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Post by shortfatanhairy on Jan 6, 2010 11:32:42 GMT
I have a home bred foal that i am about to register with the BSPA The stallion is a graded BSPA stallion that bleongs to me. i was unaware that i had to do a covering cert as i own both parents so am now sorting that out.
Can anyone tell me the benefit of doing a covering cert etc and registering in that way as it is far more costly and i could surely just register her in the normal way for half the cost?
Sorry if this seems a silly question but cant understand what benefit there are ??
PLEASE HELP!!! Thanks SFH!!!
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Post by tamrik on Jan 7, 2010 17:57:40 GMT
usually more moneyto the society!!!!! the connemara society do this as well.
sorry cant help further than that!!!!
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Post by vagelloronstud on Jan 11, 2010 18:18:04 GMT
Basically the society needs a covering cert in order to verify the parents and their breeding on the foals passport otherwise the foal will have unverified breeding and with some societies they wont even name the parents on the passport if no covering cert is present. Also if the foal is by a graded sire and/or dam they are eligible for higher studbook registration. Hope this helps!
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Post by tessy on Jan 11, 2010 18:58:45 GMT
Vagelloron has got it in one. From your point of view, being the stallion owner, if the foal goes on to do well in the the ring, its also proof of the stallions stock doing well which has got to be a plus.
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Post by sarahp on Jan 11, 2010 19:19:33 GMT
I only know about the WPCS, and of course agree with all the points about the value of having the breeding verified, but if you own both parents what does a covering certificate add? We do of course have to fill in a form to register a foal and sign that the parentage is correct in a specific space for those owning both parents, and they do check the ownership but here would be no point that I can see in filling out a covering certificate for your own mare and stallion as well as signing the form.
Obviously other societies have other ways of doing things!
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Post by lilo on Jan 11, 2010 20:14:55 GMT
Hi if mare is not registered with the society you may sometimes be asked for DNA if documents not filled in by a vet. However if you own the Stallion your documentation signed for passporting is all the evidence you should need as a covering cert is no more than a piece of paper with your signature on it. I myself tried to register a foal with the Sport Horse Bods and ended up with only a basic passport as they would not recognise the covering cert of the Trekhener I used even though its a Graded Stallion. It not graded with them. I also had to submit the mares passport to prove her breeding but as the foal was not on the mare at the time of passporting it was all a bit of a farse really. Shall stick to NPS and WPCS from now on!
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Post by shortfatanhairy on Jan 16, 2010 23:33:23 GMT
Thanks for all the help! Papers now completed and sent off! Hopefully will get passport thru and not papers back!!!!! Nightmare!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 11:05:58 GMT
I am a Dartmoor breeder- and if we own both parents then there is a bit on the foal reg application that we have to fill in- not a separate covering certificate.
Hope all goes well.
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Post by shortfatanhairy on Jan 17, 2010 19:08:35 GMT
That was what I was expecting cayberry and was totally thrown by 3 page covering cert, lots of repeating my own details and then a passport form too ! Thanks for your help
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Post by Guestless on Jan 25, 2010 13:26:57 GMT
That was what I was expecting cayberry and was totally thrown by 3 page covering cert, 3 pages?! Must be a lot of information - do they want details of position, etc!  Fell Pony Society covering cert is the equivalent of third of a page and just has names and registration numbers of both parties, along with dates.....not much more than that required I would have thought. |
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