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Post by pretty polly query on Jul 31, 2017 8:48:37 GMT
Having seen the results of the pretty polly classes at the RI quite surprised to see one of the competitors had actually sold the pony a few months ago (and it had been living with new owners) but had kept the ride. Looking at the rules (280) this seems to make the pony ineligible, but just wanted to check others see this as a breach of the rules before I make a complaint?
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If you want to complain
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Post by If you want to complain on Jul 31, 2017 9:52:13 GMT
If you want to complain to BSPS, make sure you follow the procedure in the rule book. I spoke to the office about a potential rule break, emailed all the evidence they asked for, confirmed they had received it then waited. After a couple of weeks I got an email stating that the correct complaint procedure hadn't been followed in accordance with the rule book.
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Post by Procedures on Jul 31, 2017 16:43:13 GMT
If you want to complain to BSPS, make sure you follow the procedure in the rule book. I spoke to the office about a potential rule break, emailed all the evidence they asked for, confirmed they had received it then waited. After a couple of weeks I got an email stating that the correct complaint procedure hadn't been followed in accordance with the rule book. Good god, it's no wonder people complain on here rather than make an official complaint, is it? If they'd said that straight away and advised you accordingly you could have put in the complaint in whatever way was required BEFORE the time window expired. I'm all for correct procedures but I do think some societies make it very difficult to complain officially, what with needing two unrelated members to make the same complaint and it having to be within a short time of the 'incident'. Many things that one might have a legitimate complaint about are not incidents, but on-going situations that don't have a defined point in time. Yes, OP, I do think there is cause for complaint/query or at least for asking for clarification about what happens in the sort of situation you describe. I had always understood that PP qualification is forfeited if the pony is sold prior to the final because essentially it cannot comply with rule 280, but I suppose that if the transfer of ownership was not sent off until after the final then that might be a way to retain the qualification.
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Post by bigmama on Jul 31, 2017 21:13:21 GMT
If you want to complain to BSPS, make sure you follow the procedure in the rule book. I spoke to the office about a potential rule break, emailed all the evidence they asked for, confirmed they had received it then waited. After a couple of weeks I got an email stating that the correct complaint procedure hadn't been followed in accordance with the rule book. .... Yes, OP, I do think there is cause for complaint/query or at least for asking for clarification about what happens in the sort of situation you describe. I had always understood that PP qualification is forfeited if the pony is sold prior to the final because essentially it cannot comply with rule 280, but I suppose that if the transfer of ownership was not sent off until after the final then that might be a way to retain the qualification. It is the bill of sale/receipt that determines the date upon which sale took place, not the date the transfer of ownership is sent off to the society
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Post by Philippa on Jul 31, 2017 21:46:29 GMT
.... Yes, OP, I do think there is cause for complaint/query or at least for asking for clarification about what happens in the sort of situation you describe. I had always understood that PP qualification is forfeited if the pony is sold prior to the final because essentially it cannot comply with rule 280, but I suppose that if the transfer of ownership was not sent off until after the final then that might be a way to retain the qualification. It is the bill of sale/receipt that determines the date upon which sale took place, not the date the transfer of ownership is sent off to the society Maybe so but unless the society knows about it there may be unscrupulous people who are fully aware of the rule and chooses to hold this information back then nail after the event 😳😳😣😣
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Post by Dissappointed Guest on Aug 1, 2017 14:37:35 GMT
Pretty Polly RIHS M&M mixed breeds, really disappointing for a final the small breeds were represented by a number of quality Welsh section B's, all hoys ponies yet shocked to see only large breeds placed,despite most doing good shows. In the rules it states in qualifiers the smalls and larges should go round separately, should this also be the case at the final too ? The ring was moved and none of the competitors were notified, some had a last minute dash to get to the ring or would of missed the class
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Post by Split of breeds on Aug 1, 2017 14:59:52 GMT
I think it is really tough for small breeds to qualify in the mixed class and those that do certainly are good ponies. I think the Open C/D class is also tough on the C's - this year I think there were only 7 that qualified so over 20 D's fotward. They were split on the go round with the C's going out 2nd so all lined up at the end of the line for show. Given that the shows also went on for hours as everyone was allowed to do their own show, most had probably dropped off by the time it got to them! or livened up!! I appreciate it is the luck of the draw when you all come into line but I am not sure why the C's all had to be lined up together. Only one (all be it a very good C who went beautifully) got placed. As for ring communication on the Thursday although we knew we were in the new ring but no communication in the lorry park to let you know that the ring was running at least 1 hour late - so if you do did get down in good time just had to hang around in the rain as it is too far to go back to the lorry park. A good PA system in the lorry park particularly the back ones would be helpful.
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