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Post by Casprinela600 on Nov 2, 2017 7:32:25 GMT
Help!
my pony doesn't change his leg! well he does just not his back legs and goes disunited!
We are not trying to be dressage divas we are trying to be working hunter warriors lol! as most people know WH needs to be a constant pace without coming back to trot, after some jumps he will be on the wrong leg or be disunited he can be on a tight circle on the wrong leg and still wont change! ive tried doing a figure 8 at home with a pole and sometimes he can do it but most the time he will go disunited over it or stay on the same leg, puff like a steam train and go a million miles an hour! if I take the pole away and give him the same aids he will just go disunited, he doesn't even find it uncomfortable and change himself he will just carry on, he changes if I ask for a very quick trot not even half a stride worth and ask for canter again.
He can do stand to canter, walk to canter and go straight on the correct leg but I am running out of options on what to do!?
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Post by gillwales on Nov 2, 2017 9:19:09 GMT
Does this just occur on one rein? How old is he? Have you had his back checked? Has he always done this since you have owned him or is it a new trick. Is it a particular type of jump? i.e. is it after an upright or an oxer? Well done for the other details you have given us, you have obviously tried a lot of methods to correct this.
Personally the information from above may help to get to the root of the evil and be quicker to sort out.... hopefully!
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Post by Casprinela600 on Nov 2, 2017 12:11:39 GMT
Does this just occur on one rein? How old is he? Have you had his back checked? Has he always done this since you have owned him or is it a new trick. Is it a particular type of jump? i.e. is it after an upright or an oxer? Well done for the other details you have given us, you have obviously tried a lot of methods to correct this. Personally the information from above may help to get to the root of the evil and be quicker to sort out.... hopefully! there is no real pattern to it, he can sometimes even do it over canter poles, he is 12 and never really been taught to jump properly so I have brought him back to basics this Autumn/winter doing poles/grid work and as part of bringing back to basics I was trying to teach him to change his leg as when we have been out doing local WH this year I noticed how messy our jumping was he always taking off too soon or too late, going round on the wrong leg or disunited, He has always done this ive owned him but ive never needed him to change his leg while in canter as never been a fan of jumping and only showed him on the flat. I have had his back done every 6 months with nothing major, I am currently in the process of getting a new saddle that fits him like a glove as his previous saddle is a really old fashioned show saddle that doesn't fit him well |
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Post by gillwales on Nov 2, 2017 15:04:59 GMT
This one is a bit of a bummer. I think you need help on the ground to see if they can see a pattern to it as without this it is going to be very difficult to change. I used to judge WHP for BSPS so I do agree you are correct in saying that a course needs to be jumped at an ongoing canter in a balanced way. One last question, does he go disunited in a collected canter or is it when you push him on? I would try some indoor show jumping over the winter, don't worry about winning but concentrate on a steady collected way of going so he is jumping off of his haunches. I am hoping this might work for you, if it does and once it is established then just increase the speed slightly.
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Post by Casprinela600 on Nov 2, 2017 17:05:44 GMT
He is normally quite a quick learner and im wondering if he generally doesn't know what to do and is just throwing his toys out the pram! I will try get to some jumping I don't have my own transport so its a bit hard and expensive hiring/transporters! we do have our own school with 3/4 jumps so I can make a mini course but like I said at the moment trying to teach him to jump properly i.e knowing where to put his feet and when to take off and to also respect the poles! so even when I do a course they are only 1ft/2ft as im just teaching rather than height!
He is quite lazy behind always has been and he does work on the forward takes a while to get him off and working behind so could he be weak behind and needs more impulsion?
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Post by gillwales on Nov 2, 2017 17:46:41 GMT
If he is still learning then loose school him over a grid with bounce fences so he has to think for himself, that way if he does have a stumble you will not get hurt plus it will be easier to recover without you on board; the bonus is you can see what he is doing. Most young horses are taught to jump this way.
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Post by pipandwill on Nov 2, 2017 20:55:36 GMT
When I used to ride showjumpers, the young horses learning changes would spend weeks and weeks learning to change over a pole.
The ones who found it particularly difficult would have the pole closer to the track rather than over X line- until the understood.
Some take longer than others, I teach all of my workers to do changes, and some take quite a while to figure it out!
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