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Post by welshbyname on Aug 27, 2010 13:17:20 GMT
GRRRRRRRRRRRR, I'm so mad. I have just found out that a horse has been 'rescued' by one of the worst riding schools around here, all with the backing of the c***y RSPCA! This riding school had been visited by the RSPCA after someone reported it, for worm riddled foals with overgrown feet and a horse being used, even though e had an open sore on his withers which was being rubbed worse by a numnah, but they were given a slap on the wrist and left to it! I used to work at said riding school but left after an arguement about said horse being used, and was ready to report them to authorities but someone beat me to it, I think they used me as a scapegoat as it was immediately after i left, i didn't mind tho, theres no love loss between me and them. I know lots of stuff about the riding school, after working there in my teens, and then stupidly returning there 2 years ago, thinking things might have changed, but they had, if anything got worse. I have no solid evidence but so much stuff is wrong, but i feel helpless, and now a poor horse has ended up there with the blessing of both horsewatch and RSPCA, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD,  ?  Its really getting to me now, i've even thought of sending some friends in incognito, to take pics as evidence, have i gone mad? IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP THESE POOR HORSES???  |
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Post by sageandonion on Aug 27, 2010 19:07:28 GMT
Calm down, don't get mad, anger clouds the judgement. You need to plot carefully!
No I don't think you have gone mad, if you can get the pictures do it and good luck to you.
Extreme measures called for.
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 27, 2010 22:16:27 GMT
Contact your local council with your concerns. To run as a riding school they need to have a license from the council and they should be inspected yearly for said licence.  |
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Post by network on Aug 28, 2010 5:40:45 GMT
I am sorry but these seems to be a little bit like sour grapes, you say they used you as a scape goat so does that mean they sacked you, it does anoy me that riding schools get such bad publicity I am stabled on a riding school that has had bad things said about it, however the ponies are like pampered pooches, and as millenium has said these yards are inspected every year by councils and vets so would be very difficult for them to be as bad as your saying. But if you are right and this horse is being ill treated contact the RSPCA or the ILPH
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Post by welshbyname on Aug 28, 2010 8:03:35 GMT
Contact your local council with your concerns. To run as a riding school they need to have a license from the council and they should be inspected yearly for said licence. Oh beleive me they have tricks to get them through that! hey know well before hand when the inspection is and can 'prepare' for it! |
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Post by welshbyname on Aug 28, 2010 8:07:50 GMT
I am sorry but these seems to be a little bit like sour grapes, you say they used you as a scape goat so does that mean they sacked you, it does anoy me that riding schools get such bad publicity I am stabled on a riding school that has had bad things said about it, however the ponies are like pampered pooches, and as millenium has said these yards are inspected every year by councils and vets so would be very difficult for them to be as bad as your saying. But if you are right and this horse is being ill treated contact the RSPCA or the ILPH Oh no Desktop, I ment whoever reported the yard, used me as a scapegoat, as the yard thought it was me who reported them, even though i know it was someone who is still on the yard as we were discussing it a few days before I left. I walked out of the yard of my own accord. I have worked in some lovely riding schools, and have seen how things are done well, and badly, this one is the pits. |
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Post by cholderton on Aug 28, 2010 15:51:31 GMT
Oh yes, an inspection is no problem as they have prior warning.
I worked in a fairly decent one years ago. When the inspection was due, the school horses were hidden away in a field several lanes away from the yard, and the full livery horses were given new identities and taken from the livery yard and put in the working yard!
(Of course, that was in the days before passports, I don't see how you could get away with this now)
I think they should introduce 'spot' checks.
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 28, 2010 15:54:07 GMT
A spot check, unnanounced, is what I'm suggesting the council do. Forewarned with a list of stuff they should be looking for.
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Post by armada on Aug 28, 2010 17:51:42 GMT
They dont though MM, having reported a place near me a few years ago, they gave them plenty of prior warning, and the vet took over a month to get his butt up there, after the ILPH had already been up, and the whole thing was just a farce.
Apart from the ILPH officer giving the owners 'advice' on how to keep their animals (he related all this to me) when they are supposed to be knowledgable professional horse owners I realised I was banging my head against a brick wall.
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Post by welshbyname on Aug 29, 2010 7:57:43 GMT
Oh yes, an inspection is no problem as they have prior warning. I worked in a fairly decent one years ago. When the inspection was due, the school horses were hidden away in a field several lanes away from the yard, and the full livery horses were given new identities and taken from the livery yard and put in the working yard! (Of course, that was in the days before passports, I don't see how you could get away with this now) I think they should introduce 'spot' checks. Sounds exactly like what they do, hide the actual riding school ponies way in fields and bring out horses who are only ever used as lead hack or livery horses, No one ever checks that horses are suitable for a riding school, no lessons are ever observed, its ridiculous! |
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Post by Ziggy on Aug 29, 2010 11:21:00 GMT
the prices that most riding schools charge for lessons, you would think that the least they could do would be to look after the horses and ponies in their care properly. Disgracefull!!
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Post by lizziemc on Aug 29, 2010 12:29:41 GMT
hi i was involved with a welfare case a few weeks ago. the person in question had 5 horses in the worst of grazing with no fresh water. one of the ponies a shetland had the worst case of laminitis i have seen. her feet were turned up and her soles had dropped through. the person in question had been reported to the sspca on numerous occasions. over the space of one weekend they had been called out both days by myself and the bhs welfare officer. nothing was done. eventually we got the sspca to call her and ask her to attend the field. we asked her to sign over the pony to the bhs and she agreed to do this. we removed the pony that day and she is now safe. we also got another pony on loan from her who again was lifted that day. the point of my story is the sspca are absolutely useless and to get things done you have to do it yourself.
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Post by network on Aug 29, 2010 19:07:38 GMT
Oh yes, an inspection is no problem as they have prior warning. I worked in a fairly decent one years ago. When the inspection was due, the school horses were hidden away in a field several lanes away from the yard, and the full livery horses were given new identities and taken from the livery yard and put in the working yard! (Of course, that was in the days before passports, I don't see how you could get away with this now) I think they should introduce 'spot' checks. Sounds exactly like what they do, hide the actual riding school ponies way in fields and bring out horses who are only ever used as lead hack or livery horses, No one ever checks that horses are suitable for a riding school, no lessons are ever observed, its ridiculous! I dont see how they could get away with this, when the vet comes they give every pony a full MOT which are checked against their passports  |
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Post by cholderton on Aug 29, 2010 19:43:14 GMT
We never had a vet to do an inspection, it was someone from the council.
As I say, this was back in the days BEFORE passports?
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Post by welshbyname on Aug 29, 2010 20:53:12 GMT
nope, just a pull out, ask name,check tack fits ( even if its not the tack they are ridden in!) saddle off trot up, next out!
No production of passport, just take the Riding school owners work for it that 'dobbin' is infact 'dobbin'!
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Post by lizziemc on Dec 15, 2010 22:58:16 GMT
just found out that the animal has to be nearly dead before the sspca can do anything about it and prosecute.that in my opinion is ridiculous. poor animals if that is what the law allows.
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Post by katherine on Dec 17, 2010 14:57:22 GMT
A friend from work went to our local rspca the other week in the hope of giving a Dog a home. They refused to let her even have a look at any as she has never had a dog before. I was so mad. She has her own house which her and her husband share and little dog would spend days with her mum (whilst she is at work) and evenings at home and She has no children. IMO that is an ideal home for most dogs. The rspca are a total waste of space, time and money !!!
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Post by tuppence on Dec 17, 2010 15:15:55 GMT
The RSPCA make me so angry. The inspectors really don't seem to have a clue.
We had a visit from the RSPCA becuase we turned our horses out in the snow (with rugs on) and some idiot had rung the RSPCA about them!
Mum wanted to re-home a cat. We have 11 acres but because the house is on a main road we couldn't have one.
Then they waste millions of pounds getting hunting banned.
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Post by crazyshetlandlady on Dec 17, 2010 16:25:13 GMT
Argh, dont get me started on the RSPCA, The amount of times in the summer I rang about dogs being left in cars in the Hospital car park with no shade / windows open, and only once did they ever get back to me and come out. 4 times in one day I've had to call about the same dog before! Rubbish, Rubbish, Rubbish!  |
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