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Post by frozzy on Jun 9, 2011 11:28:06 GMT
Hi there I am a homecarer to the elderly and handicapped. One of my "service users" has a fourteen year old Dalmation bit*h whose back end has totally gone. It falls down, cant get up, messes on the floor etc. I have no doubt he loves her, (even tho he is always yelling at her). I tried to have a conversation around " have you thought about how the old dog is these days?" Replies are "she is fine" The truth is she is not. Not in any way is she fine. If she were mine I would have put her out of her misery four months ago. I passed the information onto my line manager a good while ago and nothing has happened. This man is brain injured from an accident in the woods. He is very volatile at the best of times. Do I contact the SSPCA (we are in Scotland) explaining the situation? The old dog needs help badly.
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Post by rightrein92 on Jun 9, 2011 11:31:54 GMT
i would, or is there a family member you can have a quiet word with...if not definatly report the dog its for the best if shes in pain x
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Post by frozzy on Jun 9, 2011 18:44:04 GMT
Unfortunately there is no family. Only a social worker who is the "responsible adult" in his life. (This man is in his early sixties) so I think it will have to be the SSPCA.
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Post by brindlerainbow on Jun 9, 2011 19:24:48 GMT
Yes definately speak to the SSPCA, good luck the poor girl sounds like her time has come
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Post by wiccaweys on Jun 9, 2011 19:33:12 GMT
Speak to the SSPCA.
However, the Social Worker assigned to this chap has a duty of care to the dog as the chap is no longer able to care for it, as does the council the social worker answers too (eg, if this chap was taken into hospital etc, the council would have to provide boarding for the dog until he was able to return home).
Is there a local dog warden? You need to contact them asap and ask them to to liase with the Social Worker and for them to speak to the chap together.
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Post by dazycutter on Jun 14, 2011 17:28:43 GMT
what a flipping shame for the poor dog.. sounds like her time has come and I would do everything to make sure she gets a dignified end... I hope the SSPCA are better than our RSPCA who are quite useless....however, you can quote the "new law on what a dog must have"... etc etc.. good luck
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Post by frozzy on Jun 18, 2011 12:54:44 GMT
Bit of an update (and have to say I am disgusted with the vet concerned) The chap was talked into taking the old girl to the vet accompanied by his CPN. The vet could see how the dog was, suggested blood tests and handed him a bottle of Metacalm. The chap and his dog returned home. Another carer went into the house and got out as quickly as she could. She was so upset she couldnt talk. Phoned our manager and told her no way could she return to the chap whilst the poor animal was being kept like that. I was at a meeting with manager Wednesday pm after having been with the chap that morning. He told me that the old girl had been to the vet Monday night and the vet said she was fine! As gently as I could I explained that no the dog was far from fine and could he not see she was in pain and dragging her back end about? At the meeting I suggested I try and speak to the vets (I have a good relationship with most of the horse vets) so went home and phoned. I know they have to be careful with confidentialiality etc but I was going to give this a try. Said vet (who I have never met, he is a cat/dog vet.) returned my call and I expressed my surprise that the old girl had not been PTS on Monday evening! His reply? He acknowledged that the dog had no power in its back end or feeling there. He acknowledged that it was incontinent and was lying in its own mess. He even acknowledged that the blood tests had shown extensive liver failure and that the dog was in severe pain. But if the owner was happy to clean up round about her then who was he or I to suggest putting her down. I replied that didnt it come down to the dog having quality of life? Well he waffled on and on and I asked him would he be happy to justify his decision to allow the dog to continue in pain if visited by SSPCA? More waffle. My manager has visited the chap to see for herself and she has told him the dog has to be PTS this week. I have been asked to look for a suitable companion replacement for him. I dont think so somehow.
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Post by brindlerainbow on Jun 18, 2011 14:21:55 GMT
Well done Frozzy for trying to do the best for this poor dog. The vet sounds like a complete basket case and is not putting the dogs welfare first. I dont think the owner of the dog needs a replacement either as if he is brain damaged an volitile I personally dont think he is able to give a dog the consistent stable environment it needs and deserves. Maybe some one who has a dog maybe be willing to visit him so he is able to interact with it while being supervised by the owner
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Post by carolla on Jun 18, 2011 14:24:25 GMT
I am apalled with that vet he wants striking off, he is obviously milking the situation for money not the dogs welfare, this is inhumane disgusting. I hope the poor dog gets put out of its misery. God rest its poor soul.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 16:28:48 GMT
Well done for caring about this dogs welfare. If the dog hasnt been PTS yet, then keep reporting it, until the right thing is done.
I hate thinking of any animal suffering, so please keep trying xxx
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Post by frozzy on Jun 22, 2011 13:52:51 GMT
I walked in on Monday to a distraught man and a dog surrounded by faeces and urine. He had been crying all the time, upset because he knew his dog needed PTS but noone would take the responsibility away from him. I contacted my manager and said get the vet there now or I will not be held responsible for my actions. She was PTS that afternoon. RIP Kim, I am only sorry it wasnt done four weeks earlier.
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Post by brindlerainbow on Jun 22, 2011 13:57:32 GMT
RIP Kim, Well done Frozzy for being there for the dog. Sounds like the man needs a bit of support too
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 18:17:52 GMT
I walked in on Monday to a distraught man and a dog surrounded by faeces and urine. He had been crying all the time, upset because he knew his dog needed PTS but noone would take the responsibility away from him. I contacted my manager and said get the vet there now or I will not be held responsible for my actions. She was PTS that afternoon. RIP Kim, I am only sorry it wasnt done four weeks earlier. Well done Frozzy - a massive supportive hug and admiration - you did the very best you could and got the right result. Sad for the owner I know, but the poor dog should not be left to suffer. xxxxxxxxxx
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Post by wiccaweys on Jun 23, 2011 13:35:31 GMT
Thank you for being there to support the owner and his dog at the end Frozzy. RIP dog. I do feel for the owner. In his delicate state, his dog was probably his only real friend. Its a shame the social worker didn't take the responsibility and duty of care they had to them both seriously in this case, and be there to help and support them both when it was really needed. Well done to you and your manager for taking that extra care on your own shoulders. It would be worth contacting PAT dogs, to see if there is a volunteer in the area who would be happy to come during supervised times to visit him. So the chap has the benefit of regular contact with a dog but without the day to day responsiblity of having another dog. Again, this is something that the social worker should be involved in organising, however it may be worth you talking to your manager as well. PAT DOGS (Pets As Therapy)I hope that helps.
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