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Post by brookhouse on Apr 4, 2010 20:10:58 GMT
any ideas on how to improve the canter, I have a baby that has just been backed and she can't canter on a bend she either dissunites or both back legs go to gether, I have never seen any think like this before. I have not had her back checked yet, thats next week she has had two foals she is only 5 years old other than that she is perfect so please help with any sugestions
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robyn
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Post by robyn on Apr 4, 2010 23:22:02 GMT
She is still very young, and having had two foals presumably hasn't been ridden for a long time?
I wouldn't be pushing anything with her. Start asking for canters on the straight on hacks until she learns to carry herself and a rider. Does she disunite on the lunge? My gelding used to disunite even as a 9 year old, but after having his back checked and doing build-up work he now very rarely does (I don't remember the last time he did).
Take your time with her, teach her how to carry you and herself in canter before asking more from her as you could just make things worse.
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kayjayem
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Post by kayjayem on Apr 5, 2010 21:54:39 GMT
I would say wait until she's had her back checked - if she's had a couple of foals it can put a strain on the back ligaments and therefore a bit of physio may sort it out.
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Post by bumblebeexx on Apr 12, 2010 18:41:12 GMT
My mare was the same but has not had a foal she is now 6 and seems to of grown out of it she was worse when tense but now she has learned to relax and is in better balance she dosent tend to do it. Try not to do tight circles to make it easier to stay balanced and dont do too much in canter do more transitions 3 good strides of canter is better than 10 of good and bad. Build up from that
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Post by LMSmith on Apr 14, 2010 11:37:21 GMT
I ride my friends horse and she jumps from being correct with her back legs to being disunited. Iv never seen another horse do it but she swaps with every stride she takes. She tends to only do it when she is not going forwards, try pushing your mare on a little and see if that helps. She may just be finding out how to canter correctly and will probably grow out of it given time.
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Post by missmuffett on Apr 15, 2010 19:47:11 GMT
after back is checked i would just keep cantering to straight lines on hacks etc and just let her go forward into it and find her feet.after this when you start schooling try and do counter canter this worked for one of ours and he stopped doing it after a few gos!
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Post by lulah on Apr 23, 2010 19:52:20 GMT
have you tried lunging her in a feild to see if she does it ? my pony sometimes disutinted in the school on lunge and ridden. i did alot of work on grass with him and he found it easier now he doesnt disunite in the school atall.
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Post by gadabout on Apr 23, 2010 20:18:45 GMT
I have had the same thing with my little chap, he is 5. One instructress said it was habit and smacked him every time he did it. I told her to get off!!! It was his muscles behind the saddle, and he needs to be worked on long low line more and encouraged to stretch his back muscles far more than normal. He is doing well. No problems and collects a treat.
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Post by sarah00000 on Apr 24, 2010 5:19:58 GMT
My mare couldnt canter when I bought her. She went like a camel. Disunited, scrambling around, very unbalanced. She couldnt canter on the lunge either, if anything she was worse!
She had her back manipulated, not once but several times over the course of 6 months. She also had physio H WAVES, to relieve the tension in her back.
I did lots of cantering up hills, out on hacks and then side by side with other horses, to encourage her to keep going.
She now has an H WAVE about every 2 months just to keep her back totally free.
Her canter is good now. She can now canter - shoulder in - counter canter and also canter a 10 m circle at ever marker around the school.
It has taken 8 months and lots of patience and physio/attention to her spine. Well worth it though xx
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Post by brooksbydressage on Apr 25, 2010 20:25:23 GMT
echo some of the others here, if she's had two foals, she's not been backed long? Sounds like a strength issue, remember they are only as strong as they are supple. Make life as easy as possible, ask for canter on corners, canter few straight line forward steps, dont sustain canter too long etc. And back check sounds good, her muscles wont be as secure from popping babies out! :lol:
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Post by brookhouse on May 1, 2010 20:01:07 GMT
hi seems I am not the only one, had her working in lots of trot and bends seems to be helping back is all done . we now give her a tap with the whip on the outside and this seems to be working well. I have never seen this before as she strides off on the correct canter lead every time but its really stange to watch on the grond. can't lunge her she is worse . she can now do half a school before she thinks about it with my son so thanks very happy
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Post by joules on May 2, 2010 16:18:48 GMT
We have just had our young mare checked because of this problem,we have noticed this was more prominent on wet cold days.We are waiting for result of her blood test,should have them Tuesday.The vet noticed the muscles on her rump are very tight will let you know if this is contributing to her dissuniting.Forgot to mention we have had her back checked numerous times with no improvement.
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Post by ponymum on May 2, 2010 17:44:38 GMT
I had a youngster that used to disunite , it wasnt her back, but her hamstring, she had to have it manipulated several times and have some lifts /wedges on her shoes to help strengthen . she went on to be a very succesful rh / worker - so perservere and you will get to the bottom of it x
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sar1
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Post by sar1 on May 2, 2010 18:30:35 GMT
Having similar problems as mentioned in this thread...can anyone recommend a good 'back' person who would travel to Lambourn area?
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Post by magsbypickles on May 15, 2010 13:08:38 GMT
Having similar problems as mentioned in this thread...can anyone recommend a good 'back' person who would travel to Lambourn area? Try contacting Intelligent Horsemanship, they will reccomend someone local.
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nqp
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Post by nqp on Jun 5, 2010 13:58:58 GMT
I've had this problem with most my youngsters particularly after fences and they've all just grown out of it. I think its due to being young an having lack of balance which can only get better.
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