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Post by teri on May 14, 2011 12:57:14 GMT
Hi Teri Perhaps you could try hiding the tablets in green tripe that you usually get in pet shops. Its smelly but dogs usually like eating it Good luck x Never thought of this will give it a go thank you!! x |
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Post by teri on May 14, 2011 12:59:20 GMT
dairylea triangles and raw tripe for dinner,never had a dog who will not eat it and we have a boarding kennels. Tried dairylea, she does not like - such fussy mare  lindipops also suggested tripe, I will get some and see what she makes of it, she has only ever had tripe in her dog food (canned) so def worth a try, thank you!! x |
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Post by Auntycath on May 14, 2011 13:57:11 GMT
Have you tried rabbit? Either raw or cooked? Our labrador had a very serious road accident at 18months and was completely unable to use both front legs for several weeks owing to several fractures, nerve damage and some paralysis. He went right off his food, and an old gamekeeper we know suggested rabbit, which Fin took to immediately. Luckily we had an endless supply off the farm and friends also brought us them to go in the freezer.
It might be worth a try, as the texture is very like chicken, but with stronger flavour, and it has really good protein levels which help repair damaged tissue. If you can manage the bleughy side of it, see if any vermin controllers near you would let you buy rabbits off them, and be cheeky and ask them to skin them for you! You just boil it in water in a big stock pot. You do need to go through it with your fingers to sift out the small bones though - and if you do this, wear surgical gloves, as it's quite a strong smelling meat.
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Post by dougal on May 15, 2011 16:20:19 GMT
Don't know if your girlie likes Jaffa cakes ( not very good for them I know but in emergencies......lol ) but when my pony wouldn't take her bute I'd cut one open and put the bute inside and she ate it with no probs, easier with a capsule though! Really hope you find a way to get through this as it must be so stressful for you both.  At least if Jade doesn't like jaffa cakes they're nicely edible for humans! Lol Lots of luck! xx |
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Post by Auntycath on May 15, 2011 17:02:09 GMT
Don't know if your girlie likes Jaffa cakes ( not very good for them I know but in emergencies......lol ) I hate to sound a wet blanket, but chocolate can be lethal for dogs, and not only if ingested in large quantities; if her health is compromised by being on strong chemo drugs, this might be more risky than you can dare. |
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Post by dougal on May 15, 2011 18:16:46 GMT
Only suggested as Teri has already tried mars bars so jaffa cakes may not work anyway .
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Post by kayjayem on May 15, 2011 18:29:44 GMT
Has anything worked yet??
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Post by teri on May 17, 2011 11:15:00 GMT
Have you tried rabbit? Either raw or cooked? Our labrador had a very serious road accident at 18months and was completely unable to use both front legs for several weeks owing to several fractures, nerve damage and some paralysis. He went right off his food, and an old gamekeeper we know suggested rabbit, which Fin took to immediately. Luckily we had an endless supply off the farm and friends also brought us them to go in the freezer. It might be worth a try, as the texture is very like chicken, but with stronger flavour, and it has really good protein levels which help repair damaged tissue. If you can manage the bleughy side of it, see if any vermin controllers near you would let you buy rabbits off them, and be cheeky and ask them to skin them for you! You just boil it in water in a big stock pot. You do need to go through it with your fingers to sift out the small bones though - and if you do this, wear surgical gloves, as it's quite a strong smelling meat. Thank you! Hope your boy is fully recovered, poor lad must have been awful!! Will def try Rabbit, never thought of that, I will pop to lacal butchers and see what they have. XX |
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Post by teri on May 17, 2011 11:16:16 GMT
Don't know if your girlie likes Jaffa cakes ( not very good for them I know but in emergencies......lol ) but when my pony wouldn't take her bute I'd cut one open and put the bute inside and she ate it with no probs, easier with a capsule though! Really hope you find a way to get through this as it must be so stressful for you both. At least if Jade doesn't like jaffa cakes they're nicely edible for humans! Lol Lots of luck! xx Have not tried jaffa cakes but will give it a go, hubby loves them so they won't go to waste. Thank you x |
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Post by teri on May 17, 2011 11:18:02 GMT
Don't know if your girlie likes Jaffa cakes ( not very good for them I know but in emergencies......lol ) I hate to sound a wet blanket, but chocolate can be lethal for dogs, and not only if ingested in large quantities; if her health is compromised by being on strong chemo drugs, this might be more risky than you can dare. I spoke to the vet and she said if its the only way to get her to eat it then go with it!! I have stopped all her pain killers that where tablet form so it is just one chemo tablet a day so such small quantity of choc any way!! x |
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Post by teri on May 17, 2011 11:23:29 GMT
Has anything worked yet?? Well taking tablets are hit and miss! Have stopped all the pain killers that are tablet form and she actually seems happier! Chemo tablet has been going down with a bit of mars bar but she is now getting suspicous of that too so will have to try something else soon. Still have lots of foods to try for dinners, after some great suggestions on here, only thing she eats is either tesco finest beef topside slices, or fresh chunks sandwhich chicken, not the slices tho!! Can't belive how fussy she is. Tyler the dobbie is in heaven as all the new meats etc we buy that she aon't eat, he gets, so he is loving it!! Jade won't eat out of her bowl either now, will only eat what has been left on her bed! Dazycutter had great idea and suggested serving her food on a dinner plate, so going to try that tonight. Discovered she loves chinese spare ribs though!! so have to stock up on those ;D xx |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 12:18:50 GMT
Teri what a nightmare for you! Some really great suggestions though - Chinese spare ribs lol!! Good luck with it all xx
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Post by teri on May 17, 2011 12:22:42 GMT
Teri what a nightmare for you! Some really great suggestions though - Chinese spare ribs lol!! Good luck with it all xx I know!! thought she was only eating chicken as she could only stomache bland food, chinese spare ribs smothered in bbq sauce hardley bland!!  Think she may be milking it just a tad ;D On the positive since taken her off the pain killers she is much more back to her normal happy self, think they where so strong they made her a bit sleepy. |
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Post by Auntycath on May 17, 2011 12:36:48 GMT
Fairynuff about the chocolate - I guess I am just a bit knee-jerk about it after a close friend lost a foxhound who stole a few Cadbury's Roses one Christmas. I certainly "get" that if it works, it's worth a try!
Also, have you tried cat food? All my boys will turn themselves inside out for cat food, and it's what we used to move Fin back from a diet of pure rabbit to normal dog food - he particularly liked Felix beef flavour, in the sachets! It's not great for them nutritionally (not balanced for dogs) but as an alternative measure, I am reading from the posts here that you will try anything - quite rightly!
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Post by teri on May 17, 2011 12:55:12 GMT
Fairynuff about the chocolate - I guess I am just a bit knee-jerk about it after a close friend lost a foxhound who stole a few Cadbury's Roses one Christmas. I certainly "get" that if it works, it's worth a try! Also, have you tried cat food? All my boys will turn themselves inside out for cat food, and it's what we used to move Fin back from a diet of pure rabbit to normal dog food - he particularly liked Felix beef flavour, in the sachets! It's not great for them nutritionally (not balanced for dogs) but as an alternative measure, I am reading from the posts here that you will try anything - quite rightly! How awful, choc is a funny thing, I don't really understand why it is so bad for dogs, i mean why it is actually so dangerous for them, my hubby asways gives my two some of his chocolate biscuits most eves and tyler is 12 and as you know jade is 10, and they are still alive, I always have a go at him about doing this!! And somone elsepointed out grapes are also poisionous but tyler used to eat them by the bunch load until I found that out. Not tried cat food, she did actually pinch our yard cats brekki the other morning so could be worth a try, thank you!! x |
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Post by Auntycath on May 17, 2011 13:10:04 GMT
It's the theobromine in chocolate that's dangerous. Anyone interested can get the heads-up from here: www.vetrica.com/care/dog/chocolate.shtmlIt's very true that grapes - and raisins and sultanas - can be toxic for dogs but I don't think anyone yet knows why, and there's no specific guidelines as to what dose is potentially dangerous. Whatever it is, it can cause renal damage and sometimes failure; from my own research (after an episode of paranoia!) I'm aware of a 9 kilo dachshund dying as a direct result of eating 5 grapes. Any food containing these ingredients should be avoided for dogs, so apart from the grapes/raisins/sultanas themselves, be aware of foodstuffs like fruit cake, Garibaldi biscuits, rum 'n' raisin ice cream etc. Onions and their relations in the Allium family (shallots, garlic, chives) can be toxic, as can macadamia nuts. |
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Post by teri on May 17, 2011 13:36:33 GMT
It's the theobromine in chocolate that's dangerous. Anyone interested can get the heads-up from here: www.vetrica.com/care/dog/chocolate.shtmlIt's very true that grapes - and raisins and sultanas - can be toxic for dogs but I don't think anyone yet knows why, and there's no specific guidelines as to what dose is potentially dangerous. Whatever it is, it can cause renal damage and sometimes failure; from my own research (after an episode of paranoia!) I'm aware of a 9 kilo dachshund dying as a direct result of eating 5 grapes. Any food containing these ingredients should be avoided for dogs, so apart from the grapes/raisins/sultanas themselves, be aware of foodstuffs like fruit cake, Garibaldi biscuits, rum 'n' raisin ice cream etc. Onions and their relations in the Allium family (shallots, garlic, chives) can be toxic, as can macadamia nuts. Thanks angel will take a read!! and thank you for the info on onions and grapes! amazing really you think, its safe for me, must be safe for my dog. Was similar feeling when someone suggested raw chicken for jade my first raction 'my god no!!!' but it is actually safe for them, my problem is I really do think of them as my kids and not as animals! Stupid mare i am |
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Post by teri on May 17, 2011 13:39:55 GMT
Just read the link, having secon thoughts about the mars bar now!!!
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Post by soph123 on May 17, 2011 16:27:26 GMT
We used to have to pretend to drop some of our dinner on the floor usually a chip or a cube of steak then act as if your trying to get it away from them, i suppose would only work if she likes to be cheeky. Good luck i know how heart breaking it can be our dog had the same thing, if only you could tell them that they were good for them!!
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Post by teri on May 18, 2011 10:19:35 GMT
We used to have to pretend to drop some of our dinner on the floor usually a chip or a cube of steak then act as if your trying to get it away from them, i suppose would only work if she likes to be cheeky. Good luck i know how heart breaking it can be our dog had the same thing, if only you could tell them that they were good for them!! Thank you!! Yes this will work with the odd scrap will get some steak tonight try it with that and see how much can get her to eat. Tried her on Rice pudding last night but she wasn't interested!! Again just a packet of chicken and half a jumbone! Going to get rome ribs tonight see if she will eat tesco brought ones instead of chinese ones!! and also some rabbit, been told thats worth a try x |
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Post by ukshowing on May 18, 2011 15:30:12 GMT
Corned beef for me and mine, squash the tablet into the corned beef, and roll into a ball.
enough to cover the tablet, the corned beef stays stuck all round the tablet. (unlike ham)
Give the dog a corned beef ball with no tablet first. Yum Yum gobbles down c. beef ball with tablet, without touching the sides.
Works for both mine.
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Post by Fiontar on May 18, 2011 18:24:07 GMT
Thanks angel will take a read!! and thank you for the info on onions and grapes! amazing really you think, its safe for me, must be safe for my dog. Was similar feeling when someone suggested raw chicken for jade my first raction 'my god no!!!' but it is actually safe for them, my problem is I really do think of them as my kids and not as animals! Stupid mare i am [/quote] Can you get some raw chicken carcasses, bones and all and mince it, or ask a butcher to do it for you, will do her no harm at all. If you have got her to ten years old you have done very well , I have an 8year old Rottie bit*h too, they do seem to be prone to cancer. |
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Post by vickilivesey on May 18, 2011 22:49:34 GMT
You could try raw pet mince roll it into balls and put the tablets inside or if you don't do raw food (I raw feed all my dogs and they never refuse anything)
you could try chicken/fish paste (out of jars) on some bread or there is a great natural cooked food called nature diet-have you tried it? most dogs like that!
I had a dog with addisons and he needed about 14 tablets a day, sometimes when he went into crisis he wouldn't eat anything so I had to open his mouth and push the tablets down his throat otherwise he wouldn't get better :-( sometimes I
would cook rice with chicken and gravy and make a bit of a mush and crumble the tablets into that. One thing I never gave him was cat food as it is supposed to be very bad for dogs and upsets their digestive system as it is too rich.
I hope you can find something that your dog will eat- you have my sympathy it's so stressful when you can't get their medication into them. Good luck :-)
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Post by teri on May 19, 2011 10:01:23 GMT
Corned beef for me and mine, squash the tablet into the corned beef, and roll into a ball. enough to cover the tablet, the corned beef stays stuck all round the tablet. (unlike ham) Give the dog a corned beef ball with no tablet first. Yum Yum gobbles down c. beef ball with tablet, without touching the sides. Works for both mine. She did eat a little corned beef the other day so I could give it a try! and yes def try without tablet first. Thank you x |
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Post by teri on May 19, 2011 10:03:02 GMT
Can you get some raw chicken carcasses, bones and all and mince it, or ask a butcher to do it for you, will do her no harm at all. If you have got her to ten years old you have done very well , I have an 8year old Rottie bit*h too, they do seem to be prone to cancer.[/quote]
Thank you! yes I have read up so much and it does seem to be the case! Will try the raw chicken idea and see what she makes of it!! xx
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Post by teri on May 19, 2011 10:07:36 GMT
You could try raw pet mince roll it into balls and put the tablets inside or if you don't do raw food (I raw feed all my dogs and they never refuse anything) you could try chicken/fish paste (out of jars) on some bread or there is a great natural cooked food called nature diet-have you tried it? most dogs like that! I had a dog with addisons and he needed about 14 tablets a day, sometimes when he went into crisis he wouldn't eat anything so I had to open his mouth and push the tablets down his throat otherwise he wouldn't get better :-( sometimes I would cook rice with chicken and gravy and make a bit of a mush and crumble the tablets into that. One thing I never gave him was cat food as it is supposed to be very bad for dogs and upsets their digestive system as it is too rich. I hope you can find something that your dog will eat- you have my sympathy it's so stressful when you can't get their medication into them. Good luck :-) Never heard of nature diet will have a read up on it! She was eating a tiny bit of chicken and rice, but all she will eat now is strips of really soft moist chicken, they have to be left on her bed so she will eat them when she is ready, she won't eat anything out of her dog bowl. She did pinch the yard cats brekki this morning which I was pleased about, but you say cat food is bad for them? I never realised this so maybe not such a good thing after all!!! Going to cook up some chinese ribs tonight an hope she will eat a few of those, hopefully the bone will be good for her. Thank you for your message xx |
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Post by supes on May 20, 2011 0:22:23 GMT
Hi Teri,
I`m really sorry but I`ve only just seen this posting of yours and I have to say, I went through EXACTLY the same thing with my Jazzy when she was ill...feeding her became a nightmare and I used to dread it as she got so suspicious of everything- I`ve seen mealtimes when I`ve cooked her chicken, liver, sausages, steak, not to mention giving her Caesars finest dogfood range, cheese, biscuits, mincedmeat...you name it! In the end I found the least fuss I made over feeding her, the better, so rather than trying to handfeed her different feeds to get her med`s down, I`d hide the tabs in whatever food she was having that day and put it on one of our plates, I would then prepare another plate of food with no tabs in (again on one of our plates), take it into our lounge where Jon and I eat, shut the door behind me, stay in there for five minutes, walk out with the two plates and put one on the floor for Diesel first (the one with no meds in!) and then put the other one down in the other half of the kitchen for Jazzy and she would eat it nine times out of ten as she thought it was our leftovers and that Diesel was eating it too...try not to make much fuss of handfeeding her as that`s where I went wrong! Also I found that Hills Prescription Diet a/d was execllent for hiding tabs in and feeding her as it`s very palatable...you will get that from your vet or most good Pet Stores! I wish you the very best of luck as I know how frustrating it is, hope your girl is continuing to do well and will send you a private message tomorrow, lots of love, Debs xx
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Post by teri on May 20, 2011 13:33:32 GMT
Hi Teri, I`m really sorry but I`ve only just seen this posting of yours and I have to say, I went through EXACTLY the same thing with my Jazzy when she was ill...feeding her became a nightmare and I used to dread it as she got so suspicious of everything- I`ve seen mealtimes when I`ve cooked her chicken, liver, sausages, steak, not to mention giving her Caesars finest dogfood range, cheese, biscuits, mincedmeat...you name it! In the end I found the least fuss I made over feeding her, the better, so rather than trying to handfeed her different feeds to get her med`s down, I`d hide the tabs in whatever food she was having that day and put it on one of our plates, I would then prepare another plate of food with no tabs in (again on one of our plates), take it into our lounge where Jon and I eat, shut the door behind me, stay in there for five minutes, walk out with the two plates and put one on the floor for Diesel first (the one with no meds in!) and then put the other one down in the other half of the kitchen for Jazzy and she would eat it nine times out of ten as she thought it was our leftovers and that Diesel was eating it too...try not to make much fuss of handfeeding her as that`s where I went wrong! Also I found that Hills Prescription Diet a/d was execllent for hiding tabs in and feeding her as it`s very palatable...you will get that from your vet or most good Pet Stores! I wish you the very best of luck as I know how frustrating it is, hope your girl is continuing to do well and will send you a private message tomorrow, lots of love, Debs xx Thanks Debs, xx I have stopped hand feeding, you where right about that one!! Tried putting a plate on floor and leaving but she is such good girl she won't touch anything from our plates!! I am now leaving food on her bed which seems to be working, she ate a whole rack of baby ribs and a little cheese last night so I was over the moon. Taken her off all her meds apart from the chemo tablet and her liqiud pain killer and she actually seems better than ever! Think the strong pain killers where doing more harm than good. She is much more aleart and is virtually not limping at all!! And the fact that she ate quite well last night makes me think the pain killers must have made her quite groggy. Will see how things go and hope she stays as she is for the rest of her days, untill the time comes I just have to spoil her rotten xxxx |
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Post by dazycutter on May 20, 2011 18:04:40 GMT
Good news Teri..... spoil her rotton.....
the night I had my beautiful Bollinger PTS, I fed her a massive bar of dairy milk.... she loved it, but I agree, I never feed at all normaly it as it is pretty nasty for dogs...
this may be a really silly question, but can you not give her the pills in the normal way.. ie open her mouth, stick them at the back of her throat, close mouth and rub ....I am sure you probably have tried... sorry... just clutching at straws...
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Post by sanlirra on May 20, 2011 20:17:28 GMT
aww sorry to hear about your lovely dog, have you tried putting the tablet in some pate x
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