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Post by secretlady on Sept 30, 2010 6:32:47 GMT
please dont make the same mistake i'ave have made dont listen to people if they they say it will be ok it happened to me i left my colts and fillies running together as i am sure some of u probaly do until app 10 or 11 months i now have a yearling in foal something i would never of wanted to happen and this saying hes not fertile unless he has two down not true either i hope by putting this on here it might stop someone else making the same mistake
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Post by lils on Sept 30, 2010 6:37:55 GMT
please dont make the same mistake i'ave have made dont listen to people if they they say it will be ok it happened to me i left my colts and fillies running together as i am sure some of u probaly do until app 10 or 11 months i now have a yearling in foal something i would never of wanted to happen and this saying hes not fertile unless he has two down not true either i hope by putting this on here it might stop someone else making the same mistake how did you find out she is in foal, if a vet has examined her, and found her in foal, surely it would have been safer to get it aborted? |
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Post by secretlady on Sept 30, 2010 6:41:39 GMT
i would have but had no idea until to late the vet said should be ok but still worried shes only a babe so was the colts so never dreamed it would happen
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Post by brindlerainbow on Sept 30, 2010 6:57:02 GMT
Colts are fertile from a very young age.A friend of mine left her colt on his mum until he was over a year old and he got her in foal and she had a terribly deformed foal that only lived a few hours.
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Post by lils on Sept 30, 2010 9:03:49 GMT
i would have but had no idea until to late the vet said should be ok but still worried shes only a babe so was the colts so never dreamed it would happen how far gone is she now, |
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Post by sarahp on Sept 30, 2010 9:11:42 GMT
Mistakes happen, part of life!
Well done for putting this up to warn others, and good luck with the yearling. Diet will be important, if it were me I'd be on the phone to some of the feed company nutritionists for advice - I've found Top Spec very good.
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Post by pocketrocket1 on Sept 30, 2010 13:03:04 GMT
My colt is 16 months and blissfully unaware that he is a colt, he has not shown any desire to mount the mares / fillies is he ok running with them over winter??
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Post by torgrosset on Sept 30, 2010 13:57:39 GMT
Also, another slant on this subject, which may or may not affect other fillies in these circumstances. However, I feel that it has a psychological affect on them in the long term. My little mare was covered as a yearling, not sure if it was accidentally or not, whilst with a previous owner. She has since been used as a broodmare (by a different previous owner) and was apparently a nightmare to cover as she wouldn't let any stallion near her regardless of her season/dates etc. She's now a ridden pony, however we have to be very careful with other ponies around her hind quarters as she's liable to lash out at them. I truly believe this is all a psychological reaction due to her being covered as a yearling, which seems to have been very traumatic for my mare.
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Post by sarahp on Sept 30, 2010 14:04:59 GMT
No pocketrocket1, not ok unless you are prepared to risk unintended foals being born next autumn!
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Post by slj on Sept 30, 2010 16:33:37 GMT
There is no way I would have colts and fillies together especially after 6 months of age.
I have had a couple of eager colts and they have been weaned early due to them showing too much interrest in their mums!
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Post by secretlady on Sept 30, 2010 16:48:24 GMT
pocketrocket1 i thought the same about mine never saw him mount the filly either was not at all coltish or so i thought he seemed v immature obviously not colts and fillies now seperated as soon as weaned no longer than 6 months
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Post by brt on Sept 30, 2010 16:49:32 GMT
My colt has been mounting his mum and aunty since he was a baby, i know this is part of coltish behaviour but he tried to get through the fencing to my section A mare at 4 mths old.
I have to keep the non covered mares with a field between them and the colt as i do believe he will cover them very shortly. He's nearly 6 mths old and certainly knows what his bits are for.
Edited to say, his mum and aunty were covered in their foaling heat so no danger that he covered them as they were already in foal, but i wouldn't have put it past him.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2010 5:37:14 GMT
Thank you for the warning - my filly is definately staying away from colts !!!!!!!!
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Post by sarahp on Oct 1, 2010 9:02:21 GMT
You never see any sign of interest from my mature D stallion either when in the field with his mares - but they are all in foal all the same! He obviously prefers the cover of darkness. I suppose if you think about it they will have evolved to be like that to be safer from predators, same with time of foaling.
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Post by horseyll81 on Oct 2, 2010 6:40:00 GMT
Lol Lovepink....luckily you have a colt free zone!!! xxx
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Post by holiday on Oct 2, 2010 7:18:29 GMT
We tend to split ours up after Christmas before the spring and the "yearling" fillies start cycling.
Mistakes can happen and I think you were very brave to post to warn everyone, colts are fertile as stated above earlier than people imagine.
Im sure with TLC your filly will be fine, at least you do know and it wont be a shock to you and you can be prepared. Good luck with her.
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Post by secretlady on Oct 2, 2010 17:14:39 GMT
Thank you holiday for your lovely comments
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Post by tamrik on Oct 2, 2010 19:57:32 GMT
dont beat yourself up over it, mistakes happen, one of my stallions swam a river to cover my mares last year, them swam back again so we never knew until they all started showing this spring!!!!! got some lovly foals out of it, but was trying to have a year off from breeding!!!!
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Post by pattendown on Oct 5, 2010 20:02:42 GMT
it has happened to me as well and you have to take into account that they are growing as well as growing a foal so she ate alot more than they normally would with a broody ,,,she had the foal with a little help
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Post by barney07 on Oct 29, 2010 8:32:40 GMT
Just one thing to keep in mind regaurds to feeding dont feed to much in the last 4 months coz the foal may get to big to come out but to b on safe side if ur mare starts lookin a bit poor remember u can always give her the feed wen baby has come out i know it sounds mean
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Post by holiday on Oct 29, 2010 10:03:15 GMT
Just one thing to keep in mind regaurds to feeding dont feed to much in the last 4 months coz the foal may get to big to come out but to b on safe side if ur mare starts lookin a bit poor remember u can always give her the feed wen baby has come out i know it sounds mean That is a very good point raised, just make sure she has all the required vitamins in form maybe of a lick or mineral block so that she doesnt put huge amounts into growing her foal but has everything available that she may need, however make sure she has enough calories when near to the actual birth so she doesnt run out and give up. |
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Post by heathers on Oct 29, 2010 11:13:44 GMT
my colts and filly's get seperated at 6 months
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Post by fourjoy on Oct 30, 2010 17:36:34 GMT
I am sorry but to not feed a mare properly when she and the foal needs it the most is a scary thought, the nature is clever... small mares covered by larger stallions often get foals in their size, big foals catch up their size after they are born.
If you do not feed her properly you might get a poor foal or the mare who are supposed to grow herself could get negative effects that can be longlasting or damaged for life.
So trust in nature and feed her properly, she is far more better of to handle a perhaps difficult birth if she is in good condition and strong, keep the vets phonenumber close if she gets in trouble and keep a close eye on her, but I di not think you have to worry
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Post by princessstacie22 on Oct 30, 2010 17:52:24 GMT
I dont think they were on about 'not feeding' they were on about ''not feeding too much''.
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Post by wilmira on Oct 30, 2010 20:18:09 GMT
Agree with fourjoy, the foal will take what it needs the mare gets what is left, if her feed is reduced she will end up lacking in nutrients, first foals are generally small anyway
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Post by fourjoy on Oct 30, 2010 20:26:55 GMT
to think that the foal will get bigger because you feed the mare is ridiculous, the foal will take what it needs from mum to grow whatever size it is supposed to....if it can...only thing shortage of food will lead to is a poor quality foal, bones and joints will not develop properly, the immune system might get poorly also....
The first one to go downhill is mum when not feeding properly, and it should never ever come to that with the different kinds of top quality feeds available today.
They need good amounts of protein the last months, not just vitamins and minerals....actually vitamins and minerals should stay the same entire time and are often plenty enought if you have good quality haylage or hay.
I have seen way too many underweight brood mares on different sites, it is not ok... loss of muscles in back and backend, neck, ribs showing is poor feeding....
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Post by barney07 on Nov 30, 2010 9:02:51 GMT
Yes not saying under feed but if the mare not being a broodmare and being so young if the mare gets fed to much the mare will get fat so baby can find it difficult to turn and get out which will make it more stressful for the mare who again i will mention to fourjoy is a baby herself not a dig at her being young but its needs to be taken into account
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