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Post by pipsqueek on Apr 13, 2008 21:34:18 GMT
Hi There I have managed to pluck up the nerve to get on him at a show he has only been backed a few weeks and he is doing great but not having riden in the ring for nearly 20 years i ama little rusty do excuse my oh he is s**t with cameras and dont mind my freind filling her face with a burger i hope this vidio shows never done it before
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Post by Grassy on Apr 14, 2008 8:16:14 GMT
Does he really need a double bridle on so soon? He looks a bit over bitted already.
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Post by ferret on Apr 14, 2008 14:12:59 GMT
you are both doing fab ...its really nerve racking getting aboard after a break ..i did it last year ....good luck
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Post by good luck on Apr 14, 2008 21:48:05 GMT
Wow thats lovely you must be proud! Grassy - What does it matter if its got a double in... it looks fine to me, people really annoy me when they have to have a dig at someone when it has nothing to do with them Pipsqueek he looks lovely and seems to be going v.well good luck for this season xx
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Post by stephjw1 on Apr 14, 2008 22:58:17 GMT
I think he is very well behaved and to say he is only just backed well balanced well done
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Post by titch on Apr 14, 2008 23:23:38 GMT
Going nicely since just been backed but i think the person was saying maybe he would go forward a little more in a different bit. The bit is only as hard or soft as the riders hands though. Once he has found his natural balance the trot will get bigger anyway. Keep up the good work and good luck for your first appearance in the ring!
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Post by shocked on Apr 15, 2008 11:08:23 GMT
Is that a swales he has in?
Ive found alot tend to back off the bit when in the swales and I personally would say that introducing him to a snaffle would give a better outcome in the future, you have to remember its not all about him going lovely with his head pulled in.
he is a beautfiul horse though and im very envious of you. He is lovely!!!!
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Post by bluebell on Apr 15, 2008 11:56:46 GMT
He is lovely i am a big fan of coloureds,we used to have a 14.2 very much like him. Good luck with him!!
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Post by ballaghstud on Apr 15, 2008 12:10:03 GMT
people have different reasons for different bits, not every horse conforms to the norm. And sometimes the bit is for rider benefit. Its personal preference im sure pipsqueek can decide whats best for her and her horse.
Well done pipsquek i love him.
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Post by Grassy on Apr 15, 2008 12:16:55 GMT
Shocked - it does look like a swales to me. This is a very exagerrated action bit that is usually used to correct rather than to train. Far from knocking people, I just think it will ruin a sweet young horse. It is already looking choppy in trot and has its head tied in. It should surely be encouraged to go forward at this age??
Sorry, just giving my opinion as I thought Pipsqueek would want opinions, having posted a video and apologised for her riding.
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Post by ballaghstud on Apr 15, 2008 12:44:21 GMT
this would not be everyones choice, im well aware what a swales actually does and the severe action it has, but you are all unaware to the reasons why the bit has been chosen.
im sure she didnt take the decision of a swales lightly and surely its better to use a strong bit very very lightly with gentle hands rather than yanking and hauling on a ponies mouth in a snaffle with hard hands. causing problems further down the line. Just my oppinion.
And pipsqueek looks a capable enough rider to make her own decison, she did not afterall ask for an oppion on her bit or how to train her horse.
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Post by myhorselizzie on Apr 15, 2008 12:46:16 GMT
I think ballagh is right and For another thing to all you moaning - you should mind your own bloody business!
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Post by ballaghstud on Apr 15, 2008 12:53:04 GMT
lol!! Karma for you! I should have just put that!
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Post by Grassy on Apr 15, 2008 13:02:45 GMT
Sorry - my mistake. I thought that by putting a video on a chat site, you would expect to get comments on it. Sorry I couldn't bring myself to say "What a delightful overall picture. He looks super - keep him nipped up and short in his trot and I am sure he will win plenty".
I would also hope that if a horse was broken correctly its mouth shouldn't need hauling about in a snaffle. It should certainly be mouthed to the point where it is light and responsive before training is taken further.
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Post by ballaghstud on Apr 15, 2008 13:11:24 GMT
I dont know the horse or rider but just sometimes a horse will not accept a snaffle.
also a rider disability or problem is a need to use a different bit.
I wish people would just consider all options before jumping in with a text book way a horse should go. Because not all of them do.
And as usual its guests that are bit*hing, if she wanted an oppinion im sure she would have asked. Most newly broken ponies dont go forwards as we would like it cant all be blamed on the bit.
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Post by Grassy on Apr 15, 2008 13:16:34 GMT
Sorry Ballaghstud, I didn't realise that Pipsqueek had a disability, so as you suggest the bit may have been chosen with that in mind. My apologies.
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Post by ballaghstud on Apr 15, 2008 13:19:10 GMT
i dont know that she has, just a suggestion. Another reason why someone may choose a diff bit to the norm. I dont know the horse or rider.
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Post by pipsqueek on Apr 15, 2008 14:21:47 GMT
thanks guys as it happens i know he was overbent as i am not on walking sticks or a zimmer frame just yet but i do have very week wrists through having being opperated on several times so if he was is a snaffle his head would be on the floor and the swales is only a trial run he is ridden on a loose rein and he is very well mouthed as he has been shown in hand since a foal i will not take affence of what people say i have very broard shoulders i have had to with the job i do all i wanted to do is to see how he rode at the show for the first time
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Post by magpie on Apr 15, 2008 14:56:06 GMT
well i think that he ahs lovely markings, he is sure to go far and as you said he is coming on slowly, p.s love the brummie accent!! he he xxxxxxx
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Post by ponystudwoman on Apr 15, 2008 16:13:06 GMT
Well done to you pipsqueek. It takes real courage to just get on a horse after such a long break let alone an inexperienced animal to boot. You go for it girl!
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Post by Emma_X on Apr 15, 2008 20:47:45 GMT
who cares if hes abit over bent at the moment hes only young!!!
But his beautiful markings make up for it!!! Hes Fab a one to look out for in the future xxx
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Post by bemused on Apr 20, 2008 20:27:10 GMT
I have heard all of the negativities about the swale - but can someone explain to me why my Section C loves it above all bits??
She is generally shown in a waterford pelham, and a waterford hanging cheek in novice classes - she goes OK - but never as happily as in a swales. I have tried a portmouth pelham - went overbent. She is not strong- the bit is not used in a severe way, I have tried to move away from using this bit as I am told it is frowned upon, but keep coming back to the fact that she loves it!! I do agree that it can result in some ponies going overbent etc, and should not be used harshly, but pipsqueeks pony looks to be going well and very relaxed for its first outing so surely this is most important for both pony and jockey.
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Post by myhorselizzie on Apr 21, 2008 18:40:05 GMT
Hes a lovely chap i have to agree - well marked, he'll be fab when hes older!
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Post by magpie on Apr 22, 2008 7:40:22 GMT
I have heard all of the negativities about the swale - but can someone explain to me why my Section C loves it above all bits?? She is generally shown in a waterford pelham, and a waterford hanging cheek in novice classes - she goes OK - but never as happily as in a swales. I have tried a portmouth pelham - went overbent. She is not strong- the bit is not used in a severe way, I have tried to move away from using this bit as I am told it is frowned upon, but keep coming back to the fact that she loves it!! I do agree that it can result in some ponies going overbent etc, and should not be used harshly, but pipsqueeks pony looks to be going well and very relaxed for its first outing so surely this is most important for both pony and jockey. i cant say that ive ever ridden a horse in a swales but i ride my boy in a mylor, apparently thay are for strong ponies/ horses (he is not strong usually ride him in a snaffle!!) but my boy seems to like the lozenge that spins and the little copper bits on the back, he mouths it really well so i think that if they go well in it then us it xxxx
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Post by hooves on Apr 23, 2008 20:27:29 GMT
I must say a very smart chap but I agree with Grassy i'm afraid!!!
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Post by hooves on Apr 23, 2008 20:30:44 GMT
But Well done for riding after a break and Good Luck in the future!!!!
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Post by pop socks on May 22, 2008 7:34:08 GMT
GOING FAB
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Post by pipsqueek on May 22, 2008 22:37:04 GMT
thanks guys he has been to two shows now ridden and come second both times under good judges and when i get my pc fixed i will post some vidio of his first and second show ridden we are off to warrington on monday i am not riding him but i have a good jockey that is watch this space
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