Cumberland County Show - 17th June 2017 - NEW VENUE

[lucynlizzysmum]

Schedules available now on www.cumberlandshow.co.uk to either download or message the equine secretary and she will post you one.

New classes for this year are TGCA, concours and Palomino/spotted or appaloosa and foreign breeds.

RI 2018 qualifiers for Hunters; RHS qualifiers for ROR's, SSADL direct Olympia qualiers, M & M's, SHP and SP, M & M's, donkeys, coloureds.

[chris54]

Gutted you are not having Riding Pony Breeding Classes, we have not been to you show for a couple of years this was due to changing the date of your show and it clashing with another shows date. I appreciate that entries in the Pony Breeding Classes are poor but if shows don't keep the classes on then eventually there will be no shop window for breeders and you will end up with no youngstock coming through for Ridden Ponies. I hope you will reconsider and reinstate the classes in 2018. NPS Area 4 did offer you a qualifying round for their Northern Breeders Championship which you did not take up this was for both Pony Breeding and In Hand M & M Ponies.

[lucynlizzysmum]

Mar 10, 2017 18:30:15 GMT chris54 said:

Gutted you are not having Riding Pony Breeding Classes, we have not been to you show for a couple of years this was due to changing the date of your show and it clashing with another shows date. I appreciate that entries in the Pony Breeding Classes are poor but if shows don't keep the classes on then eventually there will be no shop window for breeders and you will end up with no youngstock coming through for Ridden Ponies. I hope you will reconsider and reinstate the classes in 2018. NPS Area 4 did offer you a qualifying round for their Northern Breeders Championship which you did not take up this was for both Pony Breeding and In Hand M & M Ponies.

Unfortunately, due to ever depleting numbers we had to take a difficult decision. As you say, you could not support it because there was a show in the past on the same date for you. We are always open to discussion about our classes and how we run the show.

I am sorry, both I and our secretary were unaware of any NPS 4 additional qualifiers being offered to us. Do you know when this was and we can look into why it was declined?

I fully appreciate that breeders need a shop window, however, it is unfair to expect a judge to travel distances for only two or three ponies in the whole section. The judging panel for the riding pony breeding if I remember correctly (as our secretary contacts the judges) is quite small. If you would like to contact us and see if we can have a way forward which would benefit both you as breeders and us as a show, please email the equine secretary in the first place [e-mail] we would be delighted to hear from you.

On a plus point we now have the show fixed for the foreseeable future on this weekend. Margaret and I (Louise) look forward to hearing from you.

[CarolineNelson]

Mar 10, 2017 18:30:15 GMT chris54 said:

Gutted you are not having Riding Pony Breeding Classes, we have not been to you show for a couple of years this was due to changing the date of your show and it clashing with another shows date. I appreciate that entries in the Pony Breeding Classes are poor but if shows don't keep the classes on then eventually there will be no shop window for breeders and you will end up with no youngstock coming through for Ridden Ponies. I hope you will reconsider and reinstate the classes in 2018. NPS Area 4 did offer you a qualifying round for their Northern Breeders Championship which you did not take up this was for both Pony Breeding and In Hand M & M Ponies.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

Annually, we at the Border Union Ag Soc. dutifully affiliate to the NPS and continue with the classes. Ok, we have had to amalgamate, ie: all RP classes are 'up to 148cm (14.2hh)' as opposed to splitting the heights as in the 'good old days', but at least the classes are available and obviously Qualify for the NPS Championship Show Finals, with the prestigious "NPS Silver Medal Rosette" on offer to our Champion or Reserve, if current NPS Members.

As Chris says here, please consider re-instating the RP/HP Breeding Section in 2018. In the light of NPS Area 4 offering a qualifying round to their much sought after Northern Breeders Championship, that seems a super offer and one well worth consideration.

Incidentally, the RP/HP Judges' Panel is well equipped with judges. Including those such as myself who reside not a million miles from the Carlisle district - and can multi-task.

Whilst I have judged M&M Breeding, M&M WHP & Plaited WHP both on the 'old' showground and, more recently on the Racecourse (Lou, as you'll recall, since you most proficiently stewarded with me for many hours a couple of years ago!) I have never been invited for the RP/HP Breeding section. Yet, I'm only 60-70 miles away . . .

Indeed, if the timetable & dates allowed, I could multi-task even more, by showing sheep in the am, then judging the classes! Unfortunately with this recent changing of Cumberland Co. dates, it hasn't even been possible to bring sheep in the last few years (since lifting the Suffolk Championship in 2011!) due to clashing of dates (unfortunately your show preceded our Breed Club Show last year; I am Secretary). Obviously, movement licences also preclude. Now that Cumberland Co. has yet again moved dates, this is still an issue, as we compulsorily travel to the RHAS the following Wednesday.

Back to the plot - Lou - do please try to persuade your Committee to consider re-instating Riding Pony Breeding for 2018. And, to look at dates with regard to movement restrictions for Livestock to the big shows. Which would include RHAS & GYS.

It worked well, until your Show moved into June!

Best regards, C xx

[lucynlizzysmum]

Apr 22, 2017 15:06:34 GMT CarolineNelson said:

Mar 10, 2017 18:30:15 GMT chris54 said:

Gutted you are not having Riding Pony Breeding Classes, we have not been to you show for a couple of years this was due to changing the date of your show and it clashing with another shows date. I appreciate that entries in the Pony Breeding Classes are poor but if shows don't keep the classes on then eventually there will be no shop window for breeders and you will end up with no youngstock coming through for Ridden Ponies. I hope you will reconsider and reinstate the classes in 2018. NPS Area 4 did offer you a qualifying round for their Northern Breeders Championship which you did not take up this was for both Pony Breeding and In Hand M & M Ponies.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

Annually, we at the Border Union Ag Soc. dutifully affiliate to the NPS and continue with the classes. Ok, we have had to amalgamate, ie: all RP classes are 'up to 148cm (14.2hh)' as opposed to splitting the heights as in the 'good old days', but at least the classes are available and obviously Qualify for the NPS Championship Show Finals, with the prestigious "NPS Silver Medal Rosette" on offer to our Champion or Reserve, if current NPS Members.

As Chris says here, please consider re-instating the RP/HP Breeding Section in 2018. In the light of NPS Area 4 offering a qualifying round to their much sought after Northern Breeders Championship, that seems a super offer and one well worth consideration.

Incidentally, the RP/HP Judges' Panel is well equipped with judges. Including those such as myself who reside not a million miles from the Carlisle district - and can multi-task.

Whilst I have judged M&M Breeding, M&M WHP & Plaited WHP both on the 'old' showground and, more recently on the Racecourse (Lou, as you'll recall, since you most proficiently stewarded with me for many hours a couple of years ago!) I have never been invited for the RP/HP Breeding section. Yet, I'm only 60-70 miles away . . .

Indeed, if the timetable & dates allowed, I could multi-task even more, by showing sheep in the am, then judging the classes! Unfortunately with this recent changing of Cumberland Co. dates, it hasn't even been possible to bring sheep in the last few years (since lifting the Suffolk Championship in 2011!) due to clashing of dates (unfortunately your show preceded our Breed Club Show last year; I am Secretary). Obviously, movement licences also preclude. Now that Cumberland Co. has yet again moved dates, this is still an issue, as we compulsorily travel to the RHAS the following Wednesday.

Back to the plot - Lou - do please try to persuade your Committee to consider re-instating Riding Pony Breeding for 2018. And, to look at dates with regard to movement restrictions for Livestock to the big shows. Which would include RHAS & GYS.

It worked well, until your Show moved into June!

Best regards, C xx

Caroline, thank you for your input - always appreciated as you know. Chris and I have talked about the breeding classes, and she is going to put some thought in, as we will do, but I would appreciate your input too - so I shall ring you :-) I will mention your comments to the livestock team too. I shall be in touch soon. Kind regards, Lou x

[lucynlizzysmum]

Please note everyone Equine section Cumberland Show passes will be posted out by Monday 12th - if you have not got them by then, please contact us then. The timetable will also be posted on facebook section by then. Thank you - the equine team x