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Post by nightwish on Mar 3, 2010 20:07:24 GMT
hello does anyone have advice on feeding a TBxID mare, shes come back into slow work after an liligement injury (cant spell lol) and i need advice on what to feed her as shes quite sharp most of the time, and she needs help with her topline and her bum building up, shes been doing 4 weeks on lunging in the HO system (i found it on horse hero) and now going to start long reining, most people will say hack out but its not safe to hack out where i am any advice on feed or exercise plan will be useful and i will be very thankful thank you
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Post by handcanter on Mar 4, 2010 13:35:36 GMT
Nightwish, be careful with all that lunging in something that ties your mare up as even though they can be miracle workers a lot of horses will avoid them if they are not working properly. I would never use them for more than 5-10mins per time with a rest in between each time you change rein. If you have a school, lots of upwards and downwards transitions not banging around for ages in sitting trot. In fact forget sitting trot. Try using only walk, trot and halt and counting 20 strides/seconds of each. Focus on accuracy and softness and you should find the quarters coming underneath. If the front end is soft this will lift the shoulders and build up the front end.
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Post by sageandonion on Mar 4, 2010 14:02:37 GMT
I am not familiar with the lunging programme you refer to, but 'ordinary' lunging for extended periods would not be helpful for a ligament problem. If you do work on the lunge, use the whole school and avoid circles and canter work. Personally I would have thought the long reining should have preceeded the lunging, but the best person to advise on a correct ridden/inhand programme will be the vet who treated your horse.
With regard to feeding, stick to fibre based and balancers. If your horse likes the dengie products you can choose one depending on her bodily condition though with her problem you would be better having her on the slimmer side if you can, particularly as the grass will be coming though very soon.
Fibre based feeds fed in the correct ratio will supply all the necessary protein you need to build muscle. Muscle/topline comes from work not food.
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Post by sarahp on Mar 4, 2010 15:22:15 GMT
Agree with all that - only to add that if she does need more calories in her diet, being a big horse and not a native pony, use oil or an oil-based product rather than anything with cereal in it as that can fizz her up. Dengie do an oiled alfalfa which is very good for this.
Must admit I wouldn't lunge anything coming in to work from a ligament injury either, walking in straight lines is the old-fashioned way as it puts less strain on ligaments than turning on the lunge, but your vet or physio would give you proper guidance. I speak as someone who spent hours and hours walking a D of mine IH up and down the drive (road too dangerous) after stifle op.
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Post by nightwish on Mar 5, 2010 21:09:49 GMT
thanks for the advice i dont do any longer than 10 mins with the HO and she does more walking than trot not allowed to canter in it, so ive heard, im not riding her yet as shes not ready my back lady coming to her soon and then getting my saddler out if given the go ahead by my back lady. i have already done the walking up and down and my vet said start long reining and trotting down the long sides with her, but she went back to square one, she had 6 months off to rest etc.... then brought back to work fingers crossed she is sound when i start long reining her, ive had no problems on the lunge, as before she was a broncing bucking mare, shes quite the oppsite now, im really pleased with her. thanks for the comments
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Post by kerryo on Mar 6, 2010 17:45:33 GMT
Long reining is brill for both horse and rider, i've been doing a lot to help break my TB/Sec D and he has responded brilliant to it. It helps with their muscles and is far better than lunging them. We are feeding him on Top Sec. The best thing i cant suggest is email a few feed places and see what advice they give, that's what i did and he is filling out nicely and having all the right things he needs. Hope this helps.
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Post by horseyll81 on Mar 8, 2010 11:57:53 GMT
I have started using Allen and Pages calm and condition and the results have been very promising on the 3 that have tried it with. All of them had a noticable calmer attitude within a week and the 2 that have been on it slightly longer (about 2 months now) have a wonderful shiny coat and the topline isn't looking too bad either!! I'm reallly impressed with it.
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Post by Jessica on Mar 14, 2010 15:36:31 GMT
We used Baileys no.4 (top line conditioning cubes) on a big horse that needed more condition, but not any more fizz! worked well for him
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Post by queenjo on Mar 14, 2010 15:47:18 GMT
ive used top spec comprahensive on, tb ,youngsters , and wpb , for years with happy hoof chop,it has always been great if used correctly, i no its expensive but it actually works oput cheaper if you get the larger bucket on use oly small amount of happy hoof.
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Post by nightwish on Mar 14, 2010 16:29:42 GMT
thanks so much you all have been a great help, ive tried calm and condition , it just made her fat. might try the top spec as nearly everyone i know uses it. does anyone know is it worth its price ? thanks
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Post by folk opera! on Mar 24, 2010 9:18:14 GMT
i think top spec works wonders! i used calm and conditioning and my youngster never agreed with it and he was hyoer of it to
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Post by lexy on Mar 24, 2010 14:20:29 GMT
My TBxID horse is on Top Spec comprehensive (3 mugs per day) and Alfa Oil (2 scoops per day). Thats it (and haylage). And he looks really well, fantastic shine on his coat etc. When I was getting him in show condition last year I added Baileys outshine to add more calories to his diet.
I have also used Baileys no 4 conditioning cubes before too for welsh cobs, and these are good too and dont fizz them up.
Good luck with your horse.
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