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Post by amsorry on Mar 25, 2015 11:42:29 GMT
cant get the rspca fb link to open can somebody help
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Post by highlanderlass on Mar 26, 2015 14:56:32 GMT
Go on to RSPCA page on Facebook and you will see it there.
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Post by Stunned and very worried! on Mar 26, 2015 15:16:25 GMT
Well todays Horse and Hound makes for good reading! Apparently, the precious bloodlines David Hinde is claiming will be lost if he has his ponies taken, is all a load of rubbish!! The DPS is working with the RSPCA to ensure that new owners will be allowed the ponies passports and will be allowed to breed! So David Hinde, your argument holds NO water!! This is the link to todays Horse and Hound article :- www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/pumphill-dartmoor-bloodlines-not-risk-479168David Hinde has now made a simpering , non-sensical statement on his facebook page which reads as follows:- Following on from the article in Horse and Hound this morning - the following shows the complete collusion referred to in that article between the Dartmoor Pony Society and the RSPCA ongoing since 2010. As the appeals have been accepted by the Court then any Deprivation Order is now on hold and so the herd is safe until after the Appeal has been heard later in the year. The ponies are not in my name a fact that also seems to have escaped the Dartmoor Pony Society. As also mentioned previously as the RSPCA have refused to release the passports seized by them in Oct 2012 and the DPS have refused to issue duplicate passports to the legal owners of the ponies in the herd then NO sale of these ponies can take place under passport law without a passport being present - this is effectively continuing the entrapment of the herd for more than 21/2 years. Taken from the Dartmoor Pony Society website this morning............... Mr. David Hinde - Pumphill Following the court's decision on 18/03/2015 to ban Mr David Hinde from keeping animals he has 21 days in which to find homes for these Pumphill ponies after which the RSPCA will take responsibility for them. As the whereabouts of many of the ponies is unknown to the Society it is important that they are traced and identified in order to enable them to be rehomed and transferred into new ownership correctly and legally. The DPS is working with the RSPCA in this matter and anyone knowing the location of the ponies is asked to contact the society immediately. Without this knowledge the Society is unable to ensure the wellbeing of the ponies which is their top priority. Please remember that by law all ponies must have a passport in the name of the current owner. David Hinde is talking utter rubbish and so are his deluded followers! The article states quite clearly that the DPS have been working with the RSPCA since 2010 regarding this herd, (David Hinde calls it a `collusion`, I call it safeguarding the animals from a convicted animal abuser!), they also state that should someone buy one of the ponies, they will release that passport to that pony- simple! What exactly is wrong with that? The plot then thickens as Hinde states on an open forum that the ponies ARE NOT IN HIS NAME- meaning he has transferred ownership, (albeit only in name), to some of his friends/associates, that Mr Hinde is FRAUD, it is deliberately ignoring an order made by the Court and flouting a ban! It is also states by the DPS that they don`t know where the ponies which form the herd are and that anyone who does know, should come forward, David Hinde obviously has them well hidden all over the country, which explains why Fred, (the pony starved to death), was in Preston! So in reality, it is David Hinde who is stopping these ponies being re-homed, NOT the RSPCA or the DPS! David Hinde is not interested in the ponies finding good homes, all he is interested in is retaining them for himself to keep what `kudos` he thinks he still has! He is a selfish, greedy man! Oh and what of the cats? He never mentions those does he? Clearly he doesn`t wish to `save ` them from the RSPCA...but then they didn`t have him so many fans did they! STILL people are supporting this vile man on his Facebook page! Why? ?
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Post by Vilehumanbeing on Mar 26, 2015 15:56:57 GMT
What a vile man DH is! I cannot believe how many mutual friends I have with this man, in fact i'm quite shocked especially that some are supporting him. Disgusting! What has happened to the cats? This man needs locking up or maybe let him be treated the same way that he has treated the ponies and the cats.... VILE!
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Post by LizaRakovic on Mar 26, 2015 20:48:25 GMT
Perhaps it's time we all wrote to the various horse societies to raise our concerns and disgust if they continue to allow anyone, be it a member or judge, to be connected with them. The same for Horse and Hound and any of their reporters.
Most have a rule against bringing their society into disrepute, they have a social media policy too...both of which have been broken with their open (it is a public site ) support for a convicted animal abuser.
I have all but given up hope for any redemption for those who continue to support this man, they are either very very thick,very very stupid or very very cruel.
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Post by just as bad on Mar 26, 2015 20:58:35 GMT
Haha Iv got to laugh at your comment Liza and no offence meant at all. But bringing certain societies into dispute is just to funny. I see judges on certain panels doing this most weekends with no repercussions. Societies will only sit up when it suits them!
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Post by just as bad on Mar 26, 2015 20:59:53 GMT
Sorry I meant disrepute
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Post by LizaRakovic on Mar 26, 2015 21:23:06 GMT
Just as bad, I couldn't agree more...but we live in hope eh?...I fear there is no hope
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Post by Well on Mar 26, 2015 21:28:34 GMT
most of the people in the showing world are involved with people that run puppy farms that doesn't stop you having lessons ect with them I agree really bad what he's done but talk about calling the kettle black
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Post by LizaRakovic on Mar 26, 2015 22:07:31 GMT
Who's had lessons with puppy farm owners, I certainly haven't...and two wrongs don't make a right. I don't think sweeping statements like "most people in the showing world" are hugely accurate either.
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Post by Stunned and very worried! on Mar 27, 2015 0:09:53 GMT
most of the people in the showing world are involved with people that run puppy farms that doesn't stop you having lessons ect with them I agree really bad what he's done but talk about calling the kettle black Well I have never KNOWINGLY had dealings with anyone in the showing world who runs puppy farms, or abuses/neglects animals , but I guess we don`t really know what goes on behind closed doors , and apparently Mr Hinde can be extremely charming, but that doesn`t excuse the fact he abuses/neglects/starves animals repeatedly, it just makes him even more abhorrent in my eyes in that whilst he knows he is committing these heinious crimes against innocent animals, he can smile and make out all is well and that he is a nice guy- now either he should get an award for his excellent acting skills, or he is such a vile, disgusting creature, he sees no wrong in what he has done and continues to do to those poor animals, from his own Facebook page, I think we can all safely say he is the latter as he professes he has done nothing wrong, day in and day out! I think what makes those of us on here speaking out against Hindes crimes different to his dleuded followers is that we actually CARE and try to do something to stop him, whilst his supporters praise him for getting a non custodial sentence, personally I think he should be locked up and the key thrown away so he can never harm any animal ever again!
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Post by Stunned and very worried! on Mar 27, 2015 0:12:45 GMT
Sorry, I meant `deluded` followers, not dleuded, I was hitting the keys too fast in anger :/
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Post by amsorry on Mar 27, 2015 8:01:44 GMT
also he says the ponies are not in his name but his parents - excuse have they also not been banned for keeping anything but a dog - poor dog
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Post by RubyD on Mar 27, 2015 15:45:59 GMT
How cay anyone who does not have a job and supposedly is on benefits and has been for years afford to keep so many ponies and cats, now wonder they have been starved and neglected. I understand he is appealing his sentence, when he did this last time he lost his appeal and the RSPCA were awarded substantial cost which resulted them being awarded legal rights to the family home, so not only is he penniless he has no home if anything happens to his parents.
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Post by springtimes on Mar 27, 2015 16:03:48 GMT
Well he has just blocked me from his facebook because someone asked about the ponies and I wrote what was on the DPS website that they needed to find the ponies that were moved before the first ban so they could verify them, he himself had already posted the same extract in his original post, so I couldn't see a problem and it certainly wasn't nasty in any form as anyone can read it on the DPS website.
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Post by supes on Mar 27, 2015 17:19:32 GMT
Well he has just blocked me from his facebook because someone asked about the ponies and I wrote what was on the DPS website that they needed to find the ponies that were moved before the first ban so they could verify them, he himself had already posted the same extract in his original post, so I couldn't see a problem and it certainly wasn't nasty in any form as anyone can read it on the DPS website. Join the club springtimes, I have also been blocked for speaking the truth, it would seem he is somewhat allergic to the truth and if anyone quotes the facts, he immediately deletes the comments and deletes the person making the comments! The truth of the matter is only one person is stopping the ponies being re-homed and that is David Hinde! He doesn`t want the ponies re-homing, he wants to keep them all himself! I know for a fact numerous people have offered to buy ponies to help out and he has refused! He truly believes he has done nothing wrong and that he will be able to keep the ponies and tells whatever stories he needs to in order to get people onside! The man is delusional and a fantasist! Shame on anyone who continues to support him!
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Post by catkin on Mar 27, 2015 19:02:12 GMT
does anyone know why I cannot get onto page three of this discussion? edited to say, strangely, I did when I posted!
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Post by LizaRakovic on Mar 27, 2015 20:15:26 GMT
3725...Three thousand seven hundred and twenty five!!!!...That is the number of friends David Hinde has on facebook!
Included in those (and I have been through them all) are:
BSPS Company Secretary Honorary Life Member of BSPS BSPS Area 6 NCPA Cumbria, Yorkshire and Cheshire WPCS Midlands and Clywd Horse and Hound show reporters publically posting support BSPS Council Member Senior Showing and Dressage Society Executive Director BSPS Executive Council member's husband Bishop Burton Equestrian Centre Countless other judges, committee members, stud owners/breeders, producers, competitors and horse owners in general
Now allowing for one or two non animal lovers who couldn't care less and a few who have maybe forgotten they have friended him and don't see his updates, everyone else, all three thousand, seven hundred odd human beings know what has gone on because he himself has drawn attention, highlighted and publicised it on the very page they have friended!
I am truly horrified that 3725 human beings feel it fit and proper to be publically shown as a friend to this twice convicted animal abuser!
I am beginning to think maybe it's me that's wrong, am I missing something here that 3725 others see and I don't?
Please if you are his friend on facebook, please come on here and explain to me why, what is it I am missing....if not please do the decent thing and delete your friendship to show how you really feel about animal abusers
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Post by fanfarefan on Mar 27, 2015 21:02:56 GMT
Its not you Liza in any way shape or form ,,, its laughable that people think that they cannot be tracked on FB etc ,,,, This man has been sentenced for serious neglect of animals TWICE ,,,,FACT,,, therefore he is GUILTY ,,,,, FACT ,,,, there was help out there , when he realised he had problems ,,,,, FACT ,,,,, the truth is he didnt have the balls to admit that he needed help ,,,, passed the buck , and blamed his parents ,,,,, FACT ,,,,, now this has been in the public eye for many many months ,,,,,, there is no excuse for still being on his FB page in anyway shape or form,,,,,, FACT ,,,, if this was just JOE BLOGGS from down the road ,,, everyone but everyone with a name or society would be wanting to hang draw and quarter him ,,, but because they think they might offend a name or someone who might know them , they stay ,,,, how very very pathetic ,,,,,,, 3725 ,,,,, very very pathetic GROVELLERS ,,,, shame on you ,,,,, and actually you disgust me ,,,, and yes some of you may know me and may not agree with what i say , but actually i dont give d**n,,, !!!!!
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Post by LizaRakovic on Mar 27, 2015 21:14:24 GMT
Thanks fanfarefan, that is exactly how I feel, so much so that I am now going to delete the shared friends I have on Facebook, as I do not want to be associated with these people.
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Post by Philippa on Mar 27, 2015 21:29:08 GMT
I think and I say think I may be on his friends list but it was from a long time ago as I really don't do FB. I don't post on there and very very rarely even log in so here I am explaining why I may show up on there. I don't support him or what he has done as I have said on here and if I do go onto FB (which I actually despise) I will remove myself from his list no problems.
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Post by fanfarefan on Mar 27, 2015 21:41:52 GMT
And why should you be Liza , i have no desire to be associated with any animal abusers the same as you , i dont know this person nor do i wish to be , and some may say i have no right to judge , maybe i dont !!!! but the law of the land does ,,, and he was found guilty on many counts ,,,,,,, how but how can amyone continue to associate with such a person ,,,,, and if you do please question why ,,,,, and if he had treated any pf your beloved animals you have in your care today to the point of near death or beyond through sheer neglect would you still be friends ,,,,,,, i think not !!!!
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Post by comanchediva on Mar 27, 2015 21:47:26 GMT
Sorry I think everyone needs to get over the "friends on Facebook thing". Having an association with someone on social media with someone you've never met and probably don't know how you ended up being "friends" with this or any person, does not constitute support of said person. Commenting and supporting in writing does, but not being a "Facebook friend".
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Post by fanfarefan on Mar 27, 2015 21:56:21 GMT
maybe not CMDA but for those who stay on his page , he tbinks he has suppory from them , and lets face it were responsible for our FB pages so if you dont support him , take few se onds out to delete him , actions speak louder than words , 3275 still on his axcount is astounding considering the circumstances
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Post by Philippa on Mar 27, 2015 22:01:12 GMT
Well, I don't want to be associated with him personally so I've just de friended him!!!! I'm not hung up on FB cos I dont use it, in fact it's taken me since my last post to work out how on earth I delete him!!!!!
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Post by LizaRakovic on Mar 27, 2015 22:54:13 GMT
I am sorry CMDA but I disagree. To be a "friend" on facebook you have to request that friendship or accept a request. It is a conscious act. I would not want to accept a friendship from or seek to be a friend of/ continue to be a friend of any other convicted criminal guilty of an act that has caused suffering and/or death through neglect. If he is on your list of "friends" having met him or not you are saying on a public forum "I support this person and want my name linked to theirs" If you were introduced to someone with a badge saying "twice convicted animal abuser" would you stay around for a friendly chat and shake their hand, and call them a friend?
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Post by comanchediva on Mar 27, 2015 22:59:54 GMT
My point is that like Philippa says you could have friended him God knows how long ago and not even remember doing it and then not even use Facebook that much but then have your name written in a list on a public forum as someone who "supports" David Hind.
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Post by sleepyhead on Mar 27, 2015 23:09:07 GMT
I have the misfortune to know this person and deleted his friend request a couple of years ago as I always found him a slimey 2 faced smarmey creep! I think some people just accept friend request whatever whether they know the person or not so you can't condemn them for that but after all the publicity it sticks in my craw that people are actually liking his posts and not deleting him!
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Post by supes on Mar 28, 2015 0:03:03 GMT
I don`t so much mind people being his `friend` on Facebook, what sticks in my throat is those `friends` who are actively supporting him with congratulations when he announced he hadn`t got an immediate custodial sentence and these people were saying "Oh well done!" "So pleased for you!" "Onwards and upwards David!" "Keep at it david, we are all behind you!", and other such sickening comments, personally i think they should lock him up and throw away the key for what he has done to those poor animals...preferably without food!
As for some remaining `friends`, I was one of those until today, but I remained friends for one reason and one reason only, and that was so I could post on his page legal facts and correct certain aspects of what he and others were saying about the situation, now I have to admit that not many of my posts stayed on his page for long, (as he deletes anything which is truthful or factual, or anything which doesn`t agree with him!), but if even one person became wiser as to what had happened due to my posts, then it was worthwhile my staying friends with him! I also initially tried to help and advise David, but it soon became clear that he doesn`t believe he has done anything wrong, so I was wasting my time! David knows exactly why I defriended him today because as well as writing it on his page, I also messaged him privately and told him- needless to say he then blocked me but I honestly couldn`t take another day of reading the absolute tripe and bile he and his supporters post on his page and when it gets to the point where it`s physically making me feel ill, then is the time to pull the plug, which I did! As soon as I defriended David, I posted on my facebook wall asking that anyone who actively supports animal abuse/neglect to take themselves off my friends list- it is interesting to see how many people who initially supported David are now `liking` posts made on my Wall regarding this sad situation, however, I am also fully aware that someone, who is supposedly one of my friends, is reporting everything back to David, but I`m not really bothered who it is or what they are telling him, as I`m not saying anythingw hich I haven`t already said to him myself!
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Post by owston on Mar 28, 2015 0:42:36 GMT
3725...Three thousand seven hundred and twenty five!!!!...That is the number of friends David Hinde has on facebook! Included in those (and I have been through them all) are: BSPS Company Secretary Honorary Life Member of BSPS BSPS Area 6 NCPA Cumbria, Yorkshire and Cheshire WPCS Midlands and Clywd Horse and Hound show reporters publically posting support BSPS Council Member Senior Showing and Dressage Society Executive Director BSPS Executive Council member's husband Bishop Burton Equestrian Centre Countless other judges, committee members, stud owners/breeders, producers, competitors and horse owners in general Now allowing for one or two non animal lovers who couldn't care less and a few who have maybe forgotten they have friended him and don't see his updates, everyone else, all three thousand, seven hundred odd human beings know what has gone on because he himself has drawn attention, highlighted and publicised it on the very page they have friended! I am truly horrified that 3725 human beings feel it fit and proper to be publically shown as a friend to this twice convicted animal abuser! I am beginning to think maybe it's me that's wrong, am I missing something here that 3725 others see and I don't? Please if you are his friend on facebook, please come on here and explain to me why, what is it I am missing....if not please do the decent thing and delete your friendship to show how you really feel about animal abusers I didn't realise he was on the NCPA Yorkshire Branch page until I read this and he will be removed as soon as I can get someone to do it! Please can I say that he was added to the page by someone other than the committee and I for one do not support him in any way and have never been one of his FB cronies.
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