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Post by stormyskies on Aug 17, 2009 18:22:01 GMT
i have recently bought a 6 yr old show cob who is built like a tank. he has previously gone in straight lines and jumped, and clearly been hauled about in his snaffle.
he has no mouth, leans heavily and is on his forehand. he needs schooling but am having problems as leg on means just go forward and as he has no mouth, we cant do antyhing like get some bend.
Any ideas how to 'recover' his mouth. i tried him in pelham for brakes but still struggeld. i have now got him in a waterford snaffle to school which i seem to be getting more 'feel' from, but is it possible to remouth him and soften him mouth?
Thanks
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 17, 2009 18:28:29 GMT
I was going to suggest a waterford, as it's hard for them to lean on. I would suggest lots of transitions, circles of varying sizes, serpentines etc, half halts which should hopefully get him off his forehand a bit and working through from behind, which in turn should make the front end lighter. Think it's probably going to take time and patience though.
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Post by stormyskies on Aug 17, 2009 20:38:30 GMT
yeah thats what i thought. he is worth it though. lovely black and white show cob who jumps ANYTHING god love him.
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 17, 2009 20:42:21 GMT
You could always ditch the showing and take him hunting LOL!
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Post by stormyskies on Aug 17, 2009 22:19:12 GMT
i would be in with the hounds!!!!!
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Post by keepsake on Aug 18, 2009 15:53:16 GMT
Yup, I think it will just take time. Schooling him to listen to your seat aids and voice aswell will help. I had a show cob that i had to reschool, he had been used at RDA before i bought him so he didnt understand leg aids, but these cobs are pretty clever they like to make out that they arent but they are Good luck with him
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Post by kayjayem on Aug 18, 2009 21:31:40 GMT
Back to basics on the long reins? Get him carrying himself with his back end underneath him and in balance. Old fashioned answer I'm afraid!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 16:12:38 GMT
I would invest in a breaking bit and work him in it- encouraging him to saliver- hopefully his mouth should soften- hope that helps
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Post by stormyskies on Aug 27, 2009 12:38:03 GMT
thanks all
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Post by mel b on Sept 4, 2009 18:04:22 GMT
to get a mouth back on something, if you tie 3 curb chains together and fix them to a headcollar so that they act like a bit, cover in treacle or honey and leave them in this for an hour a day. this really helps to get them salivating and mouthing the bit again. it might take a few weeks depending on how dead is but it will help.
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Post by shadylady on Sept 5, 2009 11:01:17 GMT
to get a mouth back on something, if you tie 3 curb chains together and fix them to a headcollar so that they act like a bit, cover in treacle or honey and leave them in this for an hour a day. this really helps to get them salivating and mouthing the bit again. it might take a few weeks depending on how dead is but it will help. I agree, I was told to do this by Peter Wilkinson and it definately worked!! He told me he used it on the old dray horses. Also try some lateral work, i know it sounds daft but making him go sideways down an arena wall to make him listen to your leg and just not tank off when you put leg on as they cant go forward cos of the wall... Good luck
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Post by cassie30 on Sept 27, 2009 0:20:06 GMT
Try a myler, they are great, and each side works independantly. Sorry tired cant be anymore technical this morning!
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Post by mayhem on Sept 27, 2009 14:50:18 GMT
put him in the lightest bit you can find and trot him in and out bending poles round jumps.
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Post by stormyskies on Sept 29, 2009 14:25:03 GMT
thanks
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Post by sarahp on Oct 10, 2009 16:51:45 GMT
Lateral work, he has to learn that legs don't just mean go but sideways as well! Working on a circle in trot and leg yielding inward and outwards to make smaller and larger circles is a good exercise.
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Post by saz88 on Oct 20, 2009 11:09:33 GMT
to get a mouth back on something, if you tie 3 curb chains together and fix them to a headcollar so that they act like a bit, cover in treacle or honey and leave them in this for an hour a day. this really helps to get them salivating and mouthing the bit again. it might take a few weeks depending on how dead is but it will help. Do you think this may also help with my horse evading poll pressure..or is that something entirely different?
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Post by sageandonion on Oct 20, 2009 12:40:14 GMT
Transitions, slow him down with your seat, your rising etc, circles, serpentines. He is still young enough to reschool so should not be a problem but it will not happen overnight.
melB usually an evasion of poll pressure is because it is uncomfortable/painfull so therefore use a simple snaffle and stay away from poll pressure.
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