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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 21, 2009 10:48:29 GMT
last fri, violet was scanned again, to be told she wasnt "doing anything" season wise. I had her injected again, and told to wait around 5 days. She should come into season. I am starting to get very worried as today being tues, she isnt showing any signs at all.....  Does anybody think I should take her to see a rig or I have a friend with a sec A stallion, just to see if I can get her interested? Its getting late in the year now and the vet says to give up if this time doesnt work Then to try again next year. What are your views on how late to keep going with this? The weather isnt helping, as its chilly and wet. Last time she was injected into season, she produced a follickle, but it absorbed back, once I took her to stud. Any advice would be welcome |
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Post by fairleykismet on Jul 21, 2009 10:51:09 GMT
I personally would tease her with your friends to see what happens, then maybe you 'could' have another go next month and then leave it at that is nothing else happens
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Post by pattendown on Jul 21, 2009 14:52:07 GMT
yeh turn her out with a little one hopefully the constant attention will help
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Post by kayjayem on Jul 21, 2009 14:59:01 GMT
If nothing happens you could try 10 days regumate, THEN PG injection, THEN if she does develop follicle, inseminate, THEN leutenising(sp?) injection, THEN large glass of wine(for you!), THEN check local paper for a part time job to pay vets bill! Good luck
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 21, 2009 15:22:43 GMT
If nothing happens you could try 10 days regumate, THEN PG injection, THEN if she does develop follicle, inseminate, THEN leutenising(sp?) injection, THEN large glass of wine(for you!), THEN check local paper for a part time job to pay vets bill! Good luck She has had the 10 day course of Regumate and the PG injection. Not heard about the leutenising injection? Whats this then?  I am willing to try everthing! |
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Post by silkwood on Jul 21, 2009 17:16:44 GMT
stop taking her to and from stud, leave her there, but could be getting a bit late now. I think it maybe a good idea for one last chance then start early next season but go for natural covering.
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 21, 2009 19:07:09 GMT
I have discussed natural covering, but as she doesnt come into season on her own, that wouldnt solve the problem. When she is away from home, she gets depressed, goes into herself and shuts down. Even the stud agrees, we need to keep her at home until we get her fully in season, so she cant shut it off.
She has never shown signs of being in season since I have had her 3 years, and even with regumate and the injection, she still has only had one full blown season, but didnt take/absorbed. They think she may think she is pregnant, which is why she wont come back in?
I cant help getting very upset about all this. She is only 7 years old and has been permanently retired from ridden work, due to injury. She needs a job to do and if she cant have babies, what is left for her?
I have to get this to work somehow, as the other option is unthinkable.....
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Post by kayjayem on Jul 21, 2009 19:14:10 GMT
If nothing happens you could try 10 days regumate, THEN PG injection, THEN if she does develop follicle, inseminate, THEN leutenising(sp?) injection, THEN large glass of wine(for you!), THEN check local paper for a part time job to pay vets bill! Good luck She has had the 10 day course of Regumate and the PG injection. Not heard about the leutenising injection? Whats this then? This is only after she has come in season and inseminated. It's also known in lay terms as a "holding" injection and basically makes them ovulate at the right time to help get the timing right and aid conception(in very simple terms but thats the gist of it!) I am willing to try everthing! |
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Post by kayjayem on Jul 21, 2009 19:18:43 GMT
sorry above post is a bit muddled as I hit wrong buttons but I think you can see what I meant!
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 21, 2009 19:34:29 GMT
thanks i will discuss that with the stud and my vet. x
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Post by gadabout on Jul 21, 2009 20:04:05 GMT
I had lots of trouble with a t.b.mare. similar problems, spent 5 years of covering and injections to no avail. Left mare at stud for 5 months and produced a filly. That was the only way. Bred ever since.
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 21, 2009 20:54:31 GMT
I had lots of trouble with a t.b.mare. similar problems, spent 5 years of covering and injections to no avail. Left mare at stud for 5 months and produced a filly. That was the only way. Bred ever since. Thanks gadabout. Maybe in the spring I will try to find somewhere suitable to send her. If she was to be running with a pony, I wouldnt worry, but who runs WB stallions with mares. Its a whole different concept. I agree its totally natural and much preferable to many mares. I just know my mare is such a wimp, she would need to be wined and dined, before even considering "putting out"...... ;D ;D |
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Post by lizziemc on Jul 21, 2009 22:05:30 GMT
i have same problem. mare has been covered in hand 5 times this year. she is not going back till next year now. i just cant take the stress anymore .
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 22, 2009 5:52:58 GMT
i have same problem. mare has been covered in hand 5 times this year. she is not going back till next year now. i just cant take the stress anymore . Well we can totally sympathise with each other then  Its a right old emotional roller-coaster isnt it |
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Post by jebediah on Jul 22, 2009 8:41:06 GMT
A mini colt in the field at home??
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 22, 2009 11:05:32 GMT
Now you are all going to laugh at me.........and everyone at the stud already has.....but:-
As you know I have been panicking about Violets total lack of interest, regarding coming into season. Depsite Regumate and the injection. Last night, I decided to throw caution to the wind and give her my own secret recipe for cheering up any of my horses.
A PINK horse lick..........LOL
I had bought it, to send to stud with her, to try and stop her getting depressed (which she does everytime I leave her there). I decided to give her the lick last night, to see if it could act like CHOCOLATE for us girls...he he
Well I'm blowed. She scoffed half the lick over night, and then woke me up 4.30 am, screaching at the pony. I just knew this meant she was in season, even though there is no visible signs at all. No squirting, tail lifting etc, like any normal mare.
Just took her to be scanned and they are thrilled. One lovely big follicle, ready and waiting to be injected, ready for insemination friday.
They all laughed their heads off, when I told them about the lick, saying "was the lick going to get her pregnant too?".......
I told them no, it was going to stop her getting homesick and depressed, so she would be happy enough to fall pregnant, instead of sulking and absorbing the follickle, like last time.
I am saying all this tongue in cheek, but if she falls pregnant, we will all know why!!!! PMSL
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Post by princessstacie22 on Jul 22, 2009 15:36:35 GMT
PMSL!!!!!! Your horse is too much like her owner!!! I would have loved to see richards face when you told him. But anyway whoopppeeee. I can now get excited for violets foal!!!!
before you know it we'll be doing the youngstock classes together!!!
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 22, 2009 16:26:59 GMT
Richard was a tad embarrassed, when I asked him to carry the lick into the stud for me. He told everyone there, that if "The power of pink" was so bloomin marvellous, he would cancel all my horse insurance policies and not need to pay vets bills!
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Post by princessstacie22 on Jul 22, 2009 17:20:42 GMT
ha ha ha bless him!!!x 'POWER OF PINK' love it!!
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 23, 2009 6:00:34 GMT
Fingers crossed next 24hrs go well for madam Violet!
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Post by princessstacie22 on Jul 23, 2009 9:24:22 GMT
I like Lady Violet!! She definatly is a 'Lady' xx Fingers crossed for you x
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Post by heathers on Jul 23, 2009 12:06:12 GMT
thats good news,fingers crossed
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 26, 2009 19:21:37 GMT
Sorry guys. On my 2nd G&T. Went to Hickstead today, having a lovely time, waiting for the SJ to start at 2.45. Bit worried as the stud hadnt rung to ask me to pick up Violet, who was due to be inseminated fri, collection due Sat pm/sun.
They finally rang 2.15 to say despite the fact that VIOLET had perfect 3.77 cm follickle when I left her Thurs. Despite being injected with the stuff that beings on the ovulation, within hours of me leaving her there, the follickle started to shrink.
She never ovulated and just sulked AGAIN.
Gutted. They wanted me to go to pick her up and have a strategy chat for 5.30, so left Hickstead, without even seeing the SJing.
Got totally lost on the way home and stuck in major traffic. Took 3 hours to do a 1.5 hour journey. Nearly in tears, went to get Violet.
They agree she cannot ever be left there again, as gets too depressed.
We are going to try again next week........... totally gutted....Poor sensitive little mare. As soon as she got home, she sniffed the ponies, lifted her tail and SMILED again.
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Post by princessstacie22 on Jul 26, 2009 21:15:53 GMT
Oh dear. Try not to get too stressed about it. What will be will be and you will sort something out.
Is there anyway they could A.I her at your yard? XX
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Post by ollie120984 on Jul 26, 2009 22:10:25 GMT
Run her out with a stallion, let nature take its course, if its not meant to be then its not meant to be, think vets fiddle around too much with mares, some mares just need leaving alone, one of our broodmares was sold as difficult to get in foal but caught first time in febuary with a stallion on a mountain in wales with snow on the ground!!!,,, good luck
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Post by sarah00000 on Jul 27, 2009 6:20:53 GMT
Cant be AI at home, as the semen is now FROZEN, so its more complicated.
She doesnt mind the travelling to and fro anyway. Its just being left there that upsets her.
I dont think its going to happen though....... I am coming to terms with that now.
On top of that, her injured fetlock (the cause of her being unrideable) has swollen up again.....
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Post by heathers on Jul 27, 2009 9:38:16 GMT
i'm so sorry things are not working out for you and Violet.
my aunty had a hanovarien mare she couldnt get in foal so she turned her out with a welsh cob stallion and she caught.
poor Violet
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Post by pattendown on Jul 27, 2009 23:02:00 GMT
maybe for the 1st foal you should try au nataural with a sec d and once she has had 1 she should be fine
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Post by Tandy on Jul 28, 2009 8:13:32 GMT
I bought a mare from down south that sounds very similar to your mare, the previous owners had tried everything and spend thousands tryin to get her in foal and never managed, I put her out in a field with a couloured Trad stallion, had her injectied once and and left them to it, and hey presto one baby the next year, think you need to maybe think about leting her run with a stallion the first time then next time she will be very up for it after she knows what its all about.
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Post by poniesrus on Jul 28, 2009 9:44:14 GMT
Agree, I'd look in to getting her over to a stud early March next year and leaving her there to run with a stallion for the spring/summer.
If you are taking her to stud when she's in season and she's got in to a routine of shutting down once you leave, then your probably creating a bigger problem for yourself.
Perhaps you need to fool her in to thinking she's been sold to a new home, ie; being left there and not having proper contact with yourself until she's well and trully in foal.
Because she's known to absorb as well, I'd be tempted to leave her at stud until much later in the year, bringing her home quite well in foal.
I know of a very nice TB (ex racer) that runs out with his mares and covers them naturally - he's in Oxfordshire and throws super stock !
Once she's had one foal she will probably be fine from then on. But I'd personally write of this year now, sounds as though she's been messed with enough.
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