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Post by Advice on Apr 27, 2018 13:40:03 GMT
Just wondering about the type of bit I need to put the naughty section A. My 6 year old daughter ride the pony but finds her hard to move forward so we have spurs on which help enormously. The problem is when she loses balance she can at times dig the spurs into him which causes the naughty pony to bolt off, sometimes loosing jockey off the back/side door. I am at my wits end! I'm looking at bits and thought a Pelham with the kerb not to tight would help. Now comes the problem, D rings or two reins?
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Post by firtree on Apr 27, 2018 16:05:21 GMT
Don't think spurs are the answer on a sec a you have to be a very talented rider to use spurs they can be cruel.
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Post by janetbushell on Apr 27, 2018 16:38:46 GMT
Just wondering about the type of bit I need to put the naughty section A. My 6 year old daughter ride the pony but finds her hard to move forward so we have spurs on which help enormously. The problem is when she loses balance she can at times dig the spurs into him which causes the naughty pony to bolt off, sometimes loosing jockey off the back/side door. I am at my wits end! I'm looking at bits and thought a Pelham with the kerb not to tight would help. Now comes the problem, D rings or two reins? Words absolutely fail me! The poor pony! And the poor child for that matter.
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Post by firtree on Apr 27, 2018 17:00:34 GMT
Accident waiting to happen I totally agree with Janetbushell.
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Post by Philippa on Apr 27, 2018 18:24:52 GMT
I’m wondering if this is a wind up to cause reaction from certain members. It seems to ridiculous to be true
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Post by Philippa on Apr 27, 2018 18:26:16 GMT
If however this is genuine then get rid of the spurs and give your child a schooling whip to help when pony doesn’t listen to her leg.
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Post by janetbushell on Apr 27, 2018 19:41:10 GMT
I’m wondering if this is a wind up to cause reaction from certain members. It seems to ridiculous to be true I hope it is a wind up Philippa - if it is true then the ignorance of the poster regarding the knowledge of keeping animals & how to care for a child is appalling.
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Post by sarahp on Apr 27, 2018 20:43:03 GMT
I put my head in my hands and decided not to engage with it!
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Post by bigmama on Apr 27, 2018 21:09:13 GMT
1. Take your child off the pony and keep her off 2. Take spurs off your child 3. Put spurs in the rubbish bin 4. Forget about pelhams, double reins, etc 5. Either (a) send your current pony to a reputable trainer with experienced small jockey for schooling ... OR, better still ... (b) find your daughter a schoolmaster first ridden pony to teach her the ropes 6. If you are taking the pee and this is a wind up, forget all of the above and seek therapy
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Post by janetbushell on Apr 28, 2018 6:03:45 GMT
I put my head in my hands and decided not to engage with it! I almost did sarahp but the post was so awful I couldn't! I very rarely offer advice about "problems" as I don't feel I want to suggest a remedy to something when I have no actual knowledge of the situation first hand. I have mainly stopped even clarifying rules, which I regularly used to do, as they are all readily available at the click of a mouse & I do think that people should actually read rule books (boring as it might seem!) because IMO within showing, rules are the only thing that we all have to abide by - everything else about showing is often subjective & a matter of opinion on the day.
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Post by sarahp on Apr 28, 2018 6:22:51 GMT
bigmama - or 5 both (a) and (b) and then get the instructor's help in putting the two back together again - if expert opinion is that they will suit each other.
janetbushell - I agree, so often there must be far more to a situation than is said on here, so any thought could be completely wrong as the full circumstances aren't available.
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Post by CarolineNelson on Apr 28, 2018 7:02:14 GMT
I too, most sincerely hope that this is a wind-up of the 'Flee' variety.
But if not, to give advice these days, however nicely put and intended, one is at risk of being criticised for being unkind or rude. So, well done BigMama for being brave and saying it like it is.
If the post is genuine, this just goes to prove that neither a young pony nor a young child can learn by osmosis. Both need correct, simply delivered education, stability, positivity and encouragement. Which is why the child needs a schoolmaster pony and the pony needs an experienced (suitably sized!) small rider to help it along its educational path. Prior to which, the young pony must have had proper basic education both in the stable, around the yard and later, when being broken.
All a little child can do is speak and steer. The pony must be well educated to voice commands (delivered in a mickey-mouse voice) - and be able to cope with sometimes less-than-perfect wobbly steering aids.
Both need an experienced human on the ground who remains calm at all times. As for spurs, sharper bits, curb chains - NO, NO, NO.
(even the consideration of a giving the small child a whip is never advised - not until a child has gained balance and control of his or her arm movements which is vital before being let loose with another object to hang on to in tiny hands).
As BigMama has wisely said, send this poor pony to an experienced person ASA Very P. And beg or borrow a schoolmaster. Even take the child to a good, reputable riding school. They do exist.
Don't feel too shy to ask for some lessons/advice yourself. This would help you to be able to help your child.
It's great that you both have the pony bug, but that will be short-lived if your child gets put off by becoming injured which, by your description (pony bolting / child coming off "out the back or side door") is a probability, not a possibility.
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Post by viking on Apr 28, 2018 8:13:17 GMT
Awful for both, especially the pony, but, surely this is a wind up ?
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Post by gillwales on Apr 28, 2018 15:54:55 GMT
If we went to a "guestless" forum then this sort of post would not appear. If true, please find a different home for your pony and look for a different hobby
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 19:21:23 GMT
This is undoubtedly a wind up - I hope 🙈
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Post by flee on Apr 29, 2018 16:17:43 GMT
I too, most sincerely hope that this is a wind-up of the 'Flee' variety. Of course it's a wind up but it most certainly IS NOT " of the Flee " variety ! My posts are intended to hopefully inject a little humour into proceedings . If the OP in this instance intended to be funny then they failed miserably , if it's intended to wind people up maliciously then it's utterly pointless . I strongly object to being likened to this person .
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Post by CarolineNelson on Apr 29, 2018 17:26:24 GMT
I too, most sincerely hope that this is a wind-up of the 'Flee' variety. Of course it's a wind up but it most certainly IS NOT " of the Flee " variety ! My posts are intended to hopefully inject a little humour into proceedings . If the OP in this instance intended to be funny then they failed miserably , if it's intended to wind people up maliciously then it's utterly pointless . I strongly object to being likened to this person . "Flee" - nothing personal intended, of course. Please don't think for a moment that you were being 'likened' as such. This OP is confusing. One has to ask, is this person for real?? Three or four sensible people have made 'sensible' suggestions which shows the concern -just in case the poster actually IS for real. The awful thing is, I've heard of and indeed seen spurs on tiny riders. Seen kiddies with handfuls of reins they haven't a clue what to do with them nor the capacity to hold them . . . small children expected to use two schooling whips - AND, none of this on ponies from what I'd call proper professionals' yards.
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Post by ponymum on May 1, 2018 8:52:05 GMT
A pony that doesnt go forward needs long reining out and about to encourage it . Im not suggesting the 6yr old does it, but perhaps mum can? (after she has put the spurs away!)
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Post by mcnaughty on May 1, 2018 14:42:12 GMT
OP - not being one to make fun of what could possibly be a serious question as I don't believe taking the pee is particularly constructive.....
Putting spurs on a little kid is definitely not the way to make a pony 'go' and then putting a large curbed bit in its mouth to make it stop is also bad for both the pony and child! Try giving your little girl a long schooling whip and if the pony doesn't respond to a voice command to walk on or trot on then the stick can be used to back up this instruction. Please do get your little partnership some lessons with a GOOD instructor and also some schooling for the pony from a larger, stronger child or small adult (with no spurs) should help too.
Good luck
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Post by mcnaughty on May 1, 2018 15:20:44 GMT
duplicated
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Post by bigmama on May 2, 2018 10:59:17 GMT
OP - not being one to make fun of what could possibly be a serious question as I don't believe taking the pee is particularly constructive..... The fact that the OP has gone quiet since their original post leads one to think that perhaps they were not serious in the first place
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Post by viking on May 2, 2018 15:30:56 GMT
I agree bigmama, a wind up, or just a little naughty something to promote some activity on this board.
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