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Post by keyhole on May 29, 2011 15:38:39 GMT
Hi,
Wanting a stud name, name must be Welsh in origin.
Foundation stallion is a dark sooty palamino any ideas, with £50 going to nominated charity of the person providing the chosen name.
I also have to explain that we will not be breeding indiscriminately, there are to many unwanted horses at the moment & 10% of the stud fee will be going to local horse charities.
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Post by leevale on May 29, 2011 16:25:54 GMT
"twll clo" is Welsh for keyhole, but you would have to use it all as one word to register the prefix - "Twllclo"
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Post by caz77 on May 30, 2011 18:55:00 GMT
Where abouts are you? Maybe able to get some inspiration from surrounding place names.
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Post by keyhole on May 30, 2011 19:42:36 GMT
West Yorks, base at Hill Top Farm, very windy area ideal for ponies with sweet ich
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Post by caz77 on May 30, 2011 20:53:35 GMT
Fryniau means hills so that has got something to do with the name of your farm or Hyfryd means lovely which I think would be a nice prefix.
Both of those seem to be available as prefixes.
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Post by FF on May 30, 2011 20:58:15 GMT
Hopw much is it to register a prefix? Sorry I have no ideas on names. Some good suggestions though.
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Post by julamrmoney on May 30, 2011 21:02:43 GMT
As a Welsh speaker I am more than happy to help - you will need to be careful as Welsh is a beautiful but complex language and the letter at the begining of a word can depend on what word it follows . Will have a think and post some ideas here are a few to start -
Swn y gwynt - sound of the wind Llais y gwynt - voice of the wind Can y gwynt - song of the wind / The wind's song Pen y bryn - top of the hill
My daughters suggestion - Can y ...... / song of the ..... you could then call each foal after a bird so you would then for exampleshave Can y drew / song of the Wren.
Not sure how you check if these are available
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Post by melyniog on May 30, 2011 21:08:16 GMT
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Post by ladymuckpicker on May 31, 2011 7:04:01 GMT
Gwyntog ....... Welsh for windy
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Post by CarolineNelson on May 31, 2011 11:17:02 GMT
As a Welsh speaker I am more than happy to help - you will need to be careful as Welsh is a beautiful but complex language and the letter at the begining of a word can depend on what word it follows . Will have a think and post some ideas here are a few to start - Swn y gwynt - sound of the wind Llais y gwynt - voice of the wind Can y gwynt - song of the wind / The wind's song Pen y bryn - top of the hill My daughters suggestion - Can y ...... / song of the ..... you could then call each foal after a bird so you would then for exampleshave Can y drew / song of the Wren. Not sure how you check if these are available When the OP says they want a "SUD" (S Tud??) name, one presumes they mean a Prefix, rather than a different farm name for the property. If the former is the case, then once you have a shortlist of ideas, simply contact the Central Prefix Register (CPR) - the helpful Secretary Gina Dent will check for you if your choice is in use and registered to someone else or not. Your prefix, once registered with the WPCS and the CPR will then not be able to be used by anyone else. centralprefixreg@aol.com
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Post by gretel on Jun 1, 2011 19:42:02 GMT
Caerefrog is York Efrog is also used by itself as York Brynefrog - Yorkhill the 'f' is soft like the English 'v' the 'E' is an 'eh' sound. So Efrog is pronounced 'Ehvrog' and Brynefrog pronounced 'Brinehvrog'
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Post by suziq77 on Jun 3, 2011 9:44:17 GMT
Love the "Can y ...... " idea - I used to have a pony who's breeder called all of that year's foals after birds. My pony was "Capercaillie" after the stud prefix which I thought was a beautiful name.
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Post by rhydygrug on Jun 3, 2011 10:08:30 GMT
Hopw much is it to register a prefix? Sorry I have no ideas on names. Some good suggestions though. With the WPCS its about £70 if your a member or £100 if your not I think its around the same whether or not its with the WPCS, but im not certain
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Post by heathers on Jun 3, 2011 21:18:12 GMT
gwyntuchaf = high wind gwynt = wind uchaf = high, highest, superior
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Post by jump4joy on Jun 4, 2011 8:36:04 GMT
Bryntor............. ? You are best contacting Central Prefix Register...then you can apply to have your chosen name overstamped and recognised with other society i.e. NPS, Sports Pony, PBA, Chaps if you breed any other types and they are all listed on you Prefix/Suffix certificate.........Good Luck with your new stud!!
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Post by jump4joy on Jun 4, 2011 8:54:57 GMT
A little bit of history regarding naming after birds...Tilston Stud Cheshire, breeder of fab welsh B's and part-breds owner the late great Major Nicholson named all his ponies after birds...we used to break and have a lot of ponies for him in the 80's and 90's...Tilston Chickaw qualified Daily Mail S/J family challenge that used to be at Hickstead, 5th in pony British Novice S/J final the only 12.2 in top 6, won loads of P.C events(sold to Sam Roberts when she was still in ponies if she remembers her first WHP i recall) I recall Sam winning some national points accumalator with him...Tilston Raven in top 10 money earning 13.2 jumping ponies, Tilston Mistlethrush amazing alround mare by Anne Bale-Williams great B stallion Baledon Commanchero, went back to the Major and bred some amazing competition ponies..........just don't see the Tilston ponies around anymore....i last saw a mention of Cheeky ( Tilston Chickaw forgotton how to spelt it now) in the Warwickshire area but he would be in his late teens now and Raven last saw her jumping at Scope...if anyone knows more please let me know....................
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Post by armada on Jun 4, 2011 11:17:54 GMT
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Post by tilstonponies on Feb 22, 2017 16:53:39 GMT
A little bit of history regarding naming after birds...Tilston Stud Cheshire, breeder of fab welsh B's and part-breds owner the late great Major Nicholson named all his ponies after birds...we used to break and have a lot of ponies for him in the 80's and 90's...Tilston Chickaw qualified Daily Mail S/J family challenge that used to be at Hickstead, 5th in pony British Novice S/J final the only 12.2 in top 6, won loads of P.C events(sold to Sam Roberts when she was still in ponies if she remembers her first WHP i recall) I recall Sam winning some national points accumalator with him...Tilston Raven in top 10 money earning 13.2 jumping ponies, Tilston Mistlethrush amazing alround mare by Anne Bale-Williams great B stallion Baledon Commanchero, went back to the Major and bred some amazing competition ponies..........just don't see the Tilston ponies around anymore....i last saw a mention of Cheeky ( Tilston Chickaw forgotton how to spelt it now) in the Warwickshire area but he would be in his late teens now and Raven last saw her jumping at Scope...if anyone knows more please let me know....................
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Post by tilstonponies on Feb 22, 2017 17:01:31 GMT
I am the daughter of Major Nicolson and I am also trying to trace his ponies and their offspring. My father died 20 years ago and his remaining 2 mares were sold but they could have gone on to have more foals with their new owners. I have grandchildren aged 4 and 2 and would love to find the line of breeding or indeed one of Dad's ponies that would now be in their twenties and needs a retirement home. The gelding Tilston Teal was still playing polo in the Gloucestershire area 5 years ago but I have now lost touch with him. The gelding Tilston Cardinal won the HOYS single harness pony of the year approximately 10 years ago and I think he is still owned by Mrs Wybrew.
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Post by gillwales on Feb 23, 2017 6:23:58 GMT
I am an English woman living in Wales, and yes Welsh is a beautiful language, it is also bloody difficult to say! If you are living in England and are therefore likely to be showing in Yorkshire pick one that is reasonably easy to pronouce or the commentator is likely to avoid saying it and you will not get the publicity. It does work in reverse, we had one filly called Redvale Sea Chanty, you should have heard all the different versions of that My suggestion: Arbenig, ( I think that is the correct spelling ) , which means Special Im sure that the Welsh speakers amongst us can check my spelling which everyone knows on this site is level with my typing skills , when one of my welsh friends stir themselves I will check for you . Unless it has changed, you need to first register with the Central Prefix and then with each society you intend to use. It can be quite costly if with more than one.
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Post by comanchediva on Feb 23, 2017 6:27:21 GMT
This thread is 6 years old!
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Post by gillwales on Feb 23, 2017 6:30:41 GMT
Ah thanks! It was on page one of recent threads heance why I responded.. it would have helped if the chosen name was put on the thread! I never bother to look to see when the original thread is written, if I see it on the first page I assume it is current.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 23, 2017 7:58:56 GMT
Further to gillwales remarks on language - I am an Englishwoman living and breeding Welsh ponies in England, so have struggled with the Welsh language for years now! Mine are named in English, but I do have one bought in who was bred in England and named in Welsh - but slightly wrongly spelled so meaningless. I have a very good friend who is Welsh but lives and breeds in England, and her ponies are often named so very Welsh that us English can't relate name to pony at all as the words are so alien to us. So this is a plea - if you use Welsh names in England, please keep it simple! Mind you, my prefix is often mispronounced too, it's not just the Welsh language.
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Post by gillwales on Feb 23, 2017 10:02:05 GMT
I do recall a friend who had a champion colt named l. Pizaz, it caused great hilarity when the announcer at the NPS summer champ called him pizza... so whenever we chatted on the phone it gave me great delight in asking after pizza.... I would get a growel by reply
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