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Post by ferret on Jan 3, 2007 14:09:57 GMT
I agree with you on that one 'fatty boom boom ' i have two connis ....one comin three , one comin 4 ....the coming 4 yr old has always looked mature and could of gone out and looked ok as a novice 4 yr old last year ...but the other one looks immature and prob wont be ready to come out under saddle till she is late 4 / 5 year old .....think it depends on the pony . but i am so concious of either being overweight ....there is no excuse for an overly fat pony ! Go to connemara / highlands / welsh mountains and see the conditions that our natives have derived and survived from ...it makes you think about the food you give them !!!! I went to Connemara in Oct and it opened my eyes to how hardy the connemaras are !!!
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Post by Fatty on Jan 3, 2007 19:45:57 GMT
I went to a show back in middle of august and it was Sec C yearling colt class.
I colt came in the ring looking like a yearling then the next colt that came in i thought was in the wrong class because he was so fat! he looked like a 3yo not a yearling.
the Judged placed him 1st then changed him to last and told him he was too Fat.
Welll done Judge!
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Post by katie on Jan 3, 2007 22:14:00 GMT
I went to a show back in middle of august and it was Sec C yearling colt class. I colt came in the ring looking like a yearling then the next colt that came in i thought was in the wrong class because he was so fat! he looked like a 3yo not a yearling. the Judged placed him 1st then changed him to last and told him he was too Fat. Welll done Judge! it must have been thin when it walked in. ha ha......... |
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Post by armada on Jan 4, 2007 12:52:23 GMT
Last year at one of the National Championship shows a foal came into the ring with its dam. I have never seen anything like it, it had a crest, large muscled shoulders and the biggest roundest bottom I have ever seen, when it walked away from me, I could clearly see lumps of fat on its quarters. The effects of having such a young pony so fat and overdeveloped will only cause severe health problems. I vowed there and then the day I ever thought that was right, would be the day I sold my ponies and gave up.
I also judged someone who had a grossly overweight sec D. As I was explaining to her the difference between fit and fat, she turned and walked away from me and out of the ring!
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Post by sallyw on Jan 5, 2007 8:40:02 GMT
Some years ago we were in a ridden native class when a Highland dropped dead - of a suspected heart attack - in the ring right in front of a fairly large crowd. The vet came and really lost his temper, blaming the rider for the horse's death because it was so over weight. There was a lot of muttered agreement round the ring. At that very same show in 2006. The class was won by a ridiculously gross Welsh cob. So clearly nothing at all has been learnt. Whats the answer?
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Post by lolly on Jan 5, 2007 8:49:57 GMT
Ive put my mare on a diet along with me  |
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Post by eyes on Jan 5, 2007 18:07:39 GMT
i think when the judges clearly start placing people down the line for overweight then u will find people stop getting ponies into such a overweight condition,but all the time the judges keep placing them up nothing will change  |
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Post by ammevo on Jan 5, 2007 19:14:41 GMT
Me too guest -
I have a welsh A&D that both look as fat a Bulls.
They are out in mud and given just a very small bit of hay morning and night no hard feed and worked most days.
I have tried putting a muzzle on both of them but, if worn for too long end up with sore bits!!
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Post by sallyw on Jan 6, 2007 13:43:57 GMT
Didn't you know ammevo that all the welsh scetions have the ability to convert air into fat? My groom (n ot known for his wit) says that if we give one of ours any less food she will end up owing us!
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Post by tiggy on Jan 15, 2007 10:06:01 GMT
I agree with the youngstock - I have a now 3 year old section A that I showed as a yearling and that was what she looked like - and was always at bottom of line up below yearlings that looked like 3 year olds and I am sure this year will be the same - I have a yearling colt that I show for someone else and again he was always bottom (although he was quite immature) now he is 2 and looks superb but I bet he still looks immature amongst the others - none of these fat youngsters will come out as ridden ponies sadly and I agree although some judges are seeing the light so many more are not and continue to place these overweight gross animals to the detriment of nicer but slimmer animals down the line - I love it when a judge places a fat pony last and would also do that myself when I am judging at a local level and then try to explain why to the competitor being as diplomatic as possible - it is about education but judges need to be educated as well before it will work - did I read somewhere that one of the societys is going to condition score as they come into the ring and obese ponies will not be allowed to enter the ring or did I hopefully dream it
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Post by guest66 on Jan 16, 2007 12:07:27 GMT
Lead rein and first ridden M&M ponies are often overweight and this isn't just because the owners believe it looks good, but because their little jockeys can't handle a fit pony.
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Post by tustus on Jan 16, 2007 12:12:35 GMT
Lead rein and first ridden M&M ponies are often overweight and this isn't just because the owners believe it looks good, but because their little jockeys can't handle a fit pony. They don't need to be fit to be slim. I know little natives can put weight on on fresh air (it seems), but a bit less food wouldn't go a miss sometimes. |
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Post by overweight grumble on Jan 16, 2007 12:17:50 GMT
It applies right across the board. I show coloureds. A prestigious this year was IMO too fat yet still went champion. Gorgeous pony, moved beautifully but I have a photo which clearly shows a huge CHANNEL down its back where the fat just sticks up either side. Disgusting. I have come into contact with said judge who when challenged said 'they have to be fat to win - the fat ones simply look better!'  sorry but until judges get their act together there will always be owners who will endeavour to have their horses as fat as possible - sorry with as much 'condition' as possible I wish the same applied to humans as then my backside would win HOYS this year ;D |
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Post by sallyw on Jan 16, 2007 17:37:00 GMT
Lead rein and first ridden M&M ponies are often overweight and this isn't just because the owners believe it looks good, but because their little jockeys can't handle a fit pony. I am not sure that fat equals quiet. We do these classes and some of the worst behaved ponies are the fattest. I presumed that this was because they had not had enough work and were therefore too fat and also excitable. I find if these little ponies have something to think about - varied work on a regular basis then they come out quieter at a show. Not one of them is fat enough to have a channel down the back which is completely disgusting! |
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