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Post by madrider on Mar 11, 2010 13:06:54 GMT
they are not dressage legal, because of the gag action
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Post by network on Mar 11, 2010 13:08:19 GMT
Nope not dressage legal
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Post by Jenna on Mar 11, 2010 13:08:50 GMT
thanks, best dig the snaffle out,
Also can Dan carry a small whip? iv read the rules an dont really understand
one more question would she be better wearing her navy or tweed jacket
modified to add she is 12 and doing the intro test - this is her first ever dressage test
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Post by holiday on Mar 11, 2010 13:36:09 GMT
Wilkies not allowed, but she can ride with a whip cant remember the exact length without checking but anything up to a normal length schooling whip.
She can wear either jacket but navy looks nice and is used more in the dressage arena than tweed.
Hope everything goes well for her tell her just to enjoy it and if a movement goes wrong dont worry try even harder for the next!!!
A huge good luck!!
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Post by sarah00000 on Mar 11, 2010 13:48:22 GMT
Definately no wilkie - but yes Canary jods are absolutely fine. My boys always wore canary as they were showing as welll and I couldnt afford 2 sets each!
As long as she looks smart and her tack/whip is dressage legal, they will love her! Have fun!
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Post by sarah00000 on Mar 11, 2010 15:08:41 GMT
I am sure she will look fab! Post us a piccy of the pair of them on the day! Best of luck and enjoy it! xx
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Post by mandmfan on Mar 11, 2010 15:27:00 GMT
I don't understand this - if wilkies have a gag action why are they classed as snaffles and allowed in novice/first ridden/lead rein classes?
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Post by holiday on Mar 11, 2010 15:32:29 GMT
How exciting, stock or tie whichever you feel looks nicest on her. Just smart and no bling!!! Cant wait to see the photo if she decided she liked it I would get her a pair of white jods as they look really smart with the dressage (and of course a white square numnah!!!) Another thought do not put boots on the pony for the test, he can warm up in them but is not allowed in the arena with them on.
Check to see if you need a bridle number if they run under BD rules she will have to have one on (these can be bought from most tack shops for about £1 and the elastic wraps round the throat lash a million times!!!!)
She MUST wear gloves or she will be eliminated not sure now if they have to be white or cream (light coloured so the hands are visable to the judge) I havent rejoined yet this year to see what the new rules are but I had heard that was a new ruling whether true or not someone else may know. Unaffiliated tend to be a little easier in the rules.
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Post by sarahp on Mar 11, 2010 15:38:41 GMT
Good question mdmfan! But of course it's up to the showing societies to make up their own rules as they like.
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Post by sageandonion on Mar 11, 2010 16:16:17 GMT
Don't get me started about wilkies!
I do hope you put up a picture of your little girl at her dressage. Hope she enjoys.
By the way, I love a bit of discrete bling when doing dressage and have a friend that is positively bling bling and she looks great.
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Post by apple123 on Mar 11, 2010 18:36:55 GMT
There is no whip length restriction now, this was removed as they couldn't how it would be measured. You shouldn't salute with your stick in your hand either, it needs to be a 'free' hand...I did this in the first test I did a long time ago and got marked down for it, oops! And yes the gloves have to be a light colour now.
Hope you have a lovely time!!! xx
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Post by holiday on Mar 11, 2010 19:13:03 GMT
Don't get me started about wilkies! I do hope you put up a picture of your little girl at her dressage. Hope she enjoys. By the way, I love a bit of discrete bling when doing dressage and have a friend that is positively bling bling and she looks great. Totally agree on the Wilkie front but hey who am I to disagree with the societies lol!!! Must admit I like a bit of bling too!!!! Really am looking forward to photos, if I miss the post can you PM me with it!!!!
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Post by lexy on Mar 12, 2010 20:52:34 GMT
You definitely wont need a bridle number for unaffiliated dressage, so dont worry about that. That is only needed for BD.
And dont forget you can usually pick up cheap riding clothes on eBay if you do decide to get white johdpurs. Personally I use beige for both showing and dressage, just not got into white.
Lexy
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Post by holiday on Mar 13, 2010 11:35:46 GMT
She (they!!) looks gorgeous!!!!!!!! Well done with the result I hope she enjoyed it!!!!
Look forward to hearing about loads more results!!!!!!
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Post by sarah00000 on Mar 13, 2010 12:29:36 GMT
I don't understand this - if wilkies have a gag action why are they classed as snaffles and allowed in novice/first ridden/lead rein classes? What you say makes perfect sense, but Showing rules are nothing like dressage rules, so you just have to abide by the rules of whichever dicipline you are competing under. The closest thing to a wilkie, is a hanging snaffle, which is dressage legal.
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Post by sarah00000 on Mar 13, 2010 12:31:51 GMT
She looks fab and just right for dressage too. Well done for the score. My juniors all start on scores in the low 50s and then work they way up over the months to averaging on 63 to 65%.
Glad you all enjoyed it.
PS, gloves can be any colour now.
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Post by hazel on Mar 13, 2010 12:35:32 GMT
Brilliant well done, my daughter used to wear her navy jacket with canary jods and a stock. My son wore his tweed jacket and beige jods and a tie.
Your jockey looks stunning and of course so does her pony.
I used to call the tests for my two, except in Regionals & Champs - not allowed, and I can remember Anthony starting off and basically was going like a "bat out of hell" so I s...l....o.....w....e.....d my instructions down! The brakes suddenly went on and he slowed up!!!!! Brings back memories of comments on the sheet such as "a little inattentive today" horse decided didn't like the judge in her plastic box and wouldn't go down that end of the arena so all the test was done between BE and A!
Great fun, enjoy and look forward to hearing more news.
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Post by hazel on Mar 13, 2010 12:46:22 GMT
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Post by lexy on Mar 13, 2010 16:21:34 GMT
For Gloves, from the BD Rulebook:
45. Gloves Must be worn and must be a light colour.
I think this is also true for Riding Club rules, as I got pulled up for wearing dark gloves early on last year (although on checking it was being run unde 2008 rules, so was OK. But 2009 rules def were for light colour).
Lexy
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Post by lexy on Mar 13, 2010 16:59:39 GMT
She does look very smart, and very respectable first ever score For circles, try putting down jump blocks or cones at the four points of circle and this will help her to practice and get a feel for where to ride to. So one at C (or A), one at X and one on the track half-way between. And she can then practice making sure she "touches" each one. Also might help drawing it on a bit of paper at home with the markers drawn on in the right place and then stick up on board in bedroom or something! So she can see and learn where she needs to hit the track each side. The quarter marker is 6m from the end, so need to hit the track nearer the quarter marker than the centre marker. Lexy
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Post by sageandonion on Mar 13, 2010 18:55:29 GMT
Well done to you both, hope she enjoyed and will do some more. Your sister looks gorgeous, but then she is the type that would look stunning in a sack!
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Post by sarahp on Mar 14, 2010 10:15:04 GMT
Riding the figures correctly in a test won't gain you any extra marks - but doing them incorrectly will lose you some! So it does pay to learn how to do them right, or at least know what you are aiming for as ponies don't always play ball! I did a test on lexy's 13.2 once and he refused to halt on the centre line as was then required. I was determined he was going to halt somewhere, and we did a sort of leg yield - his idea not mine - and ended up stationary on the quarter line instead! The judge (who knew me, lexy and the pony well from PC) and I were both in stitches!
Your daughter looks very smart, first test now done so onwards and upwards from here!
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Post by sarahp on Mar 14, 2010 22:30:49 GMT
So sorry, if I'd remembered all the way back up the thread I'd have known that!
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Post by lexy on Mar 20, 2010 21:12:55 GMT
Dont worry its not just kids who need practice riding figures for dressage tests .... my dressage trainer still has me practising and making sure I know where I am meant to be hitting the track for various figures now If you get her into the idea of thinking about it and practicing now for the 20m circles, then it will be natural to do the same for the more tricky ones like 15m circles, half circle and back to track, etc. And personally I know I find it a lot easier once actually ridden and practiced than just in theory. Lexy
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Post by baymare on Apr 7, 2010 23:42:02 GMT
Hi Jenna - well done! It might help her ride better shaped circles if she thinks about them as being the natural effect of bending the horse to a lesser or greater degree. So rather than think "I need to ride from here to here to here" if she thinks about practising increasing or decreasing the bend and riding the resulting circles they should become a better shape - I often write for dressage judges (which is a brilliant education) and from teh car you see a lot of circles that start of good and then go what can only be described as "a bit pointy"!
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Post by sarah00000 on Apr 11, 2010 15:50:50 GMT
Well done - keep it up xx
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Post by frankie1 on Apr 11, 2010 16:12:56 GMT
That's super reading this had made me think maybe I should get back into dressage:)
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