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Post by I wonder on Apr 30, 2010 9:02:54 GMT
My child who is 15 and has ridden since two has suddenly started bobbing her hands up and down in rising trot, it is driving me mad, she always had lovely quiet hands, now I have pointed it out it, it seems to have become an issue, I dont know why she is doing it and dont know how to advise her to stop, Any advise would be greatly appreciated
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Post by clobo121082 on Apr 30, 2010 10:14:19 GMT
I use to get made to ride with a whip across the top of my hands under my thumbs, this stopped me turning my hands and helped my balance. If she is moving her hands it maybe due to her balance, what is her lower leg postion like? Without stirrup work will help her balance.
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Post by sageandonion on Apr 30, 2010 12:29:50 GMT
I agree it could be something to do with her balance/position/suppleness and not actually just her hands or actually that of the horse's. Isn't it odd she has just started doing it? Or is she growing/changing shape and the central balance is shifting? Pregnant ladies can have this problem until they change their position to compensate for the bump. Then after they give birth they get on and have even worse trouble changing back again.
I would do two things: get her some lunge lessons either on her own horse or on a schoolmaster lunge horse and have a balance strap fitted to the front on the saddle. I have balance straps on all my saddles, as do most dressage riders. They are used as a aide in various movements, for example linking one finger gently underneath not only encourages the hands to be still and down, but also deepens the seat.
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Post by I wonder on Apr 30, 2010 13:17:47 GMT
I dont think she has a balance issue, due to many lunge lessons with no stirrups or reins, she is quite secure, They just seem to bob up and down, The horse is fairly new to us and a novice, still in a snaffle. All of our past ponies were well established in their way of going. To be honest I think it has got worse since I pointed it out, In walk, sitting trot and canter ahe has lovely still hands, Its just her rising trot....
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Post by sageandonion on Apr 30, 2010 15:49:31 GMT
Stick a balance strap on but tell her it is for all the other reasons and don't mention the hands again.
Have you ridden the pony yourself to see if you can feel the problem, not that it sounds a problem as such, sure it will work out once she has become used to him.
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Post by casey123 on May 1, 2010 18:10:42 GMT
I use to get made to ride with a whip across the top of my hands under my thumbs, this stopped me turning my hands and helped my balance. If she is moving her hands it maybe due to her balance, what is her lower leg postion like? Without stirrup work will help her balance. I used to be made to use the "whip trick" sorted me out anyway, my SHP wouldnt cope with anything but a quiet rider on her back.. so its a good job really!
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Post by Sara on May 24, 2010 12:59:56 GMT
i could do with some £10's... Lesleyhlambert can i please come and try and play that game??!
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Post by Tandy on May 24, 2010 13:30:43 GMT
i could do with some £10's... Lesleyhlambert can i please come and try and play that game??! just what I was thinking, but maybe start with a fiver but then I am a scot and to grippy to risk a tenner lol
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Post by halfpass on May 24, 2010 17:57:23 GMT
It maybe that she is getting tight through her shoulders which is causing the hands to jiggle about,
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Post by seth398 on May 24, 2010 19:23:41 GMT
my daughter was always a neat quiet rider but when she started having group lessons with her novice pony for practise {with other show riders}she all of a sudden started fo stick her elbows out and rise with her hands it came out eventually that she was copying said riders cos they always won! not saying this is the case but children do copy who they percieve to be there betters
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Post by jhos on May 30, 2010 9:48:37 GMT
As a trainer I see a lot of bad habits when children try to copy their peers at shows.
Regarding wobbly hands, I agree , the balance strap is very helpful. Sometimes these habits start when riding a new horse, especially if there is tension. If a rider has a particular problem I like to see them on another horse before hopefully sorting the problem.
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