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Post by glencorcam on Jul 23, 2017 19:39:12 GMT
Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Most articles encourage the cut down of feed but i wondered if anyone had any first hand experience of this? And ehat the final outcome was?
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Post by leevale on Jul 24, 2017 5:59:39 GMT
I had a riding pony foal with this years ago. He developed it at about 4/5 months old. He was very mature and well. We weaned him and turned him out. He wintered out (on veterinary advice) on poorish grazing and ad lib hay. The condition resolved itself, the pony went on to do well in hand as a youngster including a supreme championship as a three year old and had a successful ridden career.
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Post by pipandflo on Jul 24, 2017 21:32:12 GMT
My youngster had this again at 4/5 months, his was caused by the fact he was TB/Shetland, we fed for the TB bit and it caused the Shetland bone bit to grow too quickly. Cut nutrition down and he came right (swollen joints and unsound). Went on and became a successful eventer, nowadays I would think hay and a youngstock balancer would do the trick
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Post by sarahp on Jul 25, 2017 5:47:52 GMT
It's the energy content that needs reducing, rather then all feed. They still need all the various essential micronutrients including quality protein. This is what balancers were developed for in the first place - to enable TB breeders to reduce energy in foals growing too fast without compromising the feed components that are still required.
TB x Shetland? I'm fascinated as to how that came about and why?
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Post by flee on Jul 25, 2017 11:47:28 GMT
TB x Shetland? I'm fascinated as to how that came about and why? I was thinking the exact same thing ! |
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Post by oldschooler on Jul 28, 2017 12:04:47 GMT
TB x Shetland? I'm fascinated as to how that came about and why? I was thinking the exact same thing ! Me too. Presume TB stallion, or did the Shetland stallion entice the mare into a dip. Wish you had caught it on video. |
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Post by sarahp on Jul 28, 2017 13:49:33 GMT
TB stallion must have knelt down! I do know someone who bred a Welsh A x WB but AI from her A stallion, it made a nice 14.2. And come to think of it, a foal born this year by a Welsh B ex WB, I think also AI. But a Shetland?
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Post by gillwales on Jul 28, 2017 21:00:09 GMT
TB x Shetland? I'm fascinated as to how that came about and why? I was thinking the exact same thing ! Don't forget you can get 14.2 hands TBs, many of the small ones were kept to "blood up" RPs, If you had a standard mare it would be possible to cover with a small TB. I put my 13 hand RP Stallion on 15.2 anglo mares, they were down hill or in a dip! |
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Post by sarahp on Jul 28, 2017 21:40:13 GMT
Wasn't one of the famous small TBs used in RP breeding a twin, so unexpectedly passed on the genes of a much bigger horse?
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Post by gillwales on Jul 29, 2017 4:43:04 GMT
Wasn't one of the famous small TBs used in RP breeding a twin, so unexpectedly passed on the genes of a much bigger horse? I don't remember, however if the background breeding is big then it can pass on the "bigger" genes. Years ago it was thought that you got the mean if the 2 heights; we now know differently  |
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Post by imprintjam on Jul 29, 2017 6:42:27 GMT
I think Ottergayle was the twin
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Post by sarahp on Jul 29, 2017 8:39:22 GMT
Daughter had a brilliant 15.3hh grandchild of Ottergayle - sire was a coloured 14.2 event pony by him, dam was by an HIS TB ex a Clydesdale x coloured WB mare. He was coloured, with Clydesdale head and hind legs and moved like a WB. Great eventer, but you'd never have guessed Ottergayle was in there!
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Post by gillwales on Jul 30, 2017 10:47:20 GMT
I must admit I had not heard of this condition, so I did a bit of research... just goes to show we don't know everything and never too old to learn. Having said this it reminded me of a horse that I had had. I purchased as a foal and it had growth difficulties, he was a big warm blood with lots of bone. He was injected weekly and seemed to have overcome it, however when he finally matured he developed wobblers and had to be pts. I think this now has a name, like many other things when it become more prevalent.
Based on this I would not continue.
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Post by pipandflo on Jul 30, 2017 18:53:47 GMT
Nobody saw the deed happening but she was out of a TB mare and the only entire in the vicinity was a 3yo dun Shetland registered colt. She was what I call rotten banana dun and the TB was bay so we never queried the parentage, she was a cracking pony but did have her stubborn moments, we only ever got her to load blindfolded with knee boats on.
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