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Post by JessicaT on Mar 16, 2009 12:26:11 GMT
any suggestions please. pony will go lovely in pelham for a few days and think we've finally found a suitable pelham, then decides its the worst thing in his mouth, going to try a double and see if this is the way to go. teeth and back checked and all ok.. he goes fine in a snaffle be it wilkie copy or hanging cheek
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Post by lfurniss25 on Mar 16, 2009 14:19:43 GMT
have u tried wrapping your bits? i found this worked wonders with one of mine x
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Post by JessicaT on Mar 16, 2009 14:24:15 GMT
Yep, done that, ive tried following bits, mullen mouth pelham, port mouth show pelham, rugby pelham, french link, butterfly ,vulcanite, rubber pelham. Pony not strong, tried all above with and with out curb chain. double nxt try and then need to borrow a happy mouth, could start a bit bank!!
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Post by lfurniss25 on Mar 16, 2009 15:03:52 GMT
LOL good luck with that one  |
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Post by Milliesmum on Mar 16, 2009 15:28:56 GMT
When you say he decides it's the worst thing in his mouth, what does he do?
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Post by hottoddy on Mar 16, 2009 19:03:44 GMT
Double might work then because you can ride just off the top rein and pretty much leave the curb one alone! Mine hates double though think its too much in his mouth!
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Post by marypom on Mar 16, 2009 19:13:32 GMT
yes what is the pony doing when the bit is in, have you tried honey,
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Post by JessicaT on Mar 17, 2009 6:59:13 GMT
he sticks his nose in the air,usually transition down from canter to trot or walk to trot. went well in double last night, fingers crossed. but he can go well for a few days. yep tried the honey or molasses thing even bongela on the wrapped bits!. ponies, got to love them
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Post by fayeandash on Mar 17, 2009 7:52:52 GMT
we had a horse once that used to become too familiar with a bit, so we alternated between a few bits, only using a bit for a few nights then swapping it, this worked wonders for him, hope you find a solution soon i know how frustrating it is xx
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Post by Milliesmum on Mar 17, 2009 8:00:56 GMT
Well if he goes well in a hanging cheek or wilkie then he doesn't mind a little poll action, What mouthpiece are your snaffles? The longer the cheek on the poll/weymouth then the more exaggerated the poll action, so if it's that he doesn't like you need to find the shortest cheeks possible. If it's the added curb action he's resisting, have you tried an elastic curb or a rubber guard on the curb chain?
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Post by sarah00000 on Mar 17, 2009 8:55:37 GMT
My pony goes happily in a waterford pelham, have you tried one?
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Post by Julie(luke3) on Mar 17, 2009 12:19:49 GMT
I know this sounds daft but if he's not strong then try riding him in a headcoller or bitless bridle for a few days. Just to see if he does that with his head anyway! good luck
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Post by sweetsweetpea on Mar 17, 2009 12:42:06 GMT
try a waterford or an old fashioned port hard to get hold of but this might work also have you had his teeth done recently ? might be worth a check x
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Post by JessicaT on Mar 17, 2009 13:44:37 GMT
yep teeth done, short shanks and all bits are made for ponies. Got a lwather curb on and its really only decoration. he doesnt seem to mind the poll action, though he does this if you ride him in a fylde wilkie? Very frustrating as he can and 80 % of time goes lovely. I'll get there ;D
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Post by Milliesmum on Mar 17, 2009 14:43:02 GMT
I def think its the exaggerated poll action - the rein loop is on the outside on a fylde wilkie so that would give more poll pressure than one where the loop is on the inside. In that case a double is your best bet as said above - you can basically leave the curb alone and ride on the snaffle. Would be interested to know if he's better in a pelham with roundings on.
Have also been looking at the elevator bridle and wonder if that might help.
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Post by ferret on Mar 17, 2009 22:52:55 GMT
i had the same probs with my conni , and he now is fab in a waterford pelham too ...worth a try !
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Post by JessicaT on Mar 18, 2009 18:54:19 GMT
Gone even better tonight with double bridle. tried the pelham with roundings - horrific! He seems happy with DB so just going to use it a few times between shows and stick with snaffle. He only has a small mouth and quite a few bits i wanted to try had to special orderd.Thanks for all advice and ill keep you posted
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Post by marypom on Mar 18, 2009 19:07:36 GMT
glad you sorted it,,, yeh we use snaffle at home, an show pelham for shows...
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Post by quilmore on Mar 23, 2009 16:54:22 GMT
If hes not strong and hes just throwing his head up at upward and downward transitions could this be that hes not working correctly? my dartmoor is in a jointed happymouth as he is in no way strong but doesn't like metal or poll action bits. normally it takes him at least 15minutes with his head in the air before he will concentrate. some times making upward transitions if i have't got him working on his backside correctly he will go forward with his head in the air instead of in contact (outline), and sometimes when doing downward transitions if i don't keep my leg while i said for the transition he will lazily come down and not carry on using himself so the head then comes up. I tend to ride him without a flash noseband as thats what it expected generally in the show ring but i do have to keep him thinking and going forward otherwise the head comes up and he runs round with his mouth open. at home if i am having a lazy day schooling i will pop a flash on to keep his mouth shut so its less work for my legs as he seems to give in quicker lol.
i hope this helps, it can sometimes be pointless just changing bits if the bit actually isn't the problem it may be hes trying to be lazy and knows when his riders legs are the least effective so he plays up at this point.
jo
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