cheeky
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Post by cheeky on Dec 11, 2006 9:01:25 GMT
Really hope i havent just guessed who it is !!!! Thanks for the brighter future brigade but think i will keep my pennies in my pocket til something is annouced
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joy
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Post by joy on Dec 11, 2006 9:30:34 GMT
Is the Darty lover defecting from another Society, I do hope so.
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Post by PressRelease on Dec 11, 2006 12:13:11 GMT
There's a press release on P(UK) website - Chief Operations Officer - Tracy Hullett.
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Post by Its a wonder on Dec 11, 2006 13:54:55 GMT
No wonder Jon resigned. Davinas still chairman ;D
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Post by wondering on Dec 11, 2006 14:01:25 GMT
It's a real shame Jon has resigned - the voice of reason.
Who is Tracey Hullet? What experience has she got in showing?
I probably sound ignorant - but it is someone I don't know?
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Post by ohno on Dec 11, 2006 14:02:02 GMT
Oh!!! All I can say is god help you if you rejoined this year, glad I didnt. I personally do not think that DW will ever go! AS for DW going out and about trying to find ways of improving the society, may I surgest that she gets on a plane at any airport, and travels to outer mongolia and watch the horse ball games there (and can not find her way back)
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Post by Me again on Dec 11, 2006 14:04:23 GMT
Well there you go, Tracey Monaghan-Hullat, daughter of Pat Monaghan and former secretary of the British Show Horse Association (BSHC&RHA).
Tracey has HUGE experience within the showing world and will do a fantastic job. She certainly wont be bulldozed by Davina and I am sure will stand up and speak for the home produced competitor.
Good move appointing her PUK!!!
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Post by penny clifford on Dec 11, 2006 14:50:23 GMT
i feel it is time that the mods take a stance and stop people posting such nasty things about Davina , i thought this site was for exchange of ides and views and helpful hints not to tear a person to pieces.
Penny Clifford
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Post by ohno on Dec 11, 2006 15:01:27 GMT
Penny, why make DW a special case? ? The posters on this site will slag every one and anyone off. DW is a big girl, she is quite capable of taking care of herself, in fact herself preservation is amazing (see press release)
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Post by penny clifford on Dec 11, 2006 15:06:55 GMT
was only using Davina as an example as she is the latest in a long row of people gettin "slagged off" last week it was the Roberts girl
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Post by ohno on Dec 11, 2006 15:15:02 GMT
To be quite honest if the showing world (general use of term) get its act together, cleaned its self up and listerned to the people on here, the incident of so called sl*g of* postings would disapear. You cannot blame people for feeling the way they do, DW has in many peoples minds ruined what was a brill society, she has underminded and hurt may people, if you fight back face to face you get barred from Puk (I was). People like myself do, in the end keep the societies afloat, we pay membership dues, they are our societies not the chairwomans!!
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Post by DW fan on Dec 11, 2006 17:21:15 GMT
A lot of you seem to forget without D.W PUK would never of started in the first place, she is money minded i grant you but who else has the knowledge and ability to run such a large organization? ?
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Post by BT on Dec 11, 2006 17:27:13 GMT
Having hummed "Money, Money money" for many years at least she can walk away singing "I Did It My Way" ;D Please can someone start the Christmas singles list again. Last year's songs were very funny!
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Post by old bod on Dec 11, 2006 18:12:36 GMT
I remember it before she took over, Ponies of Britain and it was amazing, the best in the world, the most beautiful ponies and horses. To qualify was a kin to getting your ticket for RHIS. She started Puk with all good intentions, but it soon became obvoius that things were never going to be the same again. It became easier to qualify untill now you can go down to the local club show, be the only entry and get qualified!! We have a little pony who travels as a companion, he has the worst conformation in the world but we were at a show and entered him for a laugh, he qualified for the JLS, I have a card to prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to go to Ponies of Britain and compete was like going to stay in the ritz, the best ponies and the best of everything, it is now like staying at Pontins, the worst of everything. A good leader leads from the top and sets an example! This leader has lead us into a pit were I feel that Puk may never climb out off. The people that I feel sorry for are the people at club level who have a pony that they love more than all the world, who pay their fees, get so excited when they qualify third out of three, go down to the champs with great expectations and come home heart broken after showing in a class of 30 and coming 28th!!! You tell me are they being robbed or decieved in some greedy way. I will never renew my membership while DW is at the helm, nor untill things change, why show at a down market holiday camp when I can go to NPS or BSPS?
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Post by mikado on Dec 11, 2006 20:02:36 GMT
Is she charismatic? Efficient?
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Post by Another Old Bod on Dec 11, 2006 21:57:56 GMT
I couldn't agree with you more Old Bod. I remember showing at Ponies of Britain and it was THE show to go to. It meant something to qualify for it and when you got there the ponies were all top class and the in-hand classes were a sight to behold. There were spectators all round the rings, and you could find classes to watch - not like the bun fight it is today. I will always think of a refugee camp when arriving at todays PUK summer show not one of the biggest and best pony shows in the country as it should be and was.
What exactly do we get for our 50 pounds membership, plus pony membership of 18 pounds plus 15 pounds junior membership? Sweet FA!!!
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Post by my thoughts on Dec 11, 2006 22:56:44 GMT
couldnt agree more old bod, bring back P.O.B.! I have fond memories of when it was POB, and indeed the early 1990's of PUK, these days you dont even get an annual journal for your money! I mean what is that all about?
before I used to feel compelled to support and attend PUK, it used to be fantastic - now i can take it or leave it!
I mean i remember when the had 3 fancy dress classes at the show -for entertainment - now there are more novelty classes than ever before!
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Post by Rockstar not logged in on Dec 12, 2006 8:27:25 GMT
I do agree with your comments about Davina starting PUK and without her we wouldnt have the organisation that we do now BUT, having been to the secretarys meeting /luncheon at the summer champs (we run a qualifer so got to go), Davina seems to have lost her way a bit. All she could talk about was profit margins and she seemed to think that the Zenith classes were the way to go as they produced a high turnover of ponies in a short space of time (ie lots of money). I think she is trying to do the best for the association but has lost sight of the competitors and now sees them just as a commodite to make as much money as possible out of.
Having said all of that, I have re-joined for next year as I think with Tracey at the helm things will definitely change for the better and we have to give them a chance to improve with the new regieme before we all abandon ship!!
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Post by very thick person on Dec 12, 2006 11:17:11 GMT
Am I the only one that is slightly confusd over whether Davina has retired/stood down/resigned or is staying put? Perhaps i am a bit thick but i thought she ahd resigned full stop, then it appeared she was staying put but doing more out of the office work and now it doesn't seem like evrything has changed. Was this all just a big ploy to get round the fact tha every one was proper piddled off after the circus of the summer champs or have i just completely missed something? This isn't an insult and i stand to be corrected but i am wellll confused!
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Post by Guestless on Dec 12, 2006 11:39:21 GMT
was only using Davina as an example as she is the latest in a long row of people gettin "slagged off" last week it was the Roberts girl I can understand where you are coming from, but this site gives people a unique opportunity to voice their opinions and concerns. The thread relating to "the Roberts girl" was in fact deleted. Although there are moderators, sometimes we don't want to be seen to over-police the site and we take time to ask each other if particular threads should be deleted. I don't think it is unknown that a lot of the PUK membership are experiencing issues with how it is being run and I think it is important that they have an opportunity to raise their concerns. It doesn't mean that the moderators always agree with what is being said, but we do believe in freedom of speech. If someone posts something that is factually incorrect, then we welcome advice on this so it can be corrected. Davina is more than welcome to come on and put her case forward if she so wishes. Having said all that, if there is something in particular that is concerning you, then please do let us know. How one person interprets a particular comment, may not be the same for another.
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Post by Huh on Dec 12, 2006 20:23:23 GMT
I feel the H&H could have reported all the controversy more accurately, most of what they said was a compilation of what had appeared on this forum.
Perhaps they could have tried to get an exclusive with DW and others to try to establish what the problem is.
I think its awful what rockstar said about having money grabbing classes just to increase profit.
Personally I feel the £13, 000 profit PUK made this year would be wisely spent hiring Max Clifford for a couple of hours to sort them out!
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Post by Travellers Friend on Dec 12, 2006 20:35:55 GMT
I think the press release that states "The heart of Ponies (UK) is still beating as strongly as ever" could never be more true - although the "still" is slightly ambiguous in that context Davina. A new two year contract for tens of thousands plus lots of expenses voted in by a new Board shows just how hard it's beating. But on the other hand, do they really think it is possible for DW to even attend a show at Newark - let alone negotiate on the members behalf - given what has been transpired? A thoughte for the younger generation, my traveller friends tell me that the fair has been axed in favour of some arcade games. Perhaps we could have on-line gambling next? Good little earner Davina!!
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Post by moneymoneymoney on Dec 12, 2006 22:00:35 GMT
yep Traveller, what a good idea, they could have the Las Newark Casino in operation, after all Poker is definately a 'growth sport' at the moment........ come to think of it, they could go the whole hog and axe all the pony classes and just have a poker tournament!!! what a money spinner!
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Post by good old days on Dec 13, 2006 1:25:46 GMT
yes Early days of PUK were far better, when everyone used to pile in to the ICI club house being entertained by some hypnotist! and then everyone would do a turn on the karaoke!
now people just gather round the main ring of an evening, trying to make out who is who under the dim lights!
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Post by good old days guest no 2 on Dec 13, 2006 8:09:18 GMT
I fully agree with good old days guest and i emailed Davina a few months ago expressing my concerns with the way PUK was going and the standards dropping so low, i told her my memories of the good old days classes bursting at the seams with all the top poinies and producers there for the duration and great evenings in the ICI, comeplete with 3 course meals with waiter sevice and Edwina Wiggins and David Machin singing your the one that i want on the karioke and everyone dancing. Davina had the courtesy to email me back, "I wish" was her reply so perhaps she would prefer the old days but finance wont allow it, i dont know but it is the first year i will not renew my membership and it is with great saddness i wish Davina all the luck in the world she has given my family some of the best memories we will ever have. The very best of luck to Tracy Hewlitt i really hope she can turn this around then we will come back.
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Post by sallyw on Dec 13, 2006 8:39:17 GMT
I think this is the place to tell my experience of Davina Whiteman - nit because I want to slag her off but becasue it illustrates why people find her difficult. I entered the finals one year and almost immediately after sending the cheque the pony had a horrendous accident and there was no way he would compete let alone occupy a stable there. I wrote to PUK sending a vets certificate and asked for a refund - it was still before the clsoing date of entries, which as we all know is literally months before the show. They refused so I wrote a letter to Horse and Hound suggesting that shows with a very early closing date of entries might at least like to refund stabling costs with a vets cert. Davina wrote a thoroughly nasty letter back, insulting me personally to such a degree that I had letters of support from all over the country. She then banned me from membership of PUK and I remain - as far as I know- banned. This was a ridiculous reaction to what I considered to be a very fair point. I believe that on occasions she took far too strong a line with people who did not derserve it and this made her become so unpopular. Anyone in "high office" especially in the horse world will come i for some flack but Davina Whiteman, I believe, did nothing to help herself. I think it will be good thing to have new management whoever it is - maybe I will be allowed to join again!
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Post by Absoluetly on Dec 13, 2006 13:12:42 GMT
poor you that is a shocking story, this is a typical example of how undemocratic/unreasonable societies and associations are being, they have become too big for their boots and feel they are above reason, perhaps its a good job she stood down.
With that sort of behaviour I'm suprised there are not more court proceedings as we have witnessed with WPCS.
I'm sure there will be research in to the behaviour of people when they percieve themselves to be infallible!
This only confirms that the balance of power does not lie with the members.
Davina is like a mole at the summer champs, weaving her way round in her buggie (with her name in the window) smoking f*gs and looking to find fault, insult people and generally cause an obstruction/nuisance to peoples business.
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Post by good old days guest no2 on Dec 13, 2006 13:56:40 GMT
How can you all call Davina so badly when without her we would not have had PUK at all you are crazy YES she has ruined it now but lets not forget rather to have loved and lost than to never love at all
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Post by Pho3nix on Dec 13, 2006 13:58:57 GMT
It is a shame when "power" goes to peoples' heads and they become self obsorbed. however, things are in the early stages of change, prehaps we need to watch how things develop with the new person in charge.
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Post by Jo Jenkins on Dec 13, 2006 15:26:34 GMT
I think you are being over optimistic. Betsy has gone but DAVINA HASN'T. She will still be pulling the strings and be wielding huge influence. All the other bods who were around her supporting her are still there just with new name tags. The new c.o.o is only an employee with a fancy title she will only have the power to do what she is told by the board. THE SAME BOARD by and large that have been doing all the things that we all hate and disagree with , WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JOHN PHILLIPS. WHY DO YOU THINK HE HAS GONE? Just having a change of what is basically a new secretary changes nothing.
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