Weatherbys and NPS licensing

[divadoo]

Evening all,
I am hoping you can offer me some of your experiences on stallion licensing with Weatherbys and also the NPS.
What exactly are they looking for ie. is it the same for both or slightly different criteria?
I know the NPS site states ‘satisfactory’ conformation, surely the conformation of any stallion should be spot on?
Does the vet tell you if they have passed there and then?
Is he required to be lunged etc or just trotted up?
Does anyone know the statistics for the numbers who fail/pass?

The reasons for my questions is that I have a colt who I would like to put forward, he is a 2 year old and has 1 conformational fault but he came to me very unbalanced and hence the farrier is slowly correcting that at each visit. I would like to use him on a few select mares this year hence obviously wanting to get the license done now. I have to try and gauge if he will pass, and if so, would he for both societies as it is cheaper for the vet to complete both sets of paperwork from the one visit/inspection.

Any advice would be very gratefully received, thanks.

[holiday]

He would have to go through a vetting, to include, eyes, lungs, heart, genital organs he would need to be lunged and have a basic conformation assessment. I personally would question a conformation fault to whether it could be heritary. Not sure on either of these societies but that is what you need to do for the Welsh and im sure they will both be similar. Also would you need both sets of paperwork?

[ffynnoncadno]

Licencing with weatherby's for a thoroughbred requires the vet filling a form out taking a sample of blood and hair.Pay the fee and job done....NPS on a thoroughbred is the vet coming out filling another form and more dna and yet again job done......even passed if it's the wonkiest donkey ever.
Things start to get more serious when you want a performance horse,but there again I've had one wonkey donkey passed on the merits of his foals.The parents conformation are not the end all and be all as some perfect parents produce a load of rubbish.
Proof is in the pudding ;D

[sarahp]

I think the main thing for the WPCS is for the vet to exclude genetic defects rather than assess conformation, don't know anything about Weatherbys or NPS stallion licensing.

[divadoo]

Thank you for the replies.

Both his sire and dam have proved themselves on the track and he seems to be the only one of their offspring who is poss a 'dud' if anything. He didnt have the best start in life due to the breeders personal circumstances and i honestly think this has been the cause. The farrier really thinks a lof of the issue can be resolved.

It is a little concerning that 'wonkey donkies' can pass, however having seen some of the adverts for stallions online, it should not suprise me.
I would ideally like both sets of paperwork so in the future, people could have a choice of which they would want issuing.

his long term plans would depend on his 1st crop of foals, if they were not of a good enough quality, then he would have the chop!

[kayjayem]

Wouldn't you be able to licence him with Weatherbys then overstamp him with NPS?

[ffynnoncadno]

Initially it has to be weatherby's Reg and licence for NPS to have him as a licenced stallion.
I always try before I licence to see if it's worth carrying on with the expense of licencing and running a stallion on.The only thing I would say is to use mare's you can trust and have seen progeny from before to get an idea if he's throwing any faults.