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Post by Guestless on Mar 3, 2011 12:11:06 GMT
Please add your thoughts on this. Feel free to ask any questions, but have a read of the thread in case your question has already been asked.
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Post by drea on Mar 3, 2011 21:37:55 GMT
when my sec 'A' was gettin PD it was only a blood test i got done on recomendation of my vet because of her size but my cobs and clydesdales i usualy get scaned
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Post by holiday on Mar 6, 2011 8:57:32 GMT
We have all of our horses scanned for pregnancy and scanned for twins of which one is pinched out if these prove to be positive.
We are lucky that we have a small lady vet who is able to scan the small mares safely so dont have to worry regarding little people!!!
It is down to personal preference if the mares have run with the stallion but for me it is critical that I know either way and also to date the pregnancy if needbe, although in general anything ran out with our stallions we will have seen covered so have a good idea of dates.
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Post by FF on Mar 6, 2011 9:57:35 GMT
My mare was scanned three times. 1st two times not in foal so I am glad that I did otherwise I would have a mare who isn't pregnant right now and would have to go through it all over again and wait another year. I only have one mare so having her scanned was important to me. If I had a few maybe I would just take pot luck on who would be pregnant and who wouldn't be. The mare that went with my girl was also scanned but isn't infoal so will go back early this year. If she hadn't been scanned we'd still be waiting to see if she was.
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Post by elmere on Mar 6, 2011 10:04:16 GMT
My mare was scanned three times. 1st two times not in foal so I am glad that I did otherwise I would have a mare who isn't pregnant right now and would have to go through it all over again and wait another year. I only have one mare so having her scanned was important to me. If I had a few maybe I would just take pot luck on who would be pregnant and who wouldn't be. The mare that went with my girl was also scanned but isn't infoal so will go back early this year. If she hadn't been scanned we'd still be waiting to see if she was. Surely you would know if the mares wernt in foal by watching to see if they come back in season.
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Post by holiday on Mar 6, 2011 10:14:12 GMT
Absolutely however I would not know if twins were present!!!! I believe Fabfern sent her mare away to stud so she would maybe not see if the mare came back in season if she has no others about at home!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2011 10:34:11 GMT
My mare was scanned three times. 1st two times not in foal so I am glad that I did otherwise I would have a mare who isn't pregnant right now and would have to go through it all over again and wait another year. I only have one mare so having her scanned was important to me. If I had a few maybe I would just take pot luck on who would be pregnant and who wouldn't be. The mare that went with my girl was also scanned but isn't infoal so will go back early this year. If she hadn't been scanned we'd still be waiting to see if she was. Surely you would know if the mares wernt in foal by watching to see if they come back in season. Lots of mares, never show any signs of being in season - my mare included She had a foal last year and was AI ed again, but scanned not in foal. Then scanned 2nd scan in foal, then scanned 3rd scan, no heartbeat - so not in foal.. However - she has a very low slung belly, despite being under saddle again - so I am watching her carefully. Everyone says - you will "know" if she doesnt come in season - But she never does show
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Post by FF on Mar 6, 2011 19:49:35 GMT
My mare was scanned three times. 1st two times not in foal so I am glad that I did otherwise I would have a mare who isn't pregnant right now and would have to go through it all over again and wait another year. I only have one mare so having her scanned was important to me. If I had a few maybe I would just take pot luck on who would be pregnant and who wouldn't be. The mare that went with my girl was also scanned but isn't infoal so will go back early this year. If she hadn't been scanned we'd still be waiting to see if she was. True but my mare doesn't show and the other isn't mine. I'd rather be 100% sure she was so could try again asap instead of waiting and seeing if she came back into season or not. Time was against me and I wanted to be sure. Having paid £250 for a vet package I made sure I got my moneys worth and so did my girl with 3 attempts ;D Surely you would know if the mares wernt in foal by watching to see if they come back in season.
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Post by tigger on Mar 6, 2011 20:41:21 GMT
I have had a mare show in season (including backing up to other horses + squirting at them!) all through a pregnancy - and another one not show at all even when teased in hand - so for me scanning has proved to be essential, I couldn't have relied upon if they showed in season or not.
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Post by Guestless on Mar 7, 2011 10:38:10 GMT
There is something really touching when you get a heartbeat scan done and it's nice to get the first pic of baby (even if it does just look like a blob!)
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Post by cayo on Jul 5, 2011 7:23:13 GMT
we are going back for a heartbeat scan on friday hope foaly is still there very tence time we have never managed to get her pregnant before
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Post by hursty100 on Jul 6, 2011 9:55:46 GMT
I had my mare covered at the end of april. I caught her bang on, but when i brought her home she came back into season and was the field trollop again! she came back in season twise and i really didnt think she had taken as it was her first time. But we had the vet out the other day to doa scan and she was 2months preggie! I was really pleased- but i put her in foal to calm her down, not make her worse
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Post by amanda on Sept 13, 2011 0:36:05 GMT
sorry for late question folks ! if a mare is scanned in foal at 24 days a) would a twin show up and B) when would a heartbeat be present ? how many scans do you all do ?
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Post by Guestless on Sept 26, 2011 10:36:41 GMT
Yes to both your questions volturi - I believe it is from 24 days onwards that the heartbeat is usually visible. No of scans I do depends on the circumstances, just one at 24 days would do if I had no plans to recover mare if she hadn't taken, but an earlier one would let me plan for taking mare back to stud if necessary.
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Post by xxveronicaxx on Oct 12, 2011 16:06:19 GMT
1 of my mares was scanned def not in foal...... the following may she gave me a fab cream filly.... when blood test come back as neg its 100% correct, when they come back as positive that can be wrong and be negative
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Post by mady on May 5, 2012 13:06:21 GMT
We have just picked my mare up from stud and scanned safely in foal hehe so chuffed. Only a lifetime to wait now :-(
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Post by dizzy on Jun 5, 2012 13:58:29 GMT
I have a maiden mare who was covered in April, she hasn't been seen to return so will be having her scanned in a couple of weeks. We have however noticed she is now trying to cover all the other mares when they come into season, could this be the change in hormones if she is in foal?
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 13, 2013 14:38:26 GMT
My mare went away to be AI'd - we dropped her off and she came home after her heartbeat scan ... being away enabled her to be scanned daily and obviously with AI’ing timing is very important – she did have one twin popped at the 14 days scan and there were problems at her 28 day scan due to there not being enough fluid surrounding the fetus … this was monitored again until it corrected itself and she then came home. She’s now 8.5 months and very big with a very wiggly little foal cooking nicely x
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Post by bubbles1822 on May 6, 2015 23:12:08 GMT
My mare went away to be AI'd - we dropped her off and she came home after her heartbeat scan ... being away enabled her to be scanned daily and obviously with AI’ing timing is very important – she did have one twin popped at the 14 days scan and there were problems at her 28 day scan due to there not being enough fluid surrounding the fetus … this was monitored again until it corrected itself and she then came home. She’s now 8.5 months and very big with a very wiggly little foal cooking nicely x Do you think AI would have a higher chance of twins (like humans I assume they insert more than one embryo) Are natural twins common?
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on May 7, 2015 5:52:45 GMT
My mare went away to be AI'd - we dropped her off and she came home after her heartbeat scan ... being away enabled her to be scanned daily and obviously with AI’ing timing is very important – she did have one twin popped at the 14 days scan and there were problems at her 28 day scan due to there not being enough fluid surrounding the fetus … this was monitored again until it corrected itself and she then came home. She’s now 8.5 months and very big with a very wiggly little foal cooking nicely x Do you think AI would have a higher chance of twins (like humans I assume they insert more than one embryo) Are natural twins common? You are thinking about ET (embryo transfer). I think, though I do not know this for sure and I am sure someone will correct me, that they only implant one embryo which is why it is such an expensive option. Horses don't produce the amount of eggs that cattle and sheep do where it is a common occurrence to produce an ET animal and also kore common to produce multiple births. AI is just artificial insemination, ie impregnating the mare without the use of a stallion.
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Post by bubbles1822 on May 7, 2015 6:13:06 GMT
Yes your right my mistake!
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Post by sarahp on May 7, 2015 6:17:31 GMT
Twins are not common in horses, although they do occur, and the rate of twinning varies according to breed - more common in TBs. This may be due to the fact that more TB twins conceived will have one pinched out by the vet, so leaving more mares alive and well who genetically tend to twin to carry on and breed. In other breeds without as much vet input twins often do not survive, and if they do may be small so twin born mares may well not be bred from. Natural selection dictating against twins in action! All natural equine twins are fraternal, ie born from two different eggs, and not identical, ie born from one embryo that splits as can happen in humans.
In Artificial Insemination semen, either fresh, chilled or frozen, is inserted into the uterus of the mare at a time determined by lots of scans to be the best for conception. I very much doubt if a mare would be inseminated at all if she had two follicles maturing to release eggs.
I very much doubt if they would implant two embryos in equine ET, and I don't think they do for humans any more in the UK do they? Not my area!
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