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Post by 127 on Oct 14, 2009 22:28:42 GMT
Were there any surprise HOYS results? Maybe not neccesserily people winning classes, but getting higher places than they would have imagined?
Any horses that got a higher place than expected? Or lower? And thoughts on this?
Any horses that caught people's eyes for the future? Especially hunters!
Thoughts appreciated
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Post by apple123 on Oct 15, 2009 8:10:37 GMT
I thought Galtee Park winning RH was fantastic!!! A young(ish) rider contending with the adults, most of whom are professionals is brilliant and I think a good inspiration for other up and coming riders moving onto the BSHA.
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Post by hopeteam on Oct 16, 2009 8:04:50 GMT
I was rather surprised that Julies or some of Julies werent very highly placed in the show ponies.
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Post by wondering 1 on Oct 16, 2009 9:02:26 GMT
what did you think would win 148 show pony then ??
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Post by tabbyx on Oct 18, 2009 19:25:56 GMT
Sycamore Candyman is a show hunter pony that qualified for HOYS and mainly competed as a show hunter pony this year. not knocking it i thought i gave a lovely show but i would've thought the con. judge would have knocked a few marks off for it being more shp type. I thought jess and morning light would have been alot higher than 7th and although i don't get on with her very well my mum&I had her down as first or second I don't think Jess or Mandy were very pleased with the result. congratulations to all involved with Fancy a fab result for you all.
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Post by bobbyg on Oct 18, 2009 22:25:05 GMT
im sorry but what are you looking at when you watch pavarotti? the pony is horrendous behind, it can only just walk, definatley something wrong with that pony, i wouldnt have it given me!!
no real surprizes in the sp or shp
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Post by joules on Oct 19, 2009 19:35:07 GMT
I was surprised after looking at the SP F/R,and SP L/R marks,that a pony that competed in both classes could lose 8 conf marks under the same judge, unbelievable.
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Post by bob365 on Oct 19, 2009 22:01:26 GMT
was suprised by the winner of the 143 shp. I know it has done well in the past but it has lost alot of condition. It had a weedy backend IMO and was v suprised that it got top confimation mark. I would describe it's show as cautious! But it also had the top ride mark.
But hey thats my opinion, and the judges have theres
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Post by cake on Oct 21, 2009 9:53:09 GMT
I was surprised after looking at the SP F/R,and SP L/R marks,that a pony that competed in both classes could lose 8 conf marks under the same judge, unbelievable. We competed in two SHP classes, one straight after the other, under Mr. Parker-Jones at a county show this year and lost 12 conf marks ( all in a matter of half an hour !!) So it can be done  |
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Post by tabbyx on Oct 22, 2009 18:56:07 GMT
tbh no offence to julie t or any members of her team but i don't like the way she has them ride with they're lower leg so far back it's unatuaral imo shannon has the best leg position of them all and actually looks like she can ride a pony not just sit on it. agree with bobbyg i didn't like it when i saw it on horsequest last year. im suprised jess wasn't higher in the 13.2 show ponies. but otherwise results were'nt very suprising
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Post by hopeteam on Oct 23, 2009 9:03:06 GMT
was suprised by the winner of the 143 shp. I know it has done well in the past but it has lost alot of condition. It had a weedy backend IMO and was v suprised that it got top confimation mark. I would describe it's show as cautious! But it also had the top ride mark. But hey thats my opinion, and the judges have theres I agree that you can have your opinion as can anyone, but the winner is a very worthy winner, he went well and deserved to win. He has wan RIHS aswell so this shows he is a good pony. IMO he hasn't lost condition at all, but as you say it is just personal opinion. |
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Post by ernie on Oct 23, 2009 16:35:33 GMT
I was surprised after looking at the SP F/R,and SP L/R marks,that a pony that competed in both classes could lose 8 conf marks under the same judge, unbelievable. I think you will find that the actual definition is conformation AND type and true to type lead reins are definitely not first riddens and vice versa so no, it is not unbelievable that a pony lost 8 marks from one class to another - in fact it should be seen more often. A pony is either one thing or another and judges do not take type into consideration often enough - often seeing shp winning sp classes!! |
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Post by hopeteam on Oct 23, 2009 17:12:07 GMT
I was surprised after looking at the SP F/R,and SP L/R marks,that a pony that competed in both classes could lose 8 conf marks under the same judge, unbelievable. I think you will find that the actual definition is conformation AND type and true to type lead reins are definitely not first riddens and vice versa so no, it is not unbelievable that a pony lost 8 marks from one class to another - in fact it should be seen more often. A pony is either one thing or another and judges do not take type into consideration often enough - often seeing shp winning sp classes!! I agree with your post Ernie, I mean if the judge had not differentiated her marks on the same pony in the two seperate classes, she would be accused of favoritism! You just can't win with some people! |
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Post by bob365 on Oct 23, 2009 21:40:14 GMT
Ponies can be both a LR and a FR. Look at Hightops Dancing Bee, stunning pony and fits well into both sections. Also this years LR & FR winner in th M&M.
With regard to the winner of the 143cm, i like my SHP's to gallop, and i know the ring is not huge at HOY's but others managed it.
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Post by ernie on Oct 24, 2009 21:25:32 GMT
Ponies can be both a LR and a FR. Look at Hightops Dancing Bee, stunning pony and fits well into both sections. Also this years LR & FR winner in th M&M. I do agree that some ponies do fit quite nicely into both sections with Jilton Prince Charming being another pony who sucesfully competed as a LR and a FR, but that does not mean that all ponies will be as versatile. But getting back to the point originally made, the judge obviously felt that the particular pony highlighted was more of a First Ridden stamp of pony awarding it 35 marks for conformation/type but then 27 marks in the LR. And despite the M&M pony winning both the LR and FR at HOYS - it too had different conformation/type marks!!! |
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Post by drenrowstud on Oct 30, 2009 19:53:36 GMT
i was surprised by some of the marking in the coloured classes , thought the hunter judges had a definite aversion to greys , agreed with the 128 and 138 showponies didnt stay to see the results of the 148 class but was glad to hear that the 138 pony went on to be champion pony overall as it was georgeous . i thought the first pull in in the m&m lead rein was a bit dubious it seemed a bit colour blind but the end result seamed fine and was very different from the initial pull was nice to see that the winner although not my type performed brilliantly and was nice to see that it stood nicely for its prizegiving not like in previous years .
it was also refreshing to watch the hunter championship and quite emotional when fin mcool retired , hes not actually a horse that id normally like but it bought a tear to my eye . and i can apreciate that hes a propper stamp of lightweight .
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Post by tabbyx on Oct 30, 2009 22:35:55 GMT
drenrow stud the 138cm show pony winner didn't take the supreme pony it won the show pony championship. the supreme pony was won by the show hunter pony champion Greylands Maid In The Dark
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Post by dazycutter on Oct 31, 2009 18:44:52 GMT
agreed with the 128 and 138 showponies didnt stay to see the results of the 148 class but was glad to hear that the 138 pony went on to be champion pony overall as it was georgeous . . Interesting view, 138 was a lovely pony I agree, but watching the class, it threw its head a few time, broke in its canter and didnt go as well as some of the others... |
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Post by thirteen too on Oct 31, 2009 19:11:07 GMT
It looks as if it swims in front.
Why did they put a tiny child on the moorgates four year old 14.2? The pony was scared by the atmosphere and it wasn't fair on the child. Surely it should've been saved for the future rather than messed up. The stewards should've let it go out.
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Post by drenrowstud on Oct 31, 2009 20:57:52 GMT
i stand corrected regards the supreme appologies to the winner . was going off what a mate told me had won hey ho , i still like the 138 pony and no pony is perfect , i still like it even it could do backstroke !!!
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Post by dazycutter on Oct 31, 2009 21:58:55 GMT
agree the 138 is a stunning pony, it just didnt do the best show and does paddle in front...not really sure if it deserved to win, and I am not biased as I didnt have a pony in that class...
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