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Post by Gallops on Oct 11, 2009 17:15:53 GMT
Having spent the last few days at a show and watching, and competing in a variety of classes I noticed how few horses actually manage to gallop properly in their shows. A few did great gallops, but they were in the minority. A few more got slightly extended canters. A vast majority just ended up with their horses putting their ears back, swishing their tales and threatening to buck and then the rest didn't even bother trying! One of the things I insist on in all of my horses is that they can produce a good, long low even gallop. None of this cavalry charge stuff with their heads in the sky. I was shocked in the Hunter class at the disaster that was supposed to be the gallop - not a single one of them managed anything remotely like it! The little kids on their little ponies had more Gung Ho than the adults! Whats happened to showing these days that everyone plays it safe and wont 'let go'
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 11, 2009 17:31:42 GMT
Think thats exactly it, alot are afraid to let go! Our children love nothing more than a d**n good blast and our ponies do it regular so they do not find it too exciting!
Even better now the fields nearby are all stubble and we are allowed on them!!! yeeehaaa!!!
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Post by Tandy on Oct 12, 2009 10:54:50 GMT
we were at a show a few weeks ago and my daughter and a woman who I was chating to on the side lines daughter were both in the class, my daughter went out to do her individual and I just happened to say to the mother stood beside me that she would go for it down the long side, the mothers chin just about hit the ground as her instructor had told her daughter NOT TO GALLOP, I pointed out the only class that I was aware off that you did not gallop in was the vetrans, think I was right in this wasnt I? My daughter won the class. Like Cassie 30s kids my daughter goes out into the stubble/grass parks and goes for a blast up them on a regular basis so our pony knows it OK to gallop and will come back when asked.
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 12, 2009 12:13:18 GMT
Veterans and first riddens, but would think thats about it?? The reason ponies explode is because they dont get to gallop, why not? Our kids love it, the ponies love it and even i now im getting old, love it. Besides they gotta stop somewhere!! lol
There is nothing i like to see more in a ring than a pony/horse who does a proper gallop!
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Post by ellieraga on Oct 12, 2009 12:26:58 GMT
Nothing better than letting kids have a gallop out on the stubble on there ponies and they love it
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Post by Tandy on Oct 12, 2009 12:33:53 GMT
Hadnt thought about first riddens, but I have no intentions of ever having a child that age ever again lol
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 12, 2009 13:16:29 GMT
PMSL, snap!
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Post by Tandy on Oct 12, 2009 13:27:36 GMT
yeh we will just leave that up to poniesrus
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 12, 2009 17:09:56 GMT
Lol, yeah sounds like a plan!!
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Post by nici on Oct 12, 2009 22:24:45 GMT
Our kids (I say "our", but only one is mine - they just go around in a gang) love a good gallop. My 5yo daughter only started to join in since pony club camp this summer, where she did her first ever gallop up the field on her 34" pony. Yes it was deliberate - the pony would never run off with her!
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 12, 2009 22:35:49 GMT
Nici thats brilliant, by the time your daughter is in the open classes she will be able to show them how its done!!
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Post by dun4u on Oct 14, 2009 22:24:57 GMT
Tandy asked: 'you did not gallop in was the vetrans, think I was right in this wasnt I? '
I don't think Show Hacks gallop, either, tho I'm sure they'd love too. I could be wrong, tho.
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Post by solitaire on Oct 23, 2009 19:40:39 GMT
I agree very few can or are brave enough to gallop these days - show hunters should always gallop but many don't - my M & M certainly knows how to gallop when asked.
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Post by apple123 on Oct 23, 2009 19:46:38 GMT
Hacks never gallop, you might see the odd extension but that's about it.
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Post by hollycane on Oct 24, 2009 12:53:37 GMT
I agree the Gallop is fast disappearing and I think competitors do not realise they get marked down for it as it is a required pace in all horse classes except for Hacks, not sure about Veterans but I have seen them do it. There are a lot of animals who cannot gallop because they are too fat and stuffy and a lot of warmbloods who cannot flatten and cover the ground because they are built to ping high off it. A lot of riders are patently terrified. The SHBGB have discussed this at length and I've not judged a single class this year where I have not discussed the lack of gallop with my co judge. Watch the pros and learn. It's such a shame that Guy Landau has retired as he was an absolute master. But galloping a horse is very different to that of a pony. I'd love to include it in a masterclass!!
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Post by apple123 on Oct 24, 2009 14:23:26 GMT
hollycane - we should really get you to Keysoe for a masterclass session!!!
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 24, 2009 18:01:35 GMT
Would love to attend such a masterclass!!
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Post by rubyshoes1 on Oct 24, 2009 18:13:21 GMT
my daughter went to a teach-in with Katie Carter in the summer, she had them galloping at the end of the lesson, my daughter didnt get it the first time she tried on her nov srt, however after Katie got her to repeat it about 6 times she was brill, she did however have blistered hands as she was'nt wearing gloves. Her horse loved it..
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Post by heather85 on Oct 24, 2009 18:32:26 GMT
i've got an exracer and believe it or not he wont gallop in shows! he wont even gallop in the fields when hes ridden, the more you ask him to gallop the slower he goes!
not tried doing it when hes with other horses tho.
dont know how i can get him to do it! he's used to galloping from racing, and hunting and eventing but now refuses to go faster then a canter!
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Post by cocoa on Oct 24, 2009 19:02:41 GMT
Ours all go like sh*t off a shovel. Think along with a decent walk its the most important thing but we wont go into lack of ponies being able to properly walk on ;D
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Post by kayjayem on Oct 24, 2009 19:03:26 GMT
I watched the prelim judging of heavyweights at HOYS and was amazed at the lack of gallop - even some of the prof's were a bit lacking
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Post by fmm on Oct 24, 2009 19:09:33 GMT
I watched the prelim judging of heavyweights at HOYS and was amazed at the lack of gallop - even some of the prof's were a bit lacking Our HW went right into the corner, extended right into the next corner and managed about 6 strides of gallop. It is a tiny arena when you are galloping an 18 hander! According to our "illegal" video, ours really did show a good gallop!
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Post by kayjayem on Oct 24, 2009 19:29:44 GMT
I'm not saying they all didn't but the ones who did stood out and it wasn't necessarily the producers - yours must have beenone of the outstanding ones - I hope you were suitable rewarded
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Post by fmm on Oct 24, 2009 19:44:14 GMT
I'm not saying they all didn't but the ones who did stood out and it wasn't necessarily the producers - yours must have beenone of the outstanding ones - I hope you were suitable rewarded Sadly not!
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Post by kayjayem on Oct 24, 2009 19:47:48 GMT
Well IMO it should have been - hunters are meant to gallop that should be the important pace - can't spend a day following hounds at trot/canter. If yours could at 18hh it wasn't impossible, some never attempted and it was very disappointing
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Post by lancs on Oct 25, 2009 8:40:56 GMT
Did anyone watch the int worker do its show for the supreme, 2 fab gallops, surely that is what a WHP is about, jumping and galloping. The coloureds all seemed to go for it as well, quite a lot of the other classes all seemed to have the hand brake on. At bsps champs in one of our classes the judge stated YOU WILL BE MARKED DOWN IF YOU DO NOT GALLOP asked for 2 gallops in show, and, yes all the good gallops where at the top.
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Post by sarahp on Oct 25, 2009 8:52:03 GMT
My D managed a fantastic gallop in the Caldene Arena at HOYS - even though only room for a few strides. All my show Ds have had great gallops, I'm with cocoa on walks too.
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Post by fmm on Oct 25, 2009 9:06:41 GMT
Well IMO it should have been - hunters are meant to gallop that should be the important pace - can't spend a day following hounds at trot/canter. If yours could at 18hh it wasn't impossible, some never attempted and it was very disappointing He went cubbing yesterday and is going again on Tuesday.
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Post by kickon on Oct 25, 2009 10:19:41 GMT
NOT GUILTY ;D I alway go for it. Stop horses from messing about if they have to put their back in to producing a good gallop. Very peeed that the other don't bother or are to frightened to get into another gear or is it that they have no brakes and their horses are not balanced enough to go round corners?? I exspect them to come right back to me in a collected canter. I get my hunters to canter down steep hills and keep their balance. Never need studs in the ring.
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Post by tabbyx on Oct 25, 2009 10:21:51 GMT
i think some people really need to teach their horses/ponies to gallop and once they've done it enough they don't run off. can't wait to teach my section A to gallop he'll be great. my sister's old section D had a great gallop and he used to go out up front with the ledbury hunt(with adrian the old master who she worked for) and he would go all day!
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