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Post by skint on Jul 14, 2009 14:33:38 GMT
Has anyone got any ideas we have a two year old section C gelding who has wintered out, they were on ad lib haylage all winter. They are on 6 acres of grazing to be honest its not brilliant but I dont mind as all natives so they get fat very easy.
He still hasnt lost all his winter coat still some covering the bottom of his belly. He is very immature but well covered if you know what I mean, he has a round bum etc. I have now got him in at night and feeding him top spec, alfa A oil, and micronised barley his summer coat is gleaming and he is very full of himself but still not lost the coat.
Any ideas of what to try next
Modified to add that he gets a good glug of veg oil in each feed which he is being fed twice a day
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Post by proclins stud on Jul 14, 2009 18:11:53 GMT
grooming block lol !!!!
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Post by eskvalleystud on Jul 14, 2009 18:12:21 GMT
I am not sure and would also like to know as my section D broodmare has the same problem! she is still sporting some of her winter coat no matter what I do, she was rugged up in a combo until February when she was then brought in at night in preperation to foaling, I too am doing the same as you and with a field shelter and combo rug during the winter, esp for a Welshie its baffling!!! the coat will not brush out like you would expect it too!
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Post by skint on Jul 15, 2009 9:15:44 GMT
His coat is the same its as thought it is welded to him and I dont think a block would make any difference to it. I am scratching my head thinking is he lacking something in his diet but he is full of beans and his summer coat is lovely
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Post by colourful on Jul 15, 2009 10:27:47 GMT
Is it your location? Our Cs and Ds were always in a field further in land than the As - they were very near the sea and always took so much longer to cast than the others due to the cold winds. Just a thought.
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Post by skint on Jul 15, 2009 13:12:05 GMT
In the midlands and all the others have a really early coat so I cannot see that being a factor but thanks for the suggestion keep em coming
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Post by eskvalleystud on Jul 15, 2009 17:59:59 GMT
skint, I tried grooming block, mad grooming sessions, the works!!! it just won'r budge either, all ours get fed soya oil in their feeds all year round, no other has this problem bar this one mare, maybe its hormonal with her??!
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Post by JessicaT on Jul 15, 2009 19:57:20 GMT
Why dont you clip it off? just a mad suggestion
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Post by princessstacie22 on Jul 15, 2009 20:34:40 GMT
have you tried linseed cake? was always told it is good for the coat. i'd be inclined to maybe have a word with your vet if you really have tried everything, he could maybe take blood counts to see if there are any underlying problems. just wondering, what are his feet like as this could be linked? xx
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Post by Ziggy on Jul 15, 2009 21:58:16 GMT
Agree with princesstacie22 worth getting him checked out. can remember reading somewhere that if horses/ponies hang onto winter coats it can be a sign that theya re lacking in something and of course hairiness can be a sign of cushings disease.
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Post by nici on Jul 15, 2009 22:31:11 GMT
My 2yo Shetland gelding still has winter fluff on his back, quarters and belly! The 4yo gelding has a little bit of fluff on his belly only. Tried a grooming block, but it's not shifting. Their summer coats are amazingly sleek and shiny though. I only bought them at Easter, so don't know what their coats were like last year. My little Shets have full summer coats, but I expect them to start growing their new winter coats next month, as usual My Welsh A still has clip lines at the top of her legs...
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Post by thecremellosociety on Jul 27, 2009 6:09:10 GMT
skim it with clippers with gradings or a grooming razor, when i used to drive carraige horses the gelderlanders grew hairy bellies and we were made to rip them out I prefer a raxor or clippers and would use that on them when boss wasnt about
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Post by poniesrus on Jul 27, 2009 7:48:22 GMT
Get rid of the veg oil in the feed and add in a mug of sunflower seeds instead (in their shells).
I still have two that have 'belly fluff' - a shetland and a welsh A - but we expect that up here because of where we're situated, another month and they will have their winter coats !!
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Post by welshab on Aug 10, 2009 21:49:20 GMT
is your pony due for worming, i usually find a 5 day wormer does the trick when they are hanging on to their coats
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Post by cassie30 on Aug 10, 2009 22:08:23 GMT
Now someone on here recommended this for this reason, i think it was fox111 who said it, blood fluid, by naf? is supposed to help them lose their coat as if they are lacking in something it can mean they hang onto it longer. Is not expensive, we use it, but for different reasons, but our ponies coat is still sparkling summer coat and he is a welsh! Has not been rugged other than fly sheet either.
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Post by fox111 on Aug 11, 2009 9:58:42 GMT
blood liquid worked for me also global herbs fenugreek seeds.
poniesrus is it black sunflower seeds you feed? i think i remember someone telling me they are easier to digest?? ive never fed them but heard thy're fab.
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Post by Jolie on Aug 11, 2009 13:08:43 GMT
are you sure its not just where his coat is turning from his summer back to his winter coat? All mine have turned really early this year.
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Post by coffeepot on Aug 11, 2009 13:48:58 GMT
You dont say what colour either. No explanation but i have found that light colours (especially Pally and light Dun) hold on to their coats for longer. I have a 2YO pally filly that we didnt see in her summer coat at all as a yearling. In fact until early July this year we didnt know what shade of coat she had because her winter coat was almost white. If you want to show it try warm baths and a furminator.
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Post by ada on Aug 14, 2009 23:06:13 GMT
it might be a good idea to have a worm count done.
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Post by wobbles on Aug 15, 2009 6:15:51 GMT
It's been a strange year weather wise and I have some that cast early and some that are holding onto a bit of belly fluff and some that are getting their Winter coat, we don't get true seasons anymore, we are just as likely to have sun in Jan as we are in June these days.
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