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Post by Wondering on Aug 2, 2017 16:48:02 GMT
Hmmm so my friend has bought a coloured gelding. His passport identification is plain. Thetes no scewbald marjings on the passport. Just a plain horse. Advice if this is legite would be appreciated
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Post by gillwales on Aug 2, 2017 18:54:32 GMT
do they take photos of coloureds?
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Post by Wondering on Aug 2, 2017 19:14:31 GMT
Not pictures. But isnt the vet supposed to do all the markings of the horse on the passport. Put wholes on aswell as markings identification?
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Aug 2, 2017 19:56:56 GMT
Not pictures. But isnt the vet supposed to do all the markings of the horse on the passport. Put wholes on aswell as markings identification? My coloured doesn't have it's markings in her passport - just her microchip - different rules for different passports I think, and depends on age and depends on DEFRA's guidleines at time it was passported, so not necessarily dodgy!
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Post by Curious on Aug 2, 2017 20:02:05 GMT
Which passport issuing authority is the passport from and does the passport have a microchip number in it?
First thing to do is check whether the horse has an existing microchip (a vet or registered micro-chipper can do this for you), and if so, whether the chip in the horse matches any record on the passport. This is just fact finding, so that you've got all the information you need.
Then: 1) Contact the passport issuing authority and tell them you have a passport in which the diagram and description do not match the horse. Tell them also whether or not the horse is chipped and whether or not the chip, if any, matches anything recorded in the passport. 2) Assuming the chip, if there is one at all, does not match up, or there's no record of it, or whatever, they will ask you to surrender that passport, i.e. send it to them, and apply for a new passport for the horse on the basis that it does not have a valid passport. 3) If the horse is chipped, the chip recorded in the passport, and the two match, the passport issuing authority will ask you to have the identification details completed anew by a qualified person (vet usually), and to send them the passport and identification details and they will insert the correct details and return it to you. OR 4) If the horse is not chipped and there is nothing to tie this horse to this passport, you can simply destroy it, and apply to CHAPS for a brand new passport, telling them that you have bought an unpassported horse (don't worry it happens all the time and any passport issuing authority will rather help you get the horse legal than ask questions about why the horse was sold without a valid passport) get the horse chipped and the proper id done.
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Post by gillwales on Aug 2, 2017 20:10:30 GMT
I think I would ask the previous owner to take it back and return my money, failing that get them to cover any expenses in sorting it out.
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Post by Toaster on Aug 2, 2017 21:42:58 GMT
If a horse is microchipped some passport issuers do not require the drawing to be filled in with markings as scanning a chip and matching it to the passport is proof of ID so the drawing is therefore redundant
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Post by honeypot on Aug 2, 2017 22:03:12 GMT
My pony was passported by a veterinary school, its of unknown breeding on an ID generic passport, I watched the vet do it. The pony is just chipped and there are no markings on the passport, its done for an all in price, I think it was about £30. I think only the breed societies would want the markings recorded now, but really there is no need if they are chipped.
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Post by Philippa on Aug 3, 2017 7:01:03 GMT
Seems a bit daft that the markings page is left in but blank
I'd do as has been suggested and follow the microchip route.
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