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Post by lostweekends on Aug 5, 2011 10:22:00 GMT
I have a sh1tzu(who thinks he's a jack russell ) who lives out during the day with my neuffie and comes in at night. He has started barking if he can see you through windows or down the garden. I have tried collars to help stop it ie the one that squirts and he loved it and one which gives a warning noise and very slight shock . He has discovered the bark sets it off but a bark/howl doesn't ! any ideas as the current noise is worse than the bark
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Post by JaysMum on Aug 5, 2011 20:52:06 GMT
Dogs bark for lots of reasons and one is stress/frustration. If you let dog in would he/she stop barking?
Spray collars or using plant sprays IMO don't work as dogs love the stream and think it's a game....
why does dog have to be out during the day?
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Post by lostweekends on Aug 6, 2011 6:14:44 GMT
if hes in he wants to be out and if out wants to be in . Also I am a chilminder so he is better out as he won't leave the other dog and him being so big a bit scarey for little kids. He's fine if shut up intack room but don't want to do that
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Post by m@m on Aug 6, 2011 9:01:13 GMT
can you chuck them some bones to chew on or would they fight other them? is there somewhere in the area you put him you could put a radio? i use one and it makes a load of difference to barking, whether in the garden or at night when any little noise used to set them off, and if not you can get the stronger collars that have a remote that you keep hold of and press when he starts barking or howling, i would suggest you shouting no at him at same time so he associates your voice as well, and hopefully you can eventually cut down on the use of remote over time?
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Post by JaysMum on Aug 6, 2011 10:29:15 GMT
If he's ok in the tack room, then I'd put him in there.....
Personally I'd chuck the remote collar...... and would only use one in a life or death situation...
He's barking for a reason and usually that reason is to get your attention.... by pressing the button you are rewarding the behaviour..... so try the other way and ignore the barking, hard as it is..... otherwise.. if he's ok in the tack room, with food, water and a comfy bed.... let him in there. Radio on a classical channel is good too.... classical music soothes them RnB winds them up lol
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Post by JaysMum on Aug 6, 2011 10:31:28 GMT
and since you work with kids.... introduce them to the Newfie tell them the job they do (water rescue) and you will probably find that they are no longer scared of him....
I did a water rescue for charity a few weeks ago.. the Newfies were just gorgeous
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Post by lostweekends on Aug 6, 2011 10:32:04 GMT
think Im going to have to try stronger collar with remotejust been having a look at them , not interested in bones or chews either of them the only thing they do like is balls and we go through lots of them ! There is a radio in there bed room unfortunately to that he howels along to the music which is really quite funny. Thanks I;ll giveit a go
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Post by dazycutter on Aug 6, 2011 18:45:15 GMT
please dont use those collars that gives them a small shock.. its totally inhumane IMO.. seek advice from a behaviourist..... good luck
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Post by JaysMum on Aug 7, 2011 21:22:18 GMT
I agree with Dazycutter... e-collars IMO should only be used by trainers who know how to use them, not bought and used by Joe Bloggs, any missed timing and you bog up the whole idea of it... better plan for all would be to put in tack room with a comfy bed
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Post by lostweekends on Aug 10, 2011 20:45:57 GMT
Gone with the collar I tried it and it just makes a noise so dosent even do as it says ! he's actually been happier these last couple of days with the wind and rain so am now of the thinking he just didn't like the heat . So Ive removed the hay loft in there tack room and given him a fan ! Its working at the moment so not knocking it at least someone likes the rubbish weather
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Post by JaysMum on Aug 11, 2011 8:51:21 GMT
If he's too hot, perhaps he's not feeling well??
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Post by vet nurse on Aug 12, 2011 11:30:42 GMT
you may find the collar works initially but unless it is paired with behavioural modification it wont last as the dog will become desensitised to it. people who insist on using these rather than other options and seeking behavioural advice are generally just lazy and wanting a quick fix...
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Post by lostweekends on Aug 14, 2011 7:07:56 GMT
jaysmum hes been for avery unlike sh1tzu hair cut and is much better I think its been the weather even when hot he still tends to curl up in the neuffie we have that and the bed was under hayloft which also gets warm. While we've been away hubby has let him sleep out at night aswell and hes said hes been fine so fingers crossed things seem better
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Post by honeybees on Aug 14, 2011 20:58:58 GMT
Hi lostweekends
I realise that you said the problem is getting better but if not rather than you spending money on more aversion products & refills... this is what I did for my vocal rotti X...
What I did was everytime he began barking/making noise I would make a shock aversion noise, like ahh-ahh! Short, sharp and loud... Get some body to walk past some were he can see them and hide were he can't see you but can hear you. When he begins to start up make your 'shock' noise. Repeat exercise...Training discs work well in this situation too!
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