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Post by maxandpaddy on Oct 7, 2016 19:01:11 GMT
The field at the bottom of our garden has been sold as part of a building plot to the left of the picture which is fine, thankfully it failed in a bid to get planning permission on all of it! So one house now to left and the field is ok (well no it isnt we tried to buy the field BUT they wanted it as part of the sale on the plot grrrrrrr) The people that have have bought the plot are horsey yeayyyyyy I thought, but it seems the plan is to build the stables right at the bottom of our garden backing onto the wall in the picture. Its a 5 acre field, 95% of it away from other peoples gardens but its there they've said they are going to put them. Now I think they need planning permission for hard standing stables? but does anyone know the legalities of a shelter? They've today laid hardcore and no planning permission in place, but I'm not even sure why...maybe as a low level base to a field shelter? Can anyone enlighten me to the legalities of stables/shelters up against other peoples properties please, even though we're horsey if it was my field I'd of respected other peoples space/views and kept whatever i had out of others way Blooming typical! (Ps: i'm a wimp and hate falling out with people so dont want to offend anyone) Picture to help you see my dilemma  |
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Post by judyh on Oct 7, 2016 19:29:38 GMT
A shelter on skids won't need planning permission. Certainly in our area they would need permission for stables with a hard standing. Take action straight away before it's too late.
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Post by owston on Oct 7, 2016 19:38:51 GMT
If the stables/field shelter are deemed not permanent then I don't think planning is required. However. If there is a concrete base then that would suggest they are not temporary so would need planning. Also is the field agricultural or does it have planning for change of use for keeping horses?
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Post by maxandpaddy on Oct 7, 2016 19:53:43 GMT
Its agricultural land
I'm wondering if a shelter with skids would have white stone hardcore down ready for it? I'm pretty clueless with this so asking for advice before I air a concern
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Post by brindlerainbow on Oct 7, 2016 20:07:12 GMT
As others have said a shelter on skids won't need planning permission because it's moveable, although if they've put down hard core it doesn't sound like they intend to move it. However the stables/shelter are going to be considerably higher than the wall and I'm sure there is some clause or other when planning permission is applied for about easement of light ( probably the wrong term!! ) but basically a building shouldnt be allowed to block out your light. As they havent applied for permission they are in effect by passing this light clause which I'm sure isn't allowed.
Just found this on the internet.......
The right to light in the UK goes back to general property law relating to easements that date back to William IV. The Ancient Lights Law became superseded by the 1832 Prescription Act. NB In the USA all such rights and laws were abolished following the introduction of electric lighting.
Rights to light generally become an issue when a new development, or proposed development affects the access to light of an adjoining property. Rights to light also apply to obstructions caused by trees, hedges and so on, but there are no rights to light for open ground.
Hope this helps
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Post by maxandpaddy on Oct 8, 2016 11:33:18 GMT
Well they're definitely digging out footings today so a shelter on skids seems doubtful....plus they've run a hardcore track across to it grrrrrrr
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Post by brindlerainbow on Oct 8, 2016 13:04:59 GMT
Definitely ring your local council and enquire about planning permission and ask about the light easment
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Post by owston on Oct 8, 2016 15:33:15 GMT
You could always go down the route of them requiring change of use of land for horses too as stables shouldn't really be on what is deemed agricultural land.
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Post by judyh on Oct 8, 2016 19:54:53 GMT
As I said before - get onto the council on Monday before it's too late. People are so selfish and thoughtless.
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Post by gillwales on Oct 9, 2016 6:30:53 GMT
you actually need permission to put hardcore in a gate enterence. Take photos and send to your Local Council. You also require planning permission for a muck heap.
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Post by sarahp on Oct 10, 2016 16:22:46 GMT
I'd suggest you go and have a chat to the owners first before involving the Council. Maybe you'll have to in the end, but maybe they just haven't thought and on second thoughts may see your point of view?
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Post by gillwales on Oct 10, 2016 18:40:55 GMT
I'd suggest you go and have a chat to the owners first before involving the Council. Maybe you'll have to in the end, but maybe they just haven't thought and on second thoughts may see your point of view? This is all very good, however they obviously have no intention of appling for planning permission or they would have done so, they are being IMO dishonest by circumnavigating the correct path; and if they have purchased a building plot the excuse that they did not realise that they would need planning would not hold water with me. It is much easier to prevent a building than getting it removed, and it sounds to me that your new neighbours have no intention of hanging around. On the negative side when you sell a property you have to declare if you have been in any dispute with a neighbour, you must answer these questions honestly or you can be sued and face criminal charges for fraud. |
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Post by kateanne0 on Feb 5, 2017 14:52:42 GMT
From my understanding a movable shelter on skids doesn't need planning permission but it has got to be moved every few weeks.
Go to the council and find out the full facts for that parcel of land. It would be shameful to lose that lovely aspect from your garden. It would be highly inconsiderate of the new owners to put it there!
First instance I would approach the new owners with your concerns. Sometimes people do things without thinking. The horses will also need water and there will need to be a muck heap of some sort. I know that muck heaps cannot be placed less than 3 metres from streams and boundaries, therefore, I think there might be a boundary issue for whatever they are planning on erecting so close to your garden.
Good luck and act quickly.
Just seen this is an old post from last year! spec savers needed again! Do you have an update?
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