Dodgy all over again

[Cant be right]

Has any one looked at the WPCS website - i wont mention names but - before Olympia there where 3 photos of the sec D's qualified - 2 where of the same prefix and jockey?? - maybe just coincidence

but - if you look in the WPCS journal - page 174 - the 1st paragraph - and if you look on the WPCS site now - a certain person is a certain persons own fan club -

i find this myself very disturbing that he is getting all this publicity from the said person -surely this should be addressed

[so]

So what is your point about said person?
He is a very good rider and producer and he's not the only one to have qualified 2 ponies in the same year!!!!!!

[But]

I think what people dont like is when said person is given a ticket at northleach in return for a win at the royal welsh! think about it! then you wonder why people are angrey.

[so]

So what you are saying is that the D he qualified is not Worthy of a ticket!

[But]

In my opinion no, it was not a worthy winner. I also dont think it contested any other olympia qualifying rounds as northleach was 'in the bag'.

It was very obvious and the turnout in the ridden D's at northleach reflects this.

[But]

I forgot to mention in my above post, that I personaly have no problem with said person, he produces his horses very well, (although I dont always thing they go the best they can) I am a huge fan of his ride at olympia this year.

Just when things appear fishy you cant expect people to swallow it!

[sallyw]

The trouble with showing horses is that there will always be dubious results - people doing people favours and the like. In more than forty years I have probably seen most things - although I have to say that Welsh exhibitors are the worst - some of the council members on the WPCS being shameless. I am a Welsh exhibitor myself and sometimes I feel very sad at what goes on sometimes. I would rather be last with a cclear conscience.

[john]

Cant said:

Has any one looked at the WPCS website - i wont mention names but - before Olympia there where 3 photos of the sec D's qualified - 2 where of the same prefix and jockey?? - maybe just coincidence

but - if you look in the WPCS journal - page 174 - the 1st paragraph - and if you look on the WPCS site now - a certain person is a certain persons own fan club -

i find this myself very disturbing that he is getting all this publicity from the said person -surely this should be addressed

hi just had a look at website think you better go on there again to, yes they have the same prefix but the word photographer is used and not jockey thats why they are the same, coz looking at the photo one looks male and one female (apologies if not) just my opion.


www.wpcs.uk.com/society/olympiaqual06.html

[Seeker of truth and justice]

Link this topic to the new NPS rule about only qualifying 1 pony...........................

[Cant be right]

Yes its Def him on both pics LOL you thought it wasnt

I am not a fan of FGMK - but i can see why people do like her - but in reality if she was turned out on the mountians would she survive - that is what i like my cobs to be like - but its all down to personnal preferance

[Oppinion]

Its all down to personal oppinion,

AW (Sydenham) is a judge of some repute and knows her welsh well. She bred these two so obviously knows good bloodlines and likes the type. If you look at any of her stock they all have the same stamp

In my oppinion thats what makes a good stud - knowing what type they breed.

Another example is the Holltess stud. You can see their type is a mile off -same goes for Heniarth , millcroft etc.

Thats the true idea of breeding. Bredding to what YOU think is the ideal type.

It is after all why we have judges who have oppinions.

All the D's (I believe) were very diffrent types at Olympia this year. I had a fave type but some prefered others.

Thats the beauty of showing!

[daydreamer]

I would like to point out that forget me knot is turned out on the side of the brecon beacons unrugged, all winter, and survives particularly well, dont confuse coarseness with hardiness or well all be going back to the days of feather up to arm pits and conky white heads, which if you look at the breed description is wrong, quality isnt.

[GUEST TODAY]

daydreamer said:

I would like to point out that forget me knot is turned out on the side of the brecon beacons unrugged, all winter, and survives particularly well,

Yeah like anyone believes that , clipped and unrugged ? pull the other one daydreamer

[sallyw]

Some people do produce very good ponies and cobs in the summer who are turned out in the winter - although I have never really been sucessful with this. However, the rules don't say that ponies have to be kept naturally at home - and some of us do other things with our ridden ponies in the winter so have to keep them reasonably clean and often clipped. My Welsh Cob is kept in at night and clipped because he doing dressage and jumping and other fun things in the winter. Who cares if this is not how he was originally bred to live - he is having fun!

[daydreamer]

I was referring to cant be right's comment doubting fgmk's ability to live out on a mountain, obviously if a nything has been clipped to do winter shows they cant be turned out unrugged, but that does'nt mean they are incapable

[daydream believer]

GUEST said:

daydreamer said:

I would like to point out that forget me knot is turned out on the side of the brecon beacons unrugged, all winter, and survives particularly well,

Yeah like anyone believes that , clipped and unrugged ? pull the other one daydreamer

whats not to believe we have a section b who is out 24 7 and he looks as if he is in full summer coat, it is him naturally, he never feels the cold.

[held to ransom]

It has come to light that a well known stud is holding a producer to ransom over the production of a pony. The pony in question would be an assett to any yard but the producer is only allowed to hav it if they get rid of another successful pony. Interestingly the culprit'sgood friend did this to another producer over another pony a few year's back. Let's hope fairness prevails and neither owner will be disappointed and the producer ends up with two beautiful ponies to show next season.
Peace and Goodwill to you all.

[interesting]

Very interesting ransom - i am in the sticks hence no idea who you are talking about any clues

[Nikki]

To be honest if I was this said producer, I think I would tell the 'well known stud' to keep their so called asset because if they are already calling the shots now, what will happen if this star pony fails to win his/her classes? Certainly doesn't seem worth the hastle - only my opinion of course.

[Guestless]

held said:

Let's hope fairness prevails and neither owner will be disappointed and the producer ends up with two beautiful ponies to show next season.
Peace and Goodwill to you all.

IMO fairness prevailing would mean the producer telling the well known stud to get lost! If the pony is go good, then the owner shouldn't be so threatened by another one.

[H H]

guestless said:

held said:

Let's hope fairness prevails and neither owner will be disappointed and the producer ends up with two beautiful ponies to show next season.
Peace and Goodwill to you all.

IMO fairness prevailing would mean the producer telling the well known stud to get lost! If the pony is go good, then the owner shouldn't be so threatened by another one.

What a load of gobble di gook, you could have just made all this rubbish up just to start rumours, you are being very unfair, the wrong people could be blamed for these stupid rumours, if you cant name and shame, and be honest, then you should not write in such trash. people like you are bad for this site....