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Post by crimson on May 17, 2010 9:28:51 GMT
Do you put anything under them?
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Post by missmuffett on May 18, 2010 18:37:46 GMT
i dont personally but i know alot of people who put gamgee underneath
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Post by armada on May 18, 2010 18:54:52 GMT
You should always have a pad or gamgee under any type of bandage you have on the legs - exercise, support or travelling, if it comes loose and they stand on it and it then tightens it can cause horrendous damage to surface tissue and tendons, the gamgee helps protect the leg from the constricting effects of an extremely tight bandage. Plus, it can help soak up any sweat or water from wet conditions and again, help stop a bandage constricting. And the 'join' of the pad should always be on the outside of the leg in the groove and not at the front on the cannon bone or at the back on the tendon.
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Post by chloe2 on May 18, 2010 21:23:57 GMT
armada - really useful info. I am guilty of putting them onto keep his socks clean and taking them off before I go in the ring. I don't use gamgee but will start now.
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Post by norwalk on May 18, 2010 23:15:54 GMT
You should always have a pad or gamgee under any type of bandage you have on the legs - exercise, support or travelling, if it comes loose and they stand on it and it then tightens it can cause horrendous damage to surface tissue and tendons, the gamgee helps protect the leg from the constricting effects of an extremely tight bandage. Plus, it can help soak up any sweat or water from wet conditions and again, help stop a bandage constricting. And the 'join' of the pad should always be on the outside of the leg in the groove and not at the front on the cannon bone or at the back on the tendon. Well put! I remember as a child practising for hours to get my bandaging right, to be inspected by my Dad (ex Royal Horse Artillary). in addition to getting my gamgee right I also had to make sure that the bandage finished on the outside of the leg, with the "arrow" pointing to the rear...
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Post by Milliesmum on May 19, 2010 7:37:51 GMT
Can I ask what is the purpose of using fleece bandages for exercise? Genuine question, I've always used elasticated cotton ones to give support. Is the fleece stretchy? Otherwise I'd have used it more as a stable bandage?
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Post by crimson on May 19, 2010 8:15:08 GMT
Interesting responses. I have always been taught to use gamgee under bandages, but have seen loads of pics - mostly dressage riders where they don't seem to have anything underneath - hence the question.....
I use fleece bandages for travelling, with big pads underneath which go right over knees/hocks but I bought a pair recently and when unravel led they are no where near as long as they should be so I was wondering if I could get any use out of them for exercise.
An interesting point though, I used to work at a polo yard in the USA, the owner was VERY (understandably) fussy about the way his ponies legs were bandaged for matches, when I first started he has me re doing them for hours. But I never put anything underneath. I would pull out approx a foot of bandage land leave this hanging loose from the back of the knee (or hock), bandage down then lay the loose bit of bandage down over the top of the tendons and where you have already bandaged and bandage over this to keep in place. I always had to finish halfway up and on the outside too and never pull the tension from the back (over the tendons), just from the front. I did put boots on over the top too though and tape the ends of the bandage, so no chance of them coming undone.
It was also really really important their tails where well secured, he told me about a player that lost a finger when a ponies tail came down!
Sorry - off on a tangent!!!!
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Post by armada on May 19, 2010 8:35:14 GMT
It sounds like maybe you have bought fleece polo bandages, which are shorter, I use my old polo bandages for travelling as they fit the riding ponies legs better than trad travelling bandages as they are shorter, but I understand what you are saying about the polo bandages, they dont usually have anything under, but I always used small pads under mine and they were taped on within an inch of their life for safety. If I were exercising under any circumstances I would still always have something under them, what others do is their own business, but I'd be more concerned with my own animals welfare and safety as a priority. Having seen the damage on a horses leg a few years ago caused by someones total ignorance when applying a bandage without gamgee, it just re-inforced the point it was something you should never do. And on the tail issue, I was nearly pulled off one of my ponies once when my stick got caught up in a tail that had'nt been secured properly, and it was a hairy moment to have at a flat out gallop!!
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Post by helle on May 19, 2010 8:41:42 GMT
You can get excersice bandages which are designed to use without gamgee. They are fleece at one end of the bandage and then elasticated at the other.
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Post by crimson on May 19, 2010 10:33:31 GMT
Me thinks the bandages will be going to clitheroe with the rest of my clear out stuff!
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Post by madmum on May 20, 2010 12:57:37 GMT
The Whittaker bandages are designed to use with no gamgee, fleece for half then elastic, my last horse always wore bandages and I found these fab and quick!
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Post by brooksbydressage on Jul 5, 2010 19:32:25 GMT
Im a dressage bod, so I always use fleece bandages with nothing underneath, the reason being that they are NOT elastic, so the tension cannot change and then hurt them. Also if you do your BHS Stage 3, you have to fleece bandage with nothing under.
If you bandage with elasticated ( I never would because of pressure sores) or cotton bandages, then yes, you should put something underneath.
I find fleece bandages dont heat the legs like boots. I also bandage to include under the sesamoid for support and in case the other hoof/ leg strikes it. But it's all personal preference.
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