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Post by k7ett on Jun 20, 2009 22:26:37 GMT
>:(Is it just me or do most of the Mountain and Moreland Judges dislike Connemara ponies? Most of the shows now are just not recognising them and dumping them to the bottom of the line. Do you think its political? The last BSPS show, in the North of England had five Connemaras in the Novice ridden and all of them were stood at the bottom, surely not all of them were that bad, not only that apparently two of the entrants which were placed , came into the ring well after the go round - I was always under the impression that once the rope was up no more entries were allowed in. Would appreciate any views on this and also a list of Judges that DO LIKE CONNEMARAS would be great then we do not waste entry fees going into classes where the Judge wont even look at you.......... One very disheartened Connemara Owner........  |
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Post by JadeCannon on Jun 21, 2009 10:13:47 GMT
I tend to stick to to the Connemara / New Forest classes with my connie. Although she still does get placed / win at local shows in open classes, but I do find she has to be 100% better than a hairy to win it!
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Post by sageandonion on Jun 21, 2009 13:03:04 GMT
It is just simply a fashion thing I think. Was a time (and it lasted a long time) when connemaras took every top place. I also have a new forest and think it is about time the new forests were placed above some of the connemaras. For example, Willoway Free Spirit, a little dolly dot of a new forest is an amazing pony. Though I am afraid I personally do not like hairys as riding ponies one bit.
Why do you just do M&M classes, connemaras do have the advantage of being rather more athletic than the hairies and are good at every discipline. To just do M&Ms is, I think, a total waste of a connemara.
I bought a connemara eight months ago who had only done showing, I purchased him specifically for his movement, conformation and temperament. He is now working affiliated elementary and learning to jump. He would be an absolutely fabulous working hunter and may be good enough to event, he is quick to learn and totally honest.
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 21, 2009 15:44:02 GMT
Mmmm J agree with SageandOnion, I was looking at some lovely Connies, when I was after a dressage horse. I would have done everything with it, they are so verstile and clever. Wasnt quick enough to get to the really good ones, before they were snapped up, but even so, with the horse I have bought, she will be turning her hoof to all sorts, not just dressage.
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Post by k7ett on Jun 21, 2009 17:57:02 GMT
I do dressage and jumping and hacking with my connie, but I also like showing and its very dissapointing when you work hard only to be dumped at the bottom of the line. I do agree that they are very versatile, but a lot of the M&M world are just not recognising them anymore. The other thing is there are no New Forest/Connemara novice classes which would be ideal for all those young ones. Anyway I love my Connie and would definately have another one - some of these Judges dont know what they are missing by just sticking to the hairies........
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Post by JadeCannon on Jun 21, 2009 18:10:03 GMT
The other thing is there are no New Forest/Connemara novice classes which would be ideal for all those young ones. Anyway I love my Connie and would definately have another one - some of these Judges dont know what they are missing by just sticking to the hairies........ There are plenty of Novice Conn/NF classes - I was at Derby Festival last sun in one! Just look for shows afil to BSPS or NPS. |
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Post by sageandonion on Jun 21, 2009 20:13:06 GMT
k7ett have you asked (politely of course) why you are placed down the line. Maybe something needs a little tweeking which you don't realise. If the judge just says the hairys are better, then thank goodness you have a pony who can do other things until fashion changes again and connemaras are once more the in thing to have.
Go dressage, SJ and eventing where you are marked on you and your pony's ability rather than one persons preference on the day.
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Post by sophieandcallum on Jun 21, 2009 20:22:36 GMT
We have some lovely connies up here and are always placed well, as far as I can see!!
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Post by hs on Jun 21, 2009 21:27:05 GMT
Possibly the connies were overheight? There has been a problem with connies in the past being overheight and judges are now encouraged to not place ponies that they think are overheight.
I have a new forest and they were very unfashionable for a while but seem to be getting more popular now and doing better in the M&M classes.
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Post by hs on Jun 21, 2009 21:30:23 GMT
Pictons have breed specific classes for novice connies/nf. The other thing is there are no New Forest/Connemara novice classes which would be ideal for all those young ones. Anyway I love my Connie and would definately have another one - some of these Judges dont know what they are missing by just sticking to the hairies........ There are plenty of Novice Conn/NF classes - I was at Derby Festival last sun in one! Just look for shows afil to BSPS or NPS. |
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Post by k7ett on Jun 21, 2009 21:50:43 GMT
I just think the hairys are up front at the mo just like you all said. My connie is defo not overheight as only 14.1 (he is now 13). When we have been placed down the line, and I have asked they come out with the most stupid comments, or they do just perfer the hairies. I win quite alot at local area and have had some lovely comments about him. I do think that sometimes, these M & M Judges just dont know what they are looking at (especially where the Newforest and Connies are concerned). Anyway, looks like will have to travel to do more Newforest Connie classes as there arent many in my local area.
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Post by buldu on Jun 22, 2009 9:33:21 GMT
No disrespect k7ett is it not that the hairys that are being placed above you are just better ponies?
I had a connie last season and he always stood up with the hairys never was he down the line. What about the connies that have qualified for olympia they had to go up against all the m+ms.
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Post by hs on Jun 22, 2009 17:09:21 GMT
If you look at the olympia winners over the last few years the connies have done really well. I would say out of all the breeds they are the most popular and successful.
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Post by bowditchblobs on Jun 22, 2009 19:38:36 GMT
I have a Fell and am trying to stick to seperate breed m@m classes as much as possible, it's all welsh winning this way, even if their not that nice. Try to stay in your own breed classes if you can, mind you a top judge will alwys find a decent pony, alot of local judges cant tell a connie from a newfie,- or a fell and dales!!!!
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Post by hp on Jun 22, 2009 19:54:13 GMT
I saw a connie win the novice champ at a welsh show yesterday so do think it up to the pony on the day.
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Post by n on Jul 11, 2009 22:02:52 GMT
>:(Is it just me or do most of the Mountain and Moreland Judges dislike Connemara ponies? Most of the shows now are just not recognising them and dumping them to the bottom of the line. Do you think its political? The last BSPS show, in the North of England had five Connemaras in the Novice ridden and all of them were stood at the bottom, surely not all of them were that bad, not only that apparently two of the entrants which were placed , came into the ring well after the go round - I was always under the impression that once the rope was up no more entries were allowed in. Would appreciate any views on this and also a list of Judges that DO LIKE CONNEMARAS would be great then we do not waste entry fees going into classes where the Judge wont even look at you.......... One very disheartened Connemara Owner........ Was anyone else suprised by the New Forest/Connemara results at the Royal? First eight ponies placed, bay or chestnut, All but one New Forest. It made us smile when a loud cheer went up when finally Rossnagenoe Glen, (a grey Connemara) was called in. |
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