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Post by SHow Sec NLI on Jun 23, 2007 6:41:04 GMT
Considering i completley booooooooopppped my post yesterday by putting name in the wring bit can the mods remove yesterdays please The going is officially good to soft soft in places Parking is damp but surface damp and not deep mud at present with 3 tractors on standby Forecast for tommroow is bright with maybe a shower of occasional light rain and not torrential rain Many Thanks Emma x
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Post by neveragain on Jun 24, 2007 18:36:41 GMT
thanks for NOT TELLING THE TRUTH the ground was awful, infact so bad that we did not even unload the ponies, we waited hours to be towed on, worse than cheshire. We were so far from the rings that it was terrible planning, waited for an hour, got towed of and went home.
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Post by derby on Jun 24, 2007 19:01:51 GMT
agree ground was awful, we had to trek to our ring, i know health and safety la di dah, but last year they had no problems, we somehow braved the weather, but even before we got to the rings ponys and handlers were covered in mud. we even thought about turning around and going home as we thought it was cancelled when we saw lorries driving away.
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Post by angry horse on Jun 24, 2007 19:21:34 GMT
well wot a total abortion of organization We followed the erected signs to the show and hit stand still traffic . Ok so you expect traffic at big shows . But we moved about 20 meters in 90 mins. To find out that the ( sign posted) route into the show was no longer the priority way in what chimp planned that. Then we were told the start would be put back at least an hour to find out 40 mins later they had started. Add to this young lads in tractors dragging very expensive vehicles with live animals through what can only be described as a ploughed field What a total disgrace it should of been canceled for health and safety reasons. 3 tractors for that many vehicles i think some refunds should happen at £16 a class as the show has failed to provide a service, for which i and many others behind me have paid good money for. To miss through no fault but poor organization . As HELLO it has been raining for most of the week
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Post by crazymare on Jun 24, 2007 19:27:24 GMT
I agree the ground was appaling. I telephoned several friends due to go, to alert them to the conditions so they personally could make the decsion. All chose not to risk their horses.
Also, my class had a judge change, I never heard a single announcement for this, luckily I didn't know this judge so could go under him but there could of been vested interest and a wasted trip!
I won't start about the arab that double barrelled me from a different ring....
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Post by Show Sec NLI on Jun 24, 2007 19:32:53 GMT
Ground - was dry until 6.30am
Weather - i am not a met office and get same info as you do
Horse Walk - Last year was not safe and it is considerably less walk than some
Judge Change - On the notice board - and ON THE INTERNET _ unless Arabs in which case was Changed at 5.45am ! Was Announced before the class
British Weather - Agricultural Show - we got on and did it.
Not Prepared to enter into arguments a show is a show, and you never please everyone but i know from the feedback we have had from all people that ....the show must go on no matter what and thats what we did got on with it.
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Post by MUST ADD on Jun 24, 2007 19:36:21 GMT
No matter what show you have been to 100% of people will never be satisfield, you have good ones, you have bad ones bout time you fine weather lot woke up and smelt the coffee !!! Guarantee no matter what post about what show is put on her you will get the slagging of whingers ......... how suprising !
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Post by angry horse on Jun 24, 2007 19:42:08 GMT
MUST ADD - where you there!!!!!!!!!!!
Would you make your pony work through a ploughed field at home - i think not -
The show was a total mess - we show alot - and it was the worst i have seen for a LONG time -
People moan about judges - etc - rarely about the going - in the end of the day its the welfare of the animals -
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Post by happy on Jun 24, 2007 19:44:29 GMT
well i agree, it was a bit of mayhem gettin on the field but classes were pospond for what i thought was out of goodness of the judges, they dint have to be! yes it was muddy but im sorry the organisers cant be blamed for it, i went down on the sat to see a friend, and i can clarify that the ground was ok just the entrance where the marques display stuff etc etc had come in and come across the field ( not the horsey organisers fault! they had no say in the matter!) me personally dint let the weather n mud phase me my horse was fine and it wasnt dangerous (me horse gallops round in a field in worse mud!). only thing id winge about was inconsiderate people warming horses up in and around lorries and trailers parked up instead of one of 3 rings for warming up. i agree the show must go on whole point at an agricultural show is carry on whatever weather (which you can book good weather unfortunately!). its a shame people cant see volunteers helpers and efforts of judges and stewards instead of always picking fault. i think the best was done in the conditions we had, i take me hat off to everyone who played a part in the day.
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Post by well done on Jun 24, 2007 19:45:12 GMT
Well done Emma and all the stewards, judges and helpers. I live 10 minutes from the show and ground is fine at home so the show could not have been cancelled. Yes the towing on/off situation was difficult but I found the tractor drivers very helpful and polite. Not something I would like to repeat again in the near future but it's done now - god knows how the ground will recover though.
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Post by angry horse on Jun 24, 2007 19:46:38 GMT
Ground - was dry until 6.30am Weather - i am not a met office and get same info as you do Horse Walk - Last year was not safe and it is considerably less walk than some Judge Change - On the notice board - and ON THE INTERNET _ unless Arabs in which case was Changed at 5.45am ! Was Announced before the class British Weather - Agricultural Show - we got on and did it. Not Prepared to enter into arguments a show is a show, and you never please everyone but i know from the feedback we have had from all people that ....the show must go on no matter what and thats what we did got on with it. How do you explain why your prioritised route was NOT priorty - at 1 point my friend called me - and they where queing on the slip road of the A52 how dangerous is that - as that was the signposted route in - it is plain BAD organisation
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Post by fell ponies are the best on Jun 24, 2007 20:04:17 GMT
We're British get over it!!! sterling effort emma! Have a well earned rest now
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Post by penech on Jun 24, 2007 20:16:21 GMT
Has anyone the section A inhand results please!!!!
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Post by Show Sec on Jun 24, 2007 21:00:50 GMT
With Regards the route that is not my department and should you wish to have the matter raised then please write to the resgitered office as per the webpage.
Results hasnt been done yet as you can imagine in bush whacked, but come on some people reality check, we are a one day show we were not going to cancel, the going for all classes ( the workers which if dangerous wouldnt have gone ahead) the course builders were happy.
We cant do anything about the weather, mind you some people will moan absolutly no matter what you do but before slinging remarks about about abortion of organisation etc take a REAL hard look at what it entails, if you think you are so good what would you have done ??
2 routes to the show ground what want me to do start shipping themin by helicoper, far more happy competitors than moany ones.
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Post by mollycoddled on Jun 24, 2007 21:03:50 GMT
Crazy horse take it yours is one of the plastic ponies then that cannot cope with more difficult going ? plenty old and young, race horses and workers that i saw today all cope faboulously well ? Supposed you would moan if was like concrete to !!!!!! Good horse should cope with any ground should learn to adapte and if the cant are they really worth showing as a fine example of their type ??
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Post by happy on Jun 24, 2007 21:18:35 GMT
i agree . it was my 1st time ever at competing at county level and it was also my horses 1st time too!!
i did working hunter with about 30 in the class and we came 4th overall, me and my horse who have only competed at local level can give it a bash in bad weather conditions, and come out overwhelmingly happy i dont understand the problem people have, if u knew it had been raining all week and u thought should be called off, you should have not turned up, instead of tryin to point the blame at other people, at end of day its your decision if you come no1 elses
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Post by uk on Jun 24, 2007 21:28:46 GMT
Herts County is often like this - it's not unusual. The tractors are a bit hellraising but not an uncommon method of getting lorries onto the showground, if you are worried then it's best to unload the horse first if you're able.
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Post by Interlude on Jun 24, 2007 21:47:33 GMT
Crazy horse take it yours is one of the plastic ponies then that cannot cope with more difficult going ? Doesn't really look like it - the picture on her post is of a grey pony in a water jump - hardly a plastic pony then is it? ? what a silly comment.
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Post by frobster on Jun 24, 2007 21:54:58 GMT
Crazy horse take it yours is one of the plastic ponies then that cannot cope with more difficult going ? Doesn't really look like it - the picture on her post is of a grey pony in a water jump - hardly a plastic pony then is it? ? what a silly comment. I think maybe she meant "angry horse"
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Post by budgie on Jun 24, 2007 22:04:55 GMT
i agree . it was my 1st time ever at competing at county level and it was also my horses 1st time too!! i did working hunter with about 30 in the class and we came 4th overall, me and my horse who have only competed at local level can give it a bash in bad weather conditions, and come out overwhelmingly happy i dont understand the problem people have, if u knew it had been raining all week and u thought should be called off, you should have not turned up, instead of tryin to point the blame at other people, at end of day its your decision if you come no1 elses Oh your first county show WELL THEY DO SAY A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS DANGEROUS, DON'T THEY? I would love to know what junction the heli pad was on as I couldn't even see the signs for Derby county show off the A52, was this route quicker? maybe you need to put this to you website. I feel even if the weather had been nice the show would still have been a shambles, people working horse/ponies in in the horse walk, unhelpful SHOW SECRETARY THAT CAN'T EVEN ANSWER HER PHONE or even put an answer phone message saying the show was put back an hour, if it was impossible to answer it. I even heard that the poor welsh cob judge couldn't have a non alcoholic drink, and had to make do with wine! Was he getting dropped off at home by the helicopter? As for the tractor drivers. Yes there were one or two helpful ones. but most of them seemed to think it funny to speed round, hand brake turning and making the field worse.
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Post by Show Sec on Jun 25, 2007 5:44:35 GMT
The Phone was given to a comittee member to answer as literally couldnt answer all calls and before it was lost or stolen yesterday, it had 86 missed calls due to the volume of calls coming in. With Re the judge we had plenty of soft drinks, and i have never heard anything re not having any, and by helicoper All i can say now by looking out of the window is than your lucky stars show was yesterday and not today !! As i said Before not any issues that you feel have arisin can be written in, but circumstance beyond our control, not like i turned the tap on yesterday morning, The horse rings at 5.45 am on sunday morning had perfect going, yes there was mud on the crossing on the walkway but come on there is always mud when rain. The rings HAD NOT been touched by anything for the horses priority so how you can say it was dangerous. All in handers ran on it fine and all of the workers jumped well with one faller in all classes resulting from a refusal !!!!!!!!
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Post by I was there on Jun 25, 2007 7:16:37 GMT
Well I was there and for the last 10 years also been competeing at Leics and Herts and there was nothing unusual aboout the situation apart from the fact its the end of June and it SHOULD be summer!!! If you were at Chesire in the week you will also know the show had to be delayed for an hour or so due to the delays caused by having to tow people on so again nothing unusual. I spent an hour and half stuck in traffic jams on the way to the show and whilst it may have been a good idea to liase with Donnington park, I rany the mobile number given, had my call answered and told my classes would be delayed for an hour (a message I passed on to all those I knew were en route) Yes there was a lack of tractors in the morning (although I had a car and trailer and drove in easily without needing to be towed) but there were about a dozen working towing people in and out by 1.00pm. There were towing rather fast and yep I was terrified at times but hey thats what tractor drivers do! The horse rings were waterlogged but had obviously been saved for the horses and the ring I was running in was fine, squelchy but fine. the stall area however OMG!!!!! LOL The mud wasn't deep and sticky anyway it was very wet, almost muddy water and obviously casued by the high water table and heavy rain on show morning. As someone said its Britain, we are British, what happened to dunkirk spirit. We sufferent no more that those at glastonbury and we are supposed to be country folk who understand that no one can control the weather. I was all prepared to complain before I got to the show BUT all the people I show with and against were all showing their Dunkirk spirit and I had my most enjoyable days showing so far this year Mud and all! Smile this is the kinda thing that makes britain great!!! A Champion was Sandy Anderson with a yearling A Reserve was Sandy Goodwin with a Barren mare
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Post by happy on Jun 25, 2007 7:53:57 GMT
i totally agree! cant predict weather! it was a fun day mud and all and i think a job well done! considering weather
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Post by eleybee on Jun 25, 2007 11:24:28 GMT
the only thing i was not to pleased about was the horse walk next to the lorrys being towed on, my ponies are good with heavy traffic but tractors racing back and fourth was to much for them . british weather is unpredictable ? other why's emma did the best that could be done
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Post by not logged in on Jun 25, 2007 16:44:25 GMT
I cannot believe how unfair some of you are to this poor show secretary. I bet she doesn't receive adequate financial recompense (if any!) for taking this sort of abuse!
OK, the road signs misled but we all know that you are always sent the longest possible way round to permanent showgrounds. Do your homework - check maps before you go.
County showgrounds are notoriously busy - surely the tractors were just doing their job. I am sure the drivers did not set out to scare lorry occupants or ridden ponies. Having had a scary experience when being towed onto a showground I now always pleasantly ask the driver to give as gentle a tow as possible. A couple of quid for a pint ensures this.
You all have access to the internet, do you not check local forecasts the day prior to a show? The forecast was awful. The fact that the going was very wet in the rings and cut up outside seems to have come as a shock to some. The queues at Cheshire waiting for a tow on/off were well aired and should have been a warning.
If you have a complaint about a show, email or write to the show director. I had a problem with the miniscule working hunter working in area last year at Cheshire and wrote to the show director.I received a nice response and a promise that this complaint would be aired at the pre show light horse meeting. This year we had ample working in!...and the clay pigeon shoot was moved further away (on the suggestion of a competitior who wrote in too).
OK, rant over. Looks like it will be wet at Staffs/Royal too. Good luck and be happy!
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Post by stop moaning on Jun 25, 2007 17:50:58 GMT
Well! What a pathetic load of whingebags you are! It's rain and rain is wet and that usually equals mud. Hats off to the secretary and her team for coping so well!
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Post by Welsh A Results on Jun 25, 2007 22:35:04 GMT
Ww Only Have 2 minor issues one with sec a yearlings and one with Veterans results as sheets a mess, we have to 3rd place in the welsh a yearlings if you can fill in the blanks thay would be excellent Sec A Stallions 1st S Greenwood - Glenrose Tornado 2nd S Keswani - Norash Beauson 3rd F Owen - Sianlee Desert Prince Sec A Yearlings ( Big Class but only got to third fill in the Gaps Please) 1st S Anderson - Thistledown Velvet Bow 2nd J Hampson - Llanfar Malibu ?? Please Confirm 3rd C Dolman - Brierdene Shining Star ( Wooohoo go little Star ) 2/3 Years Olds 1st S Greenwood - Glenrose Ruby Tuesday 2nd S Day - Blethyn Bobby Dazzler 3rd S Varley - Blackhills Brigadier 4th A Oldroyd - Brynsion Louisianna Belle 5th J Saville - Larapinta Torea 6th MD Taylor - Brackenrigg Brother Cadfael Brood Mares 1st ME Wilson - Jenkira Karisma 2nd SM Lassey - Flydon Cwcw 3rd Mrs M Fielding - Eugrad Diva Foalies !!! 1st M Fielding - Offcote Delyth 2nd SM Lassey - Calamoor Swallow 3rd ME Wilson Jenkira Foal Barren Mares & Geldings 1st KW Goodwin - Tame Valley Tamara 2nd TK Berington - Forlan Honey Cookie 3rd A Durrant - Calamoor Mistique 4th S Day - Briolen Pollyanna 5th KF Phillips - Craigdorne Molly Malone 6th F Owen - Mardruid Exquisite Champion Thistledown Velvet Bow Res - Tame Valley Tamara
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Post by just wondered on Jun 25, 2007 23:29:45 GMT
Who was the judge for the A's? Thanks.
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Post by Emma on Jun 26, 2007 6:12:34 GMT
Mrs Daley
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Post by OMG Whoopsie on Jun 26, 2007 6:13:47 GMT
MRRRRRRRRRRR Daley Sorry shows you what happens when i type without spec
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