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Post by doodah on Sept 30, 2007 20:49:29 GMT
Just went to a show today and once again i, aswell as many other competitors, had to face the problem today of the general public being allowed to raom wherever they want. By general public, i mean non-horsey people.
i might seem boring and old fashioned but i nearly squished a kid in a pushchair because her mother was pushing her through the collecting ring clearly marked no specatators
i face this problem nearly everytime. does anyone else? and dont you think something should be done about it especially when the officials are sat down and un-responsive
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Post by lincolstables on Oct 1, 2007 21:32:41 GMT
I once had a real problem at Yorkshire show, I was leading a friends Arab stallion up the horse walk only to be blocked by a woman with a pushchair and 3 kids. One of the little darlings had a balloon which made a rattling noise, Arab started rearing I shouted at the woman to shift her a*se...she said Im on my way to the toilets could you move your horse....I cant repeat what I said!!!
Its about time show officials sorted this problem before someone gets killed.
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Post by thecremellosociety on Oct 12, 2007 12:51:14 GMT
we tried this at derby county by impementing a horse walked which got moaned about as you did have to walk a fair way around to get to rings, we plan on similar in 2008 with 2 horse walks meaning not such a long walk and there will nly be one area that the public have to cross the horse walk, if they stick to the public area they can still get to see every ring but you still find buggies in the horse walk, it is not acceptable and we will be blamed when there is an accident, we will implement plans for safety but public and competiotors need to help too by sticking to the correct areas
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Post by pendancer on Oct 14, 2007 9:57:35 GMT
Talking about Derby County I remember a few years ago walking a lively cob up the horsewalk and there was a family picnicing actaually on the horsewalk with young children, it was an accident waiting to happen, they just don't think.
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Post by thecremellosociety on Oct 14, 2007 12:33:02 GMT
Nope you are right there but we damed if we do and damed if we dont a, we like the public up the central avenue and horses round the edge, we will be trying a double funnel system where by each side will have a walk up, we need people to use their noggins a bit, we ut all the signs we could up stating no horses up the middle and they still came in, unless we have people policing the areas what can we do, i for one go around advosing people to move to the correct areas !!!!
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Post by winston on Dec 31, 2007 12:44:44 GMT
The public don't just walk around the horsewalks at RIHS a few years ago my daughter came out to do her show on the River Lawn only to meet a woman walking across the ring with her shopping!
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Post by seahorse on Dec 31, 2007 18:14:29 GMT
They soon start to complain about the danger when they have a pair of hooves coming at them, the shame of it is, is that the shows are only trying to give every one a good and safe day out
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Post by shelleyj on Jan 1, 2008 9:05:53 GMT
One show local to us is held on a playing field in the middle of an estate - if health and safety ever saw it they would probably go bonkers BUT the local families and exhibitors love it, children who don't get to see ponies and horses and only get the class warfare stuff about rich people having them (I wish!) realise we are normal - that to me is a big bonus
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Post by Amber on Jan 1, 2008 11:24:33 GMT
i always make an effort to talk to the G P about my horses if asked as you would be surprised at the lack of safty knowlage also people love to see horses up close .Iremember being that child who just wanted to be near thease bueatifull animals .Now i am so broke ,dog tired from working to pay for them BUT SURROUNDED BY BUEATIFULL HORSES
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Post by stinkpig on Jan 1, 2008 18:28:16 GMT
Its not about not wanting people near the horses, we are all pleased that they are interested but it has to be safe, some of those same people would be up in arms if they got hurt so all we ask is that they are aware that horsewalks do exactly what they say on the tin, they are for HORSES only and not Joe Public.
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Post by shelleyj on Jan 2, 2008 7:31:33 GMT
I quite agree but there has to be some common sense applied. Another show local to us is health and safetying itself to extinction. We have some showing mums who go on their own, with small child on pony, baby in pushchair and aren't allowed down the horsewalk to the ring to support their child. There are no people walks for them. Similarly only one person can accompany a child and pony. If another parent wants to watch they are faced with trekking all the way around the outside of the rings - I said 2 years ago never again. If you are going to have rules you have to provide for the needs of the families too.
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Post by tryphena on Jan 2, 2008 19:14:36 GMT
O.K..I might be controversial here but..
Why do people bring dogs??..They are a liability,.Trampled&agitated by crowds..bark at horses and would be 10times happier sat at home ripping the sofa to shreds..
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Post by stinkpig on Jan 2, 2008 19:21:43 GMT
How about we take horses to dog shows ha ha
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Post by Milliesmum on Jan 2, 2008 20:18:54 GMT
Excuse me, I take my dog to horse shows/county shows. She is very well behaved as she has gone to these since a baby and is used to the crowds and all the sights and sounds. She certainly wouldn't be allowed to misbehave and upset any horses or livestock. If we didn't take her with us, she would be shut in the house for the duration, without any company and no chance for a wee or whatever! She enjoys her day out as much as the rest of the family and is not an inconvenience or safety issue for anyone.
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Post by seahorse on Jan 2, 2008 20:22:45 GMT
A lot of horse people have dogs and have to take them, after all it is a outdoor sport it would be a sad day if we had to pander to the over the top health and saftey rules.
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Post by Milliesmum on Jan 2, 2008 20:30:55 GMT
It does make me cross when I end up cleaning up what someone elses dog left behind, when it ends up on the bottom of one of the kid's shoes! But that's a whole other thread!
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Post by stinkpig on Jan 2, 2008 20:31:22 GMT
Don't have a problem with the well behaved ones but not everyone is like you mm
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Post by Milliesmum on Jan 2, 2008 20:37:12 GMT
I suppose the non-horsey people wouldn't necessarily understand that a barking dog at the ringside would be a problem. Although having said that, the majority of dog owners I have met whilst hacking out have been very considerate and held on to their dogs whilst we pass. And I always make sure I say thank you! I can't ever recall having had a problem caused by a dog at a show. I did get concussed in my teens riding a just backed youngster who was chased by a jack russell!
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Post by shelleyj on Jan 3, 2008 9:08:45 GMT
there are a few local places where we can't take the dog, but as long as we are not out all day it's not a problem. The problems are if the show is far away - slightly unfair to leave dog at home alone overnight, don't think the rspca would approve, and we can always leave her guarding the lorry which she loves! It is after all the mission of every terrierist to have something to guard.... (and chew, and leave hair all over)
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Post by tryphena on Jan 3, 2008 14:14:53 GMT
I haven't got a problem with a lorry full of puppies..tetherd or otherwise.
Ringside Yappers do annoy horses..
(Having had to jump a brace of super-quick terriers could have proved dangerous as they came under the barrier during canter laps..) and received some Tongue-pie on my next lap!
Shame they didn't go for their owner's horse??
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Post by thecremellosociety on Jan 3, 2008 18:27:08 GMT
No problems with well behaved dogs on leads at shows but clear up and take crap home with you dont leave it to be trodden in !!!!!! YES I HAD EVIDENCE LAST YEAR>>>>>> vile people that do that, not dogs fault we will provide a bag if you need it !
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Post by Milliesmum on Jan 3, 2008 19:27:40 GMT
Emma you shouldn't have to provide bags, anyone out with a dog should have PLENTY of bags. I'm liable to get punched on the nose one of these days because I don't hesitate to tap someone on the shoulder and say 'Excuse me, would you like a bag for that?' It makes my blood boil - if you're not prepared to pick it up DON'T GET A DOG!!!!!!!
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Post by thecremellosociety on Jan 3, 2008 21:02:21 GMT
Im a bit of a dog poo phobic. would do my own if i had one, its not like horse pooh , it carries harful bugs, in my opnion dog muck is very similar to human muck and and would be outcry if we pulled down our trousers dumped on the street and left it there !!!! GRRRR i purchased a large roll of scented nappy sacks for both shows come in useful for alsorts and cost pence...
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Post by Milliesmum on Jan 3, 2008 21:14:53 GMT
If you visit your local council offices they will GIVE you doggy bags, free of charge, as many as you like. So you don't even have to pay for bags. There really is no excuse.
My dog is wormed regularly etc. but it makes you wonder whether the sort of people who can't be bothered to pick up, bother to worm/flea/vaccinate etc.
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Post by lolly on Jan 4, 2008 9:00:04 GMT
thats rather a good point, one i hadnt thought off......one doesnt mind if its a charity show though. the funniest doggie doo episode was watching my friend at ponies uk trying to pick up the biggest doo doo his spaniel had done with two coffee cups right infront of the grandstand, once he had done it all the spectators applauded, how embarrassed was he  Have you noticed though the kids always want the dogs then say mum hold him and walk off, you turn to look at the dog who is doing the biggest doo doo looking at you all appologetic.... oh i do so hate doggie doo |
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Post by viking on Jan 4, 2008 9:59:30 GMT
Don't mind dogs or their doo so much as mothers with kids in push carts, especially those like the one that grabbed our two year olds tail, and proceeded to push the kid across his hocks while we were in the line up to enter the ring!
Overbent, lol! Thanks for the above, my day has got off to a merry start!
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Post by red on Jan 4, 2008 10:07:10 GMT
Its definately the push chairs that annoy me!! mothers push them up to ring side by the gate, turn them around & proceed to chat, and pay no attention to the fact they are out side the ring where youngstock are about to go in & there are ponies swinging everywhere!
oh and kids on bikes. had that at one show this year, where the non horsey mum kept saying to her son 'ride as fast as you can across the field & back, ill time you' the field was infact the warm up area....
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Post by tryphena on Jan 4, 2008 16:11:35 GMT
Get yourself a Pram/Hugger..  |
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Post by stinkpig on Jan 4, 2008 16:24:46 GMT
Thats fine but i'm afraid that they are not all like that
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Post by Amber on Jan 4, 2008 17:30:37 GMT
I had horses that were used to push chairs when my kids were babies but not fair to horses to take chances,i was careful then why should i have to watch out for stupid irresponsible pushchair drivers now
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