darme
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Post by darme on Nov 4, 2010 17:25:13 GMT
I have a yearling now , 2yrs May 2011 he stands around 13.2 on wither and a good 13.31/2 on bum , his breeding is pbarab , what height do you think he may grow to ?? , Has anyone any good advice on feeding for growth and well being ?
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Post by fairleykismet on Nov 5, 2010 12:34:02 GMT
I cant help you there, sorry. I have a yearling pba and is dam is 13.2, sire 14hh and he stands at 13.1 now so i have no idea what height he will make. Anyone help??
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Post by sjc on Nov 5, 2010 19:22:54 GMT
Someone on here (cant remember who) said her vet had told her to measure the length from the middle of the knee to the beginning of the coronet band and that is the expected height. The vet said that bone never grows. I tried in on my foal and youngstock and it seems to have truth behind it!!
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Post by sjwshowteam on Nov 16, 2010 12:07:12 GMT
i thought the bone grew? ?? iv never heard of a bone not growning ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 12:28:23 GMT
I think i have mentioned my dilema before. my 2 year old is 16hh now, his dam is 15hh and his sire is 14hh or there about. He is still growing. I dont know what his grand parents heights were. I think if you know that you will have a better idea. Good feeding helps too but be careful as you dont want joint problems, i wouldnt feed mine any hard feed if i wasnt showing him. He is fed on frickers show and conditioning mix only a scoop a day plus ad lib hay and turnout. I always feed a good broad spectrum vitamin in winter as well as garlic all year round and thats about it.
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Post by sjwshowteam on Nov 16, 2010 15:13:58 GMT
ohhh gosh he a vvvv big boi my rp is around 11,3 12hh now in height her mum 14hh and dad 15,1 im hopeing for a 14,2 but breeder says 14hh surly not with the height she is now lol
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Post by shamrock on Nov 28, 2010 8:28:44 GMT
Im convinced its very much a guessing game my filly yearling stands at 13.3 at withers and a good few inches more on her bum and her mum is a sec d 14.1/2 at the most and her dad is a 13.2 coloured traditional so what happened there ? ppl think she will now make 14.3/15 hands now, hope she dont make any bigger than that though
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Post by sarahp on Nov 28, 2010 12:25:03 GMT
Bones do grow in length while they are young but stop growing longer in a known sequence, starting with the ones at the bottom of the leg and working upwards. But they do turn over bone all the time, absorbing and replacing it.
I always understood that the measuring was from elbow to ground and doubling it to give mature height, and another for animals this sort of size is to assume an inch of growth per year from yearling to 4yo although this is general and does not allow for individual variations as the measuring does.
As for feeding, mine (Welsh As and Ds) are in a night for their first winter only being fed a youngstock balancer and fibre feed where necessary for extra calories but after that are out at grass unless going showing. It is not good for them to get too fat, but they do need all essential micronutrients including good quality protein in order to grow to their best advantage.
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Post by incasha on Nov 29, 2010 19:53:08 GMT
Think I may be being a it slow....but what do you mean measure knee to coronet band and thats the height.......thats not very tall!! lol
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Post by cisbury on Nov 29, 2010 20:01:40 GMT
If you measure from the middle of the knee, ( i knows sounds as if it is open to interpretation, but when you are doing it the middle is reasonably obvious), following the contures down the front of the leg, down to the top of the coronet band. The measurement in inches is the height the horse will be when it is fully grown. I am not sure how old the horse to be in the first place, but I know is is accurate from a 2 year old.
When I first heard about this if was very sceptical. I went and measured mine, and wow it was correct (assuming the JMB got their heights correct!)
best of luck
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Post by incasha on Nov 29, 2010 20:22:07 GMT
so for example if it was 14 inches he would be 14 hands? or have i still got it wrong???
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Post by incasha on Nov 29, 2010 20:47:00 GMT
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Post by sjc on Nov 30, 2010 19:47:21 GMT
Yes incasha 14 inches would be 14hh. Its only what I have read but seems to be accurate on the ones I have tried! xx
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Post by Millthorn on Dec 14, 2010 12:28:51 GMT
I also heard the "middle of the knee"measuring recently and measured all my horses and it is right!They are supposed to be over 5 and a half months. A friend I know who has been breeding for over 40 years was always told to measure from the elbow and double it, it never worked for him!
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Post by sarahp on Dec 14, 2010 12:42:17 GMT
I'd guess that is when the growth plates close in the lower leg so no more growth takes place. What about differences in conformation though - I have some As here with tiny short cannons, others the same size with much longer ones?
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Post by sjwshowteam on Dec 14, 2010 14:07:04 GMT
just did this for my shp foal and she ment to make 14hh + and it sed shel be 13hh and also meaured the middle of the knee to top of coranet band and says 14.5 inch im hopeing she is 14hh to 14.2 ill be devo if shes 13hh ...............
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Post by beckylock on Dec 16, 2010 9:24:17 GMT
O thats fab thanks will save site. Well I have a very very large yearling. Mum is 15.1hh dad is 13.3hh full sister should finish at 14.2hh well this girl as a yearling is 15.1hh in front and 15.2hh behind The charts says she will be 16hh- 16.1hh I have always wanted a big trad mare just didnt think I would breed me one out of my little stallion... haha ;D ;D ;D
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Post by sarahp on Dec 16, 2010 11:09:47 GMT
That's one thing about breeding from animals of mixed parentage - you don't know what size their ancestors were so you can get surprised!
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