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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 19:40:01 GMT
I have been trying to find out - how to get my mares and foal graded?
Any ideas on which society best to join and grading dates?
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Post by foals on Feb 7, 2011 19:51:21 GMT
Sorry no ideas at all.
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Post by princessstacie22 on Feb 7, 2011 20:13:42 GMT
go to bhhs gradings in sept LP. Or give them a call they are very helpful xx
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Post by dressagemad on Feb 7, 2011 20:20:50 GMT
I would suggest taking your filly to the BEF Futurity at one of the venues local to you. I have a gelding who was taken as a yearling and he coped really well with it apparently. He was quite a late foal so wasn't entered in time for the futurity as a foal but his previous owner still wanted him graded as a yearling. I would definately take your filly as she would do well. She will need to be bitted for this but others will probably be able to advise better than I can as I never took our boy- he went with his previous owner and breeder. I think the BWBS do a summer show but the website hasn't been updated since 2008 so may be worth ringing for more info. www.bwbs.co.uk/mares.htmThe above link is from the British Warmblood Breeders' Studbook website on mare grading for Violet. You could also try ordinary shows but wouldn't have a clue what classes sorry. Good luck with them both and hope you have fun with them in deciding what to do. |
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Post by harrythepig on Feb 7, 2011 20:57:01 GMT
Gradings will be good as she can be shown loose. And we both know how she will enjoy strutting around dont we  |
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Post by holiday on Feb 8, 2011 8:29:46 GMT
Missed this earlier LP, there is also the SHB(GB) to grade Violet with. I use that for my mares, whoever I dont have any warmbloods, the dates usually go on the site spring/summer and are around the country so usually easy to get to.
I would second taking Velvet to the BEF. It would be really good fun and she can strut her stuff loose in the arena!!!!! I would look towards the Sports Horse classes for her at county or local level. It would give her lots of education and a look at life before you back her and want to compete under saddle!!
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Post by sarahp on Feb 8, 2011 8:56:17 GMT
We did the BEF this year for the first time and loved it. But they do have to be civilised and leading well for vet examination and to walk and trot round the triangle - I'm sure Velvet is anyway, but the posts above about it could be misleading. And yes, bitted and plaited, fine for you but if you have some breeds of natives as I do more of a decision as that would preclude later showing in breed classes that year. Really thick lumpy plaits and full feathers would not be a good look!
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Post by meiklekims on Feb 8, 2011 9:11:13 GMT
What society is your mare registered to? They will prob do mare gradings/foal brandings. Other than that, BEF futurity for the youngster, British warmblood society, SHB (GB), Scottish Sports Horse, etc all grade mares and youngstock xxx
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2011 15:31:39 GMT
Brilliant thank you all. When do the BEF schedules come out? I def want to take Velvet to those! xx
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Post by sarahp on Feb 8, 2011 17:05:34 GMT
Don't know but one word of warning - enter quickly when entries open, some venues get filled up VERY quickly, we missed our first choice which was Catherston, probably the nearest to you too I'd think. VERY unpopular with daughter as she had to change her already booked time off work and it meant driving halfway round the M25 to Writtle College instead.
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Post by holiday on Feb 8, 2011 18:36:14 GMT
The dates are on line now and the entries open on line only on 1st June but as sarahp says get entered immediately to secure a place!!!!! I enter the day they open!!!!!  xx Download the dates from this link www.bef.co.uk/British_Breeding/BEF_Futurity.html |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2011 19:42:39 GMT
I got the dates, but couldnt find what classes they are running?
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Post by harrythepig on Feb 8, 2011 20:55:15 GMT
The futurity doesn't run classes as you'd know from showing. You enter the category you feel best describes your youngster- dressage, show jumping, eventing or endurance.The horse is then assessed against the demands of the discipline and her age. If the assessors think you have entered the wrong category they will let you know and move her into the different one. You can also enter 2 categories if you want to.
In addition to being stood up in hand, run up/triangle and shown free, an approved vet will also assess the horse. The marks are then added up and depending on what %score you are awarded the horse is given levels from first premium down.
The 3 year olds have to jump a line over given distances which is useful to practice at home.
I think thats the gist but others can fill in the gaps. In terms of venues in the south you could also get to Plumpton College in East Sussex.
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Post by llew77 on Feb 8, 2011 21:08:52 GMT
LP - a friend of mine may be able to help you if you need advice? www.delarochestud.co.ukLucy is lovley and i'm sure she can help you if you need it x |
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Post by holiday on Feb 8, 2011 21:32:03 GMT
As HTP says, but each age has its own discipline, foals, yearlings, two years three years all include the dressage, SJ, Eventing or endurance whichever your youngster is best suited for.
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Post by dressagemad on Feb 8, 2011 21:38:32 GMT
You can gain an elite, higher first premium, first premium, second premium and third premium depending on overrall score. www.bef.co.uk/Downloads/Futurity%20Predefsnew%202010.pdfAbove is the webpage for the definition of each which also outlines the scores needed in order to be awarded the score for each. |
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Post by princessstacie22 on Feb 8, 2011 22:49:17 GMT
Just remember your bestest little buddy is coming to!!! With her lily! LOL XXXXXXXXXX
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 7:03:51 GMT
As HTP says, but each age has its own discipline, foals, yearlings, two years three years all include the dressage, SJ, Eventing or endurance whichever your youngster is best suited for. Will you let me know when the schedule is out, so I can enter please? My brain is mushy from elephant doses of anti-depressants and I would hate to miss out on entering on time. There are 3 shows in my area, one of which at Crofton which is only 20 minutes away. Is there any point in doing all three? Or do you just do one? |
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Post by sarahp on Feb 9, 2011 8:48:06 GMT
That's one for holiday I think! Thanks for the link above.
Like dressage you are given an individual time slot and all are done one at a time, first the vet and then into indoor school for triangle run ups and loose showing off, you do have to make sure they canter for the judges to see the pace, then you have to catch it again (I worried about this one but he was dying to come back to his mum for reassurance in the scarey environment!) and stand it up in front of the judges while they read out their marks for each individual bit and their comments. The "placings" are available in a list of marks in order on the internet later, but that's not really the point.
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Post by holiday on Feb 9, 2011 9:07:36 GMT
You only go once but you can take youngstock every year up and including its third year. There is no schedule until the opening date in which you select the age, disclipline and venue you would like to attend.
You will in due course get given a time (just before the day) - the BEF e mail you and let you know - plus there is a catalogue that goes on line a couple of days previous, which gives information of all the horses entered, times, breeding and what section. The sections usually run from foals to 3 years in that order usually dressage, sj, event then endurance through each age group.
Your first time is usually about 8 mins before your second time - 1st is for the vet where conformation, health score (weight etc) limbs are assessed then a walk away and back and the same in trot. The vets are very patient and will let you try to get the best run up you can.
The next time is for your assessment usually in front of either 2 or 3 evaluators. You walk the triangle, trot the triangle then show your horse loose in all gaits. Catch the horse up then are assessed for conformation.
You are then given a score Elite is the highest, down to third premium, and the horse is spoken about and the opinion of the evaluators given over a microphone. You will then be awarded a rosette of which premium you have been given. There are also sheets given out at the office with all comments written on them for each part of the assesment.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 9, 2011 9:31:00 GMT
Looks as if I could be taking two then this year, yearling and 2yo, if daughter's up for it. Haven't the energy to take foals, they are chilling out in the field almost untouched at that age, and not very old either. A special cheer for the super vet we had last year, she was brill. Thanks for the info' holiday, again.
LP, I went off to watch one before I did ours, very worth while if you can manage it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 11:07:08 GMT
Thanks for all that info. Do I need to become a member?
If I do, will they email me the details of the show entry procedure or do you just have to watch the website?
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Post by holiday on Feb 9, 2011 11:29:23 GMT
No you have no need to become a member, the entries are only on-line from 1st June and it is up to those wishing to participate to enter at that point. It is a step by step guide and very easy to enter. You only need your passport so you can get your numbers from it for youngster and parents.
Dress code is white trousers white shirt and white trainers for runners.
Yearlings, brood mares and above a snaffle bridle only (although a brood mare could go in something else if needed) and foals in a leather slip.
You need easy release to lead with as of course you do show them loose so I put a clip on the end of my leather lead ropes so I can just loose them and a newmarket chain or similar on the mares not reins as they are difficult to get undone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 14:33:49 GMT
Brilliant thanks, have put the date in my diary xx
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Post by harrythepig on Feb 9, 2011 20:33:57 GMT
I can get the diva and her bestest buddy practicising doing some loose and in hand work when its a bit warmer!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 7:28:59 GMT
Velvet doesnt need lessons in prancing and showing off Nor does her mother LOL xx |
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Post by harrythepig on Feb 10, 2011 9:31:20 GMT
Technical term is 'restraining the enthusiasm' You will find it included towards the bottom of most rule books. |
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Post by holiday on Feb 10, 2011 10:43:07 GMT
Just to clarify. Violet would not be able to attend without a foal at foot as it is only for youngstock. However if Velvet received a 1st premium or above Violet would be awarded a brood mare diploma.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 19:24:54 GMT
OK, thanks Holiday - I think just taking Diva Velvet will be enough for one day |
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