggestions please :-))
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sarahp
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Post by sarahp on Apr 11, 2016 7:52:17 GMT
If mine I'd try using the snaffle (not wilki or beval) mouthpiece that you would use if riding him in a snaffle, if that makes sense - my English that is, not the suggestion, I know that does! A beval does give some poll pressure, that's what the curb bit is for! The bridoon is there to give snaffle action and you should be able to ride using the two reins separately for whichever action you need.
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Post by gillwales on Apr 11, 2016 8:17:00 GMT
if your horse does not go properly in a snaffle bit then it is not ready for a double. The bradoon should act in that way; i.e. to RAISE the head, no preasure should be applied to the poll in any way. Personally I like french link loose ring snaffles as it overcomes the nutcracker action of a standard snaffle. Attention should be paid to the curb chain, try an elastic or leather one, if you use a chain then please use a double link chain rather than a single link as it is kinder. Make certain this is fitted correctly and use a lip strap.
Remember to ride from behind into the bit rather than using the bit to obtain an outline, if this is what you are doing then the horse will lean and lock it's neck, this is an evassion due to being uncomfortable in it's mouth, when you have this problem always go for a milder bit, the stronger options are never the answer and if by chance you do get the result you are looking for it will only be down to the discomfort of the horse.
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Post by mady on Apr 11, 2016 9:22:41 GMT
Thanks sarahp and gillwales Super advice
He rides nicely in an NS starter so will try that along with an elastic curb not a chain as I'm using now
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Post by bubbles1822 on Apr 11, 2016 20:26:19 GMT
Try a leather curb... We have a pony that wouldn't accept the 2 bits and we have just left him in his Pelham...
Tried a rugby Pelham and he didn't like that either so left him what he was happiest in!
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Post by ponymum on Apr 12, 2016 13:05:40 GMT
Im looking for advice - pony has tiny mouth width - 41/4 and a big fleshy tongue , when we use a double bit , she cannot find anywhere comfortable for her tongue and tends to poke it downwards! Have considered a ns high port weymouth , just wondered if anyone has any experience with one?
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Post by gillwales on Apr 12, 2016 20:07:31 GMT
Im looking for advice - pony has tiny mouth width - 41/4 and a big fleshy tongue , when we use a double bit , she cannot find anywhere comfortable for her tongue and tends to poke it downwards! Have considered a ns high port weymouth , just wondered if anyone has any experience with one? I would use a rugby pelham in this case with a slight port to accomadate the pony's tongue. The trouble is with a high port is the effect on the roof of the mouth.
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Post by ponymum on Apr 14, 2016 11:33:13 GMT
Ive spoken to NS and they have said we have to accept her mouth is too small. So now am looking for a Hartwell pelham!
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