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Post by supercob1 on Apr 14, 2010 8:50:02 GMT
I have been planning on sening my mare to be put in foal since about August last year so have been monitoring her seasons quite closely and she was due in season yesterday. I have been speaking quite closely with my vet regarding covering her as she is a maiden mare. The vet reccommended injecting her on Friday (4days before she was due in season anyway) in order to bring her season on stronger. She arrived at the stallion on Sunday and has yet to show any signs at all of coming in to season! What would you do now?  ? |
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Post by Guestless on Apr 14, 2010 8:53:28 GMT
Did they base when she was due to come in season on a previous scan? I am rubbish with the scientific terms, but basically if the mare is not nearly in season, then being PGd will have no effect - there needs to be a cell ready to ovulate and the PG will speed this up, but being a day or 2 too early will (I think) mean it didn't do anything....I usually find the injections can be a hit or a miss anyway (although my vet got it absolutely spot on for my mare last year after regular scans to make sure).
ETA - has the stud been teasing her? I had a mare who bizarrely showed no signs whatsoever until they tried her with the stallion who had previously covered her - she's obviously monogomous!
I would probably get her scanned at stud to see where she is in her cycle - she may just be biding her time and you could bring her home and then miss the opportunity by a day or so (depending on how far away stud is).
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Post by supercob1 on Apr 14, 2010 9:04:03 GMT
Yes she has been teased twice a day. Unfortunatly as the stallion owners are going away friday she has to come back home but i think i will take her down to our vets and get her checked and scanned!
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Post by Guestless on Apr 14, 2010 9:19:23 GMT
At least it's still early enough in the year to get her back there again. They don't usually ovulate until towards the end of the their season so maybe the timing has just been out this time round.
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Post by kayjayem on Apr 14, 2010 19:50:07 GMT
Sometimes, especially with maidens, they don't show in season if they have recently been moved to a strange environment and being tried with the stallion. they can become a bit tense and stressed. Is there no way she could be left at the stud for 3 weeks to settle and get used to the surroundings and the stallion?
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Post by holiday on Apr 15, 2010 7:17:04 GMT
I would also agree with leaving her to settle, we Pg'd our mare Saturday and she is to inseminated today (Thursday) to give you a time span.
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Post by supercob1 on Apr 15, 2010 8:55:00 GMT
Unfortunatly she cannot stay for that long as the stallion owners are away alot over the next few weeks. She was pg'd friday and is still not showing anything  |
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Post by holiday on Apr 26, 2010 7:34:47 GMT
Just wondered how you had got on with your girl, I assumed you either got her covered or scanned? Good luck with her!!
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Post by sarah00000 on Apr 26, 2010 9:13:57 GMT
supercob, I had terrible trouble with my maiden mare, cos every time I took her to stud, fully in season, she switched straight off again!
In the end, she was bought to the stud, on the fertile day and covered in-hand and taken straight home. She conceived first time with just one covering. This was after 3 months of trying to use AI methods.
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Post by supercob1 on Apr 26, 2010 9:37:38 GMT
Well I have now had her scanned and everything seems ok. But seem to be having troubles with the stallion owners being away a lot. Think AI might be a better option!!!
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Post by sarah00000 on Apr 26, 2010 9:41:21 GMT
Yes, I agree, if the stallion owners are not being helpful, you should look around. There are SO MANY SCRUMMY stallions, that can send you chilled semen by courier overnight, it might suit your mare better, as she wouldnt keep having to move home.
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Post by dancha on Apr 26, 2010 14:42:40 GMT
I had this problem with a mare of mine, although not a maiden mare she wouldnt show in season at all!!! in the end i had the vet come out and scan her!! she was in season that day!! the day after i got the stallion out and tried to cover her, she wouldnt show to him but she stood, in the end he covered her, and the same process the day after, still wouldnt show to him!! anyone have any ideas about this??
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Post by sarahp on Apr 26, 2010 16:08:13 GMT
I once had two mares to cover with my stallion - maiden mare showing nothing but he was keen, and older mare who was apparently raging in season but he wasn't bothered about that one at all. When we took them out to cover (or not, as the case may be!), the maiden stood like a rock and was covered but the older one wasn't having it at all. Moral - an experienced stallion can save you vet visits!
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Post by langley on Apr 26, 2010 19:21:25 GMT
I once had two mares to cover with my stallion - maiden mare showing nothing but he was keen, and older mare who was apparently raging in season but he wasn't bothered about that one at all. When we took them out to cover (or not, as the case may be!), the maiden stood like a rock and was covered but the older one wasn't having it at all. Moral - an experienced stallion can save you vet visits! Completely agree with you  . We often listen to our boys at the trying boards, they do tend to know  We had a visiting mare one year and the only thing she did when she was in season was slightly lift her tail, she was quiet all the time at the trying boards, never kicked but the stallion was never interested he'd just turn away after unsuccessful teasing . Then one day he changed his mind , mare had tail up a little bit so this was her in season  Supercob, hope you get sorted, it must be disappointing having chosen a stallion you wanted to use but to then find that it is difficult to get your mare covered |
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Post by holiday on Apr 26, 2010 20:30:25 GMT
I also think the boys do know best, a few times our stallion has said no shes not right and when the mare scanned again she has gone backwards rather than forwards in her season.
It is a nightmare when stallions are not available, I now do ask the question on competing and availability before committing to them as it costs to set up the mares, however I have also on a couple of occasions had semen coming from Germany not turn up due to plane problems, and at that on the same year for the same mare, absolutely frustrating, especially then to learn the stallion station shuts and no more until the next year having not even got the mare inseminated!!!!!!!
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Post by vjc on Apr 27, 2010 19:59:45 GMT
Yep i agree, a good stallion will tell you when a mare is right even if she shows no obvious signs of oestrus! maidens need a lot of patience as their first experience with a stallion is so important for future breedings, As for injecting i am a great believer in only using them when needed ie: when nature fails! My maidens are always given the chance to run next too, or be stabled by their future husbands so they can settle and get to know the stallion before the event takes place. Not all mares show, i had an experienced brood mare who never squatted or winked at the stallion but just became doughy eyed and relaxed in his presence! good luck i hope you will soon have a foal to look forward too. |
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Post by Laura on Apr 28, 2010 11:46:14 GMT
we are really lucky as we have a diamond of a stallion, he knows exactly when a mares in season even if showing no obvious signs, he covers in hand and even turns out with the mares to cover. He's exceptional with maiden mares and has got many difficult mares in foal. He's worth his weight in gold to us, he saves us time and money ;D
It will be a very hard job to replace him when the time comes.
A good stallion and an organised, co-operative yard will save you a lot of time and hassle so choose carefully.
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Post by supercob1 on May 14, 2010 10:58:00 GMT
Great News...... with the help of our amazing vet, Annie has been down to the stallion and been covered!!!! So fingers crossed all has gone to plan
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Post by vjc on May 14, 2010 14:50:51 GMT
wooooo!!! great news!!! fingers crossed for you!!! |
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Post by squidgy on May 14, 2010 21:19:19 GMT
Hi im new and was just reading your thread great news for getting her covered, In my experience if you inject a mare a few days before she is due to come into season then all it does is delay the season because there is no CL for the hormone to work with. We normally inject 5 day after the season then tease 3-5 days later.
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. We often listen to our boys at the trying boards, they do tend to know 
We had a visiting mare one year and the only thing she did when she was in season was slightly lift her tail, she was quiet all the time at the trying boards, never kicked but the stallion was never interested he'd just turn away after unsuccessful teasing 
