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Post by stella65 on Jun 4, 2010 21:12:48 GMT
MONGREL !!!!!
here you go again people think that most dogs in rescue/ pounds are mongrels they are NOT most of them are fisrt crosses and there are plenty of pure breds too so if you wanted a labradoodle thats fine im not going to stop any chosing what dog they want but... why not go to rescue and give one a home and yes there are some in rescue many more than you would think ! and if you give the old oh dont know what they temp is like rubbish you visit the dog on more than one occassion to make sure its the dogs for you plus the rescue would of done there own assesments plus you get a youngster if thats what you wanted - in rescue i have 1 pure bred labrador and 2 first crosses oh and 1 jrt - no good rescue would put a dog that has issues into a home with out being certain the people knew what they are taken on and that the adopters have experience with dealing with any issue and deffinately not into a home with children also you can have 2 different breeds crossed and they can grow bigger than expected end up with a temp out of character of either breed so its not all black and white
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Post by kayjayem on Jun 4, 2010 21:21:56 GMT
All breeds have been developed over the centuries. They all descended from the same wild dogs originally and selective breeding eventually established various breeds, Jack Russell Terriers being a case in point that have only very recently(comparitively speaking) been recognised as a breed. Selective cross breeding from health tested, proven parents is in effect evolution. As lifestyles and requirements change cross breds can fill a requirement and therefore it is really evolution of breeding. If there wasn't a market for them it wouldn't be feasible and wouldn't happen but there is and that's all there is to it. It is the overbreeding of such breeds as Staffies which should cause more concern. This is a very old breed and can make wonderfull pets but do need a lot of owner input in their upbringing which does not always happen. You only have to look at the various rehoming websites to see which breeds are more likely to not fit in a nd fall on hard times.
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Post by Milliesmum on Jun 4, 2010 21:29:14 GMT
Well maybe I'm one of the lucky ones, but Millie looks and acts exactly the way I expected her to! Perhaps I touched a raw nerve, but what I'm trying to say is people lump all cross breeds together, and they are not all the same. Well done to those who can give a rescue dog a good home, but I knew what I wanted and a rescue dog wasn't it, for a start I wanted a specific cross and I wanted a puppy to grow up with my children and for each to grow up respecting the other.
I'm so happy with my little dog, wouldn't swap her for the world, would recommend the C0ckerpoo to anyone and if I had the space I'd have another tomorrow. If people disagree, that's fine, but I've been called an idiot on here for my personal choice of dog, well that's as maybe but I'd be an idiot again tomorrow quite happily!
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Post by stella65 on Jun 5, 2010 10:33:19 GMT
I never called you an idiot thats for sure and yes its your choice to have a cockerpoo sorry thought she was a labradoodle ! what i'm trying to get across is that they also end up in rescue people breed them sell them for lots of money then for one reason or another owners cant keep with it be financial or can't cope reasons with the dog if the dog has been too much to cope with this is normally due to the owner not laying down boundries etc at a young age then when they become adolesant they become to much of a handful not walked not stimulating the mind dog goes crazy or even the wrong diet so many cheap feeds containing e numbers thus resulting in a dog like a child on a high sweet intake !!!! not good but please people if you can offer a dog a home then try rescues they come in all shaps and sizes and any age yes even pups you would be surprised the amount of pups that are given up millie is gorgeous by the way
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Post by bessieboo on Jun 5, 2010 14:07:24 GMT
I never called you an idiot thats for sure and yes its your choice to have a thingyerpoo sorry thought she was a labradoodle ! what i'm trying to get across is that they also end up in rescue people breed them sell them for lots of money then for one reason or another owners cant keep with it be financial or can't cope reasons with the dog if the dog has been too much to cope with this is normally due to the owner not laying down boundries etc at a young age then when they become adolesant they become to much of a handful not walked not stimulating the mind dog goes crazy or even the wrong diet so many cheap feeds containing e numbers thus resulting in a dog like a child on a high sweet intake !!!! not good but please people if you can offer a dog a home then try rescues they come in all shaps and sizes and any age yes even pups you would be surprised the amount of pups that are given up millie is gorgeous by the way Everything I was trying to say explained so well!! I could not agree with this post more. |
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Post by Milliesmum on Jun 5, 2010 19:00:31 GMT
No stella you didn't call me an idiot, but there have been a few threads along the same lines as this and I get regular stick for my choice of dog! I think people need to stop and think, then think some more, then research and add up the costs involved, then think about it a bit longer, before they get a dog! So many people just don't take into consideration everything thats involved before taking them on. Maybe if they did then the rescue centres wouldn't be overflowing.
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Post by stella65 on Jun 5, 2010 19:27:22 GMT
thats ok then i thought i was trying to stay as diplomatic as i posibly can as i run my own small rescue i see the endless stream of dogs that come into rescue ! i quite agree people need to think again and again before buying a dog many people do this but still for one reason or another still have to give up there pets some older people move into accomodation that does not allow animals more and more councils are banning dogs from there houses or flats and have to give up there dogs i know i keep on banniging on about it but not all dogs have problems yes some do and these are mostly man made !
but the biggest problem is breeders they keep breeding to many dogs i wish every breeder would chip there dogs grill the new prospective owners and always offer to take the dog back and rehome them themselfs as after all they brought them into this world so should be there for them no matter what many back street breeders are only after money and dont give a toss where the dog ends up 1 dog every hour is killed in a uk pound because there is no space in rescues for them as we are so over run already this is disgusting in my eyes :-(
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Post by Milliesmum on Jun 5, 2010 19:32:04 GMT
Incidentally Millie was spayed after her first season.  |
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Post by stella65 on Jun 5, 2010 20:08:42 GMT
well done you thats what i like to hear :-D
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Post by sometime on Jun 7, 2010 0:50:07 GMT
Well I would love a dog but cant afford the high purchase price at the moment as I would like a labrador, german shepherd or such. I am a very experienced dog owner and handler even shown and done obedience competitions with them, We have a small but fenced garden and a walk next to the house. I dont work so am home all day too but I woud still rather buy a puppy once I have saved enough than go through the vetting process and stress that adopting a dog involves. That is my problem I hate other people interfering and judging I understand that the rescue people want the best for the dog and are being responsible but I find it intrusive and patronising so perhaps I am not an ideal candidate to take on a rescue dog
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Post by bessieboo on Jun 7, 2010 15:03:07 GMT
Well I would love a dog but cant afford the high purchase price at the moment as I would like a labrador, german shepherd or such. I am a very experienced dog owner and handler even shown and done obedience competitions with them, We have a small but fenced garden and a walk next to the house. I dont work so am home all day too but I woud still rather buy a puppy once I have saved enough than go through the vetting process and stress that adopting a dog involves. That is my problem I hate other people interfering and judging I understand that the rescue people want the best for the dog and are being responsible but I find it intrusive and patronising so perhaps I am not an ideal candidate to take on a rescue dog I understand totally what you are saying and I personally think that some rescues do not help themselves with the way they treat people and the requirements they want. I do home checks for one of my breed rescues but would never patronise the people I go and meet. At the end yes I am there to check that the family and home aren't totally unsuitable but I also make sure that the people know all the good AND bad points of the breed (including the slobber and vets bills!!) the way I look at it they are better off knowing the bad side so that in a few weeks they don't announce that they can't live with the breed and pack the dog back off to rescue. Keep trying with rescues, like with everything else there are good and bad and some are far more approachable than others. |
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Post by dazycutter on Jun 7, 2010 20:17:37 GMT
I dont work so am home all day too but I would still rather buy a puppy once I have saved enough than go through the vetting process and stress that adopting a dog involves. That is my problem I hate other people interfering and judging I understand that the rescue people want the best for the dog and are being responsible but I find it intrusive and patronizing so perhaps I am not an ideal candidate to take on a rescue dog sounds like you have gone to bad rescue places... there is no need for that... I am very involved with the breed rescue for the breed I own... it is imperative that you get it right second time otherwise dogs become unbalanced and difficult..I can see how it can become patronising, but wouldnt you want the best for a dog that had already been rejected oncew in its life.. |
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Post by dazycutter on Jun 7, 2010 20:21:20 GMT
I am very involved with the breed rescue for the breed I own... it is imperative that you get it right second time otherwise dogs become unbalanced and difficult..I can see how it can become patronising, but wouldnt you want the best for a dog that had already been rejected oncew in its life.. totally agree... when I vet a home I take all 3 of mine with me. if they worry, about the dogs in their house, they dont get reccomended.. its the dogs welfare that comes first not the worry of offending potential re homers.. |
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Post by stella65 on Jun 7, 2010 20:40:15 GMT
Sometime iagree with you that some rescue's can be patronising etc but this should not be the case at all as rescues we need to match the dog with the person if your wanting a large bred dog but have only 3 ft fences with no gate ( and yes this does happen ) then this dog or in fact with out a gate we would not rehome to this home but.... what we would do is give the person the option to fix this say increase the fence and attach a gate etc also any other areas that may not be aceptable to homing a dog we would not right off a home unles the adopters refused to do any works etc , we give an informal chat and then someone ould visit but it is all laid back and friendly nothing to be worried about and its your home so any home checkers would respect your home or at least i would hope they would none of this should ever be intrusive patronising or any kind of judgement on you or your house hold we do have the dogs interest at heart because the last thing we want to do is rehome a dog in the wrong situation and the owners return the dog thus unsettling for the dog
can i ask what area you are in sometime ie: scotland london hampshire etc
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Post by sometime on Jun 8, 2010 9:46:21 GMT
Lincolnshire we have 6ft fences and a gate we have the viking way footpath five yards from my door and I have owned and bred big dogs all my life. I know the work involved I could easily rehome if I was prepared to go down that route. We did go through the rehoming process for my daughters dog who she lost after ten years a few weeks ago. I lost my very precious golden retriever a year ago. I loved her enough to let her go as after twelve years her hyperacusis finally resulted in a nervous breakdown. Physically she was fit and well no stiffness or lumps or bumps. She just couldnt cope with a modern world of noise and stress. It broke my heart. In fact it has taken me this long to even consider having another dog. For over a year I slept on the sofa with her beside me so she wouldnt get stressed but it became impossible when she vomitted all over the house when we left her for an hour to do the horses She was so stressed by noise that we left her behind as they were clay pigeon shooting and she would have been very upset by the guns. however while we were out, praying she would be ok as we live in a very quiet estate someone decided to cut their grass
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Post by stella65 on Jun 8, 2010 9:57:11 GMT
oh my goodness poor girl :-( i had a collie that was very unsettled by noises and could not leave her for long untill she became deaf which was great at fireworks week i could actually go out ! but nothing as bad as your girl so sad for her and hard work for you ,
did your daughter have a good experience from rehoming from a rescue recently ? were not all bad i now some want to know what colour undies your wearing !!!! well no they dont but you know what i mean !
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Post by nj on Jun 13, 2010 14:21:42 GMT
;D Hi guys, well after I posted this original thread, it has been a very interesting read, and many people have different view Just thought that I would update you all, that the puppies are now 8wks old, healthy (vet checked) and have all gone to lovely lovely homes which were checked, we asked £150 for them and not one person quibbled with this, If I had 20 of them I am sure they would have all gone, they all went within the week of advertising them, and I only had to advertise them in the local shop in Abersoch (very well known tourist area) and they have all gone to homes where the people have 2nd homes here and I will get to see them every weekend. Happy ending ;D ;D |
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Post by Milliesmum on Jun 13, 2010 19:56:21 GMT
Brilliant news. ;D
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Post by viking on Jun 13, 2010 20:24:31 GMT
Good news. Well done.  |
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Post by kayjayem on Jun 13, 2010 21:39:51 GMT
Excellent news for you but I wanted one!!!(stomps off in a paddy!)lol!
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