get this one guys! for a bit of a giggle!

[hj49]

theres another post about people being so b*tchy and i think you should read it s+o because some things you say make people feel like crap. instead of shooting everyone down have a look at yourself

[bonnieheather]

At 16, M&M's life experience isn't as wide and varied as others, it doesn't mean her opinion is wrong. Perhaps she has gone about this an immature way, but she is talking about it the way she best knows how to - this may not be to everyone's taste and may come across as childish, but who is to say she is not entitled to moan? We all do it!! There are far, far worse things said on here (and by adults no less!!)
Goodness me, this is the day and age of the internet, so let her speak...
I am sorry that your Grandad doesn't want to know you - his loss. Who knows his reasons? We all have our crosses to bare, perhaps his reasons go way back, before you were even born. Enjoy your ponies xx

[Milliesmum]

Right, I've read all of this thread, and enough is enough.

M&Mwhp, why do you feel that your grandfather should finance your ponies, or give you money to get another pony? Most of us have to finance our own horses if we have them, I currently don't but I am working and SAVING UP THE MONEY to buy one, I'm not asking anyone for a handout.

You have been very disrespectful to your grandfather on this thread. You have called him ignorant, selfish, a grumpy sod, a grumpy and miserable person, 'up his own bum', horrible old man, you have accused him of 'making your nan and dad have angina', and 'using your father as a slave'. Now I happen to know about heart complaints, and angina can be caused by a lot of things, but it most definitely can't be given to you by another person. With regards to him 'using your father as a slave' and paying him minimum wage, as a grown up you are able to choose where and for whom you work - so to continue to working for your grandfather your father must have been happy to accept the situation.

You seem to base how much someone cares about you on the level of material posessions they provide for you - magazines, pocket money, easter eggs - your grandfather isn't obliged to provide you with any of these things, and quite frankly judging by the way you have referred to him on this thread, I can't see why he would want to.

And finally I'm going to quote one last comment made by you, 'I just wanted people to laugh at how stupid he is being'. I think that says it all really, you need to deal with the situation with a bit of dignity and self respect, as all of the things you have said on this thread really do not show you in a very good light.

[m&mwhp]

i just want him to care. thats all. nothing more, nothing less. just wanted my own flesh and blood to love me.
IVE SAID BEFORE, I DO NOT IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM WANT HIM TO GET ME ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PONIES. i just would like his knowledge once ina while, too much to ask for?
i dont even want anything from him, just a heart and knowledge, perhaps you've never been this type of situation, so you wouldnt understand maybe?
i dont want to be disrespectful to anyone on here, so please can everyone stop commenting unless you can give me some positive advice, as i am going through a difficult time with another family member. like my friend said to me on facebook, if she sees something she doesnt like or agree with then she doesnt bother commenting, and carries on enjoying this forum, not saying horrible remarks about someone you dont know anything about.

my father is not happy with the way he is treated, i can assure you of that. but my grandfather will not hand over the reins to my father. so please start saying that my dad is happy with this situation.

finally, please no more negative comments. Thank you x

[Milliesmum]

I'm trying to help you here. All the words I used were your words, taken from your posts. I sympathise with the situation you are in, what I'm trying to say is you are not putting yourself across very well. I suspect the situation is not really about you, but goes back much further and it's probably stuff that happened so long ago that no one can really remember what all the ill feeling is really about. I think your best way forward would be to do your best in everything you do, be it schoolwork, riding, competing or whatever, grow up into a polite, pleasant and determined young lady so when he looks at you he can see what he is missing out on. At the moment it just seems like you're quite sulky, moody and immature, not saying that's how you are but that's how your posts are making you appear, if you understand what I'm trying to say? And while you can't do anything about your grandad's attitude, there's an awful lot you can do about your own, so that one day he'll look at you and wish he'd got involved.

[bonnieheather]

Read what MM says, she really is giving you good advice xx

[brindlerainbow]

[Onthebit]

I think, perhaps, it is time that this thread is locked.

[hj49]

normandys a school tripp

[cholderton]

I think it should be locked also, I feel uncomfortable reading this.

[brindlerainbow]

worntheshirt, the images I have used are clapping...............I am applauding what Overbent has said, she speaks alot of sense....................................

[helle]

M&MWHP if you are still reading this:
I have given this some thought today, cos I think you are basically hurting, and need some help/ advice. Sometimes things that happen before you are even born can have a direct influence on your life. I can only assume that because your grandad dosen't appear to like your side of the family very much, that maybe something has happened, in which case I don't think anything you say or do will make the slightest bit of difference.

OR, sometimes people need to know that they are needed. Have you tried ASKING your grandad for advice/ opinion??? Maybe he is slightly upset because you are coping without him, and perhaps he would actually love to be involved but fels surplus to requirement?? If you haven't tried then it may be worth a go - just DON'T 'diz' any advice he may give you- regardless of how much you may dissagree with it, but thank him for his time!

[network]

Nov 18, 2010 18:21:33 GMT wornthetshirt said:

In all honesty, what business is it of ours? Her entire attitude CERTAINLY cannot be applauded.

Unfortunately she made it everyones business when she posted on an open forum

[wornthetshirt]

Nov 18, 2010 18:23:28 GMT brindlerainbow said:

worntheshirt, the images I have used are clapping...............I am applauding what Overbent has said, she speaks alot of sense....................................

Yes, yes, I am obvoiously aware that it is clapping. Not that daft.

Just wasn't sure who was being clapped. certainly, not the kid who thinks this thread is a giggle.

This poor young soul needs to get out in the world and see how hard it is.

(and she must learn/try to guess what her Grandfather 'may' have gone through as as has been said previously, there may have been 'previous' history even before she was born).

However, she won't go far in life with a massive chip, so far, far better for her to eat huge mouthfuls of humble pie and have a real heart-to-heart with Grand-dad. He may be hurting, too.

Before he's gone and all she has left is regrets.

Amended to add - family feuds can be awful things to cope with and often difficult to understand, whatever age you are. But, two wrongs don't make a right and you can't expect, force or demand affection from anyone, blood relation or not.

Obviously it's a bad time with the OP's other grandad being so unwell but life can be a bummer.

But the title 'get this / for a bit of a giggle'
It made people read it and it's made many feel uncomfortable. Very sad to see a young person so bitter.

[brindlerainbow]

Er worntheshirt read my post, im applauding OB for talking sense im NOT applauding the OP.I though it was pretty obvious as my post was directly under OB's post that I was applauding her.........................

[amumwithapony]

I hurt when I was a kid. No one understood me. I didn't have a pony but worked really, really hard for free rides at the local riding school. All day in the hols and every weekend for 5 years as my grandad couldn't afford riding lesson, let alone a pony.

Not once did I whinge on t'internet or slate my parents or grandparents or anyone else for that matter.

At 16 years old the OP is old enough to understand basic morals and principles and I hope she has a sense of what is right and what is wrong. She is also old enough to use a PC and log into a forum like this. Better she learns on here where no real harm can be done about what is a right thing to say and what is wrong thing to say.

If she doesn't understand why people have gotten cross with her then I would suggest that she uses some of her xmas holidays perhaps volunteering somewhere thats deals with disadvantaged children in one way or another. Then when she has done that if she still feels that she is hard done to only having 1 grandad buying her ponies then she can come and start a post on here about how hard her life is.

Life is hard when you are 16 but I bet she doesn't have the upsets, disappointments and disadvantages that some children have. And I hope the school trip to Normandy will spend sometime in the sites of historical interest where soldiers not much older than her fought and died not so long ago.

[LucyHebditch]

At what point did she say she wanted her grandad to buy her ponies?
At what point did she say she wasn't grateful for what she already had?
She seems a very lucky girl, you're all right! But she hasn't said she doesn't appreciate this.
She simply said that her grandfather is not a very nice person (we're all entitled to our own opinion with our own family member) and the end of the day, she knows him better than we all do, i am sure she is right in everything she said.
She also said that she just wants her grandfather to show more interest, nothing else!
She may have said that he bought her cousins ponies, i think she was just pointing out what he did for them and not for her. She didn't actually mean she wanted him to do the same!
To me this post does not mean she is a spoilt brat at all, or showing a lack of respect! You have to earn respect, if her grandfather hasn't shown her any over the years then why should she do the same for him, child or not.
Everyone is saying how much worse things are happening/have happened to other people and she should be grateful for what she had. If you go back to her OP then you will see that she isn't presenting herself as 'hard done by', she is simply telling us all what her grandfather is like.
Afterall, she has posted in the appropriate place where we are all entitled to moan! This poor girl has now been presented badly as you have all slowly blown it out of proportion.

[iluvmyponies]

OH FOR GOODNESS SAKE! GIVE THIS POOR GIRL A BREAK! IMAGINE IF YOU WERE 16 & TRYING TO MAKE SOME NEW FRIENDS, & END UP GETTING SLATED & SPOKEN TO IN THE WAY SOME OF YOU "ADULTS" HAVE BEEN DOING!

m&mwhp-Stick to the junior area Some of the new topics are getting very interesting ;D

[m&mwhp]

Can someone lock this thread now as i've had enough of being slated off.
Thanks xx

[Jenna]

i think the poor girls had enough of being picked on now, pls give her a rest, it is getting rathe uncomfortable to read

[Onthebit]

I think that is all quite enough.
Have we all forgotten that the poor girl is only 16? Yes, your all allowed an opinion,which is absaloutly fine, but must it all be done so harshly? Do you remeber how you felt and acted at 16?
Stop giving the poor girl such a hard time; yes, perhaps she didnt go about the best way with this thread, and I do agree with several opinions on here, but can we just think a bit more carefully on how we phrase things? It may not sound mean or harsh to you, but words can come across very harsh on the internet.
XX

[lozloz1]

I think that the tone of the things that have been said may have been off at least in some cases, but the general gist is good. Learning to appreciate what you have, especially if you are very well off in comparison to the majority of people (multiple ponies is unattainable for most children), is one of the first steps to becoming a well rounded adult and it is never too early to learn regardless of your age - though some people never gain it I'm sure! All of the candidates on the Junior Apprentice were 16 (or 17) and they behaved better than some of the adults I've seen on it, I find it a bit of a shame that some people think that people that age can't cope with criticism (it's only 4 years since I was 16).

Good luck with things with your grandad and I hope that one day he'll be cheering you on with the rest of your family.