Bucks County Olympia Classes
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Post by Bucks County Olympia Classes on Aug 28, 2009 7:24:48 GMT
Not taking anything away from the eventual Champion who had the kind of day that comes once in a lifetime (and was a true sportsman, well done that girl!) but did anyone else think some of the judging decisions were unusual and the comments to competitors farcical?
Did anyone video any of the classes especially the smalls?
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Post by eastern on Aug 28, 2009 8:29:03 GMT
Not surprised when I heard who the Judge was!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by seventy8910 on Aug 28, 2009 8:52:19 GMT
I can think of three judges there yesterday who I wouldn't have bothered to get out of bed for!!!!!!
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Post by interesting on Aug 28, 2009 8:58:20 GMT
In all the Olympia classes the judging was certainly interesting. When a set show is asked for, why did competitors who didn't do the set show still win???
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Post by judging on Aug 28, 2009 9:38:43 GMT
Who was the judge?
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Post by fengirl on Aug 28, 2009 10:04:14 GMT
yes who was the judge
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Post by wondering on Aug 28, 2009 10:56:06 GMT
Mrs c Nelson was judging, what was so wrong with her?
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Post by seventy8910 on Aug 28, 2009 13:49:12 GMT
Mrs c Nelson was judging, what was so wrong with her? You may well ask
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Post by dancer on Aug 28, 2009 21:56:21 GMT
So what was the problem? - please try to explain without upsetting or insulting anyone taking part in the classes.
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Post by watcher on Aug 29, 2009 6:35:40 GMT
Ok
In one class only one pony actually did the asked for set show and was one of three I think with no wrong legs, napping, changing legs in gallop or throwing its head about and it was pulled last.
She told everyone she didn't care if their ponies changes leg several times during their gallop (several that did this were well placed), or bucked but she wanted to see a good gallop.
Put one pony way down the line just because it took too long to leave the line (?) It wasn't napping or anything just thing rider wasn't quite on the ball.
Told a D produced by a well known producer that also had another in the class that their cob was overtrimmed and she should let it be hairy (pony prepared EXACTLY the same as all the D's in the class!)
Apparently called a Black Fell a Highland (not 100% sure on this as didn't speak to the fells owner)
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Post by Confusing on Aug 29, 2009 7:20:45 GMT
I agree with the above, I couldnt follow most of the judging at Bucks. I believe if you set a show and a pony comes out and does it very well then credit should be given. likewise if a pony comes out and does it badly this should be taken into account.......... To take nothing from the winning pony at all as it really is not their fault .....but I believe the winning smalls wrong legged it. The winning B changed legs in the gallop and disunited, the winning d brokned and changed legs several times during the gallop......... If ponies did anything wrong they were not moved down the line. In fact in one class, as one pony was bronking in the gallop the judge turned to the rest of the line up and said ' I dont mind if they do that I just want to see you go for the gallop''....... There was very little change in the line ups after the ponies had done their shows, you stayed where you were pulled no rewards given for good shows and it seems conformation was not taken into account. it was all very strange.
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Post by twinkle toes on Aug 29, 2009 13:15:35 GMT
I have a feeling that the judge in question is a regular on this board, maybe she will comment.
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Post by wornthetshirt on Aug 30, 2009 22:03:42 GMT
I agree with the above, I couldnt follow most of the judging at Bucks. I believe if you set a show and a pony comes out and does it very well then credit should be given. likewise if a pony comes out and does it badly this should be taken into account.......... To take nothing from the winning pony at all as it really is not their fault .....but I believe the winning smalls wrong legged it. The winning B changed legs in the gallop and disunited, the winning d brokned and changed legs several times during the gallop......... If ponies did anything wrong they were not moved down the line. In fact in one class, as one pony was bronking in the gallop the judge turned to the rest of the line up and said ' I dont mind if they do that I just want to see you go for the gallop''....... There was very little change in the line ups after the ponies had done their shows, you stayed where you were pulled no rewards given for good shows and it seems conformation was not taken into account. it was all very strange. " I believe the expression from the Judge was - " I don't mind seeing natural exuberance".................. IMO, that is very different from ~ what you are describing as "BRONKING" Perhaps you should sit on a "Bronker" and then you might learn the difference?? And, possibly, learn to concentrate and study the performance throughout the whole class. Not just the little bit which applies to you, your, or your friend's animal?
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Post by beenthereseenit on Aug 31, 2009 7:32:59 GMT
I really don't know why you are all so astounded with this judge --whilst there is natural exhuberance, this is meant to be a ridden class, and as such should be judged accordingly always keeping to the fore breed type etc. This judge put a well known highland pony to win it's class at HOYS back in the early 90s on a very blatant wrong leg!! Whilst this pony is stunning they should still be able to do a very basic show correctly at a championship show. Have been told to take a chill pill over this incident but it still wrankles now and personally I would not really want to go under this lady unless my owners insisted. I would also ask if Bucks County could go back to their old ring configuration, as the way it is currently set out (i.e. always riding over the ridge and furrow rather than along) makes it difficult for most ponies to show themselves properly unless they are truely balanced.
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Post by foxylady nli on Aug 31, 2009 8:21:17 GMT
Sorry , but if you are talking about native ponies they should be able to cope with all ground conditions whether it is uphill or down dale and unless they are novices they should have no problem coping with this .
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Aug 31, 2009 8:56:10 GMT
surely ponies in an Olympia qualifier should be 'truly balanced'
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Post by unfazed on Aug 31, 2009 9:41:29 GMT
Not surprised this up for discussion .
Have often wondered about the judges judging .
But surely in a ridden class the pony should not only be true to type but SHOULD go exceptionally well balanced and mannerly .
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Post by Buckeroo on Aug 31, 2009 11:48:59 GMT
at least she went for something different ;D you have to remeber the southern crowd only allow a few of their own to win and always go into spite mode iof it doesn't happen ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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