mash
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Post by mash on Jul 26, 2009 14:14:25 GMT
Does any one know the marks of the middle height m & m workers please thank you!!
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Post by chardonnay on Jul 26, 2009 14:57:38 GMT
Noone is knocking the lr fr judging. The judging in the open m and m's was just random. Not only did the ride judge have no idea of what a good show was(obviously not qualified to judge at this level without some riding lessons of her own) but the conformation judge was marking according to what he wanted to do well on the day. The reason I know this is that his marks for one particular pony were 9 marks lower than he had given it 3 weeks earlier(being top conformation on that day in a large hoys qualifier) and it was a pony he had written an article on last year about what a fabulous type of pony he is for his breed. The pony looked fantastic on the day, has no blemishes and moves straight and true. It is about time all judges answer our questions. Judging is not a thankless task, it is a powerful position that used to be respected, but many judges are making a mockery of this. If you can't be fair then step down and make room for new blood. Come on competitors, make a stand. Let us all complain about this blatant overuse of power and get rid of these bloody awful judges!
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Post by Rosabel on Jul 26, 2009 16:55:31 GMT
Does anyone have a copy of the score sheet for m&m LR they could pm me.
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Post by lyndandom on Jul 26, 2009 18:33:43 GMT
Has anyone got the marks for the H/F/D class?
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Post by andynco on Jul 26, 2009 19:02:08 GMT
Re: RIHS Friday results « Reply #201 Yesterday at 10:53pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Excellent pony to win it, from a pony that came from nowhere and had all the family working on it as they could see it had potential, he deserved it. As they say they 'winner takes it all' and he will take HOYS aswell, without the need of a film crew That coment is just a bit out of order the little girl was picked to be in a s4c programe representing lots of different children with lots of different hobbies Jelous or what ? Maybe your user name should be nessey lol
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teamas
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Post by teamas on Jul 26, 2009 20:24:24 GMT
Libby won the HW workers with Harley fox trot. she was champion worker Justine armstrong-small was 2nd in the heavyweight workers with Pipers ovation and was reserve champion. Does anyone know who won the H/W Workers, and who then took the Championship?
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Post by basford on Jul 26, 2009 20:31:02 GMT
just been tol Cotteral Amaretto won B/C's...sorry though it was A&B.. lol Is this Lucinda Craven's pony??? This pony was not placed in the B and C class
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Post by overatdaknee on Jul 26, 2009 21:23:50 GMT
Cheered on the amazing Shetland that made mincemeat of the course- steward was lurking in the middle of the double as it approached and the rider had to circle away. Do hope it didn't get a refusal for it!
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Post by ben123 on Jul 26, 2009 21:36:56 GMT
Well done to the Landon family for winning the lr mm class im sure you will do well at hoys, also well done to Martina on coming 3rd in the mand m first ridden
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Post by hs on Jul 26, 2009 22:57:18 GMT
When will people stop being heightist - some children are actually taller and bigger than some adults. Surely there is not much difference between a 5ft child riding a pony than there is a 5ft adult. Putting age restrictions on classes makes it very difficult for the small adult who wants a pony that is suitable for their height to join in. Perhaps instead of an age restriction they should put a height of rider restriction eg no-one over 5ft and 8 stone on the 122's. I specifically got a M&M as I am not very big and still wanted to compete but did not want a big horse that would be difficult for me to groom and tack up or rug up or get on unaided. I did not want to stand on a box to tack up! My pony is 14h and plenty big enough but if they start with age restrictions on the smaller ponies then it might work its way up like with the show ponies. Showing M&M is one of the only affilated classes that adults can do on ponies. I thought it was very disappointing how in the small 122cm M&M WHP at RI on friday, 3 of the top ponies were ridden by adults. I wish they would put an age limit on the class and realise that these are childrens ponies. Big congratualtionns to Storm and Sam coming 6th-brilliant seeing a shetland doing so well!!!
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Post by girly on Jul 27, 2009 6:35:29 GMT
I thought it was very disappointing how in the small 122cm M&M WHP at RI on friday, 3 of the top ponies were ridden by adults. I wish they would put an age limit on the class and realise that these are childrens ponies. Big congratualtionns to Storm and Sam coming 6th-brilliant seeing a shetland doing so well!!! What is the problem with adults on native ponies. If you knew anything about the history of these ponies you would know that they were not originally children's ponies and have always been ridden by small adults. The marketing of them as children's ponies came later. There are many classes which are age restricted so that children are not always competing against adults. The adults who were riding were certainly not to big for the ponies so what is your problem.
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Post by girly on Jul 27, 2009 9:04:39 GMT
If children want to jump against their own age group let them do plaited classes. M&M ponies are not just childrens ponies. The adults who ride them do so becouse they enjoy them. You will also find that they are quite capable of jumping bigger trackd on bigger ponies if they WANT to
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Post by chloesmum on Jul 27, 2009 9:05:59 GMT
Reading this thread has brought make some very happy memories for me as 10 years ago Chloe was also filmed at the RIHS for a childrens programme on hobbies, again we were approached just like the family this year. It was an amazing experience and Chloe had told the programme that she wouldn't get placed - certainly not a 'hot' favourite. We were thrilled as the 148cm SP she rode was 2nd and it was her last year in class, she rode Langage Springtime for the Jago's and moved up the line with a fantastic gallop and what a thrill to ride in the main arena for the championship. This pony could out gallop the SHPS so they enjoyed their moment. In those days they also had the pairs class and Chloe won this with her best friends sister Clemmie with Nuthurst Whodunnit and Champlers Little Lord. they giggled all the way round having a great time The resulting programme was great, all clipped pieces, the best bit was the Jago's groom Victoria doing Sybil's white socks, speeded up! She took some serious ribbing at future shows! The point of all my ramblings is this - for us this was one of our best days showing, we still look back at the resulting programme video and it brings tears to my eyes. The other thing that really saddens me is that when we did this all Chloes fellow contestants(Packham sisters, Alexandra Fowler, Underwood girls) had nothing but nice things to say and cheered her on all the way, what has changed so much? Is this the price we pay for the dreaded internet, easy access to gossip and the ability to hide behind a name or just that people are so bitter for others success and joy? I don't know the family in the leadrein but 'afan' enjoy your moment and I really hope the programme that goes out gives you as much pleasure as ours did, it will be something to treasure for many years.
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Post by refifsneke on Jul 27, 2009 9:08:46 GMT
Well done to Paul, Julie and family for you big win on Friday. Really pleased for you all - the empty Pimms jug said it all!!
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Post by hs on Jul 27, 2009 9:32:50 GMT
But they surely the nursery stakes accomodate the younger children who want to jump the smaller jumps - currently there is no choice for adults who want to ride the smaller ponies to do the bigger classes even if they are able as for the 122 there is only one class. I do have a bigger pony so would not directly be affected by a rule change - but being 10 does not make you incapable of being able to jump as high as an adult - look at the BSJA ponies for kids of that age - I read about a 9 year old contesting the 143 classes. I think some children would be quite offended be thought of as only capable of doing smaller jumps and they are often more capable than a lot of the adults! Sometimes I wish I had a smaller pony so could jump the smaller jumps as I am not very confident at jumping - I am sure most kids would beat me with ease though. I have no problem with adults riding 14.2hh M&Ms, but I don't see how adults can find it fun or satisfying to jump 2f3 riding against 10 year old children. If small adults want to jump natives they should at least jump a proper height of jump with there own age group.
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Post by pencaedu on Jul 27, 2009 9:35:39 GMT
If everyone is so against adults riding ponies, why do you see so many adults having to ride in their children's ponies before the kid goes in the ring? Perhaps we should make it like dressage, where no-one else is allowed to ride the horse before you do your test - or in this case, go in the ring.
Can't see what the problem is, provided the adult is a suitable height and weight for the pony.
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Post by wyndham on Jul 27, 2009 12:09:22 GMT
I thought it was very disappointing how in the small 122cm M&M WHP at RI on friday, 3 of the top ponies were ridden by adults. I wish they would put an age limit on the class and realise that these are childrens ponies. Big congratualtionns to Storm and Sam coming 6th-brilliant seeing a shetland doing so well!!!
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Post by wyndham on Jul 27, 2009 12:17:32 GMT
I wish people would get their facts straight before having a bit*h ,the three top ponies in the 122 m/m whp were not all adults as the third rider was a TEN year old little girl .
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edna
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Post by edna on Jul 27, 2009 15:04:43 GMT
Large RH 1st - Sirius 2nd - Phil 3rd - Beaurepaure Alyis 4th - Wayne Thorneycroft 5th ? 6th - Jo Bates
Large RH 1st - Sirius 2nd - Phil 3rd - Beaurepaure Alyis 4th - Queenstown 5th Outlaws Ophelia 6th - Kings Gold
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Post by Artistic on Jul 27, 2009 16:56:48 GMT
Wyndham, cool down! What Fuzzybuzzy said was that "3 of the top ponies" which I took to mean 3 of the highest placed ponies probably down to 5th or 6th. She didn't say, "the 3 top ponies" - that's your interpretation.
Part of me doesn't like seeing 12 handers being ridden by adults, but I fully accept that a) there are plenty of classes for children on ponies and b) that these native ponies were not originally bred as children's ponies. However, the advantage an adult has in riding them is a mental one and comes from experience, and plenty of these ponies would not be suitable as children's ponies but I have to accept that this is not a class which is trying to find the most suitable child's pony, but the best M&M whp. Just wish there was a Cradle Stakes at the RI!
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tessa2
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Post by tessa2 on Jul 27, 2009 19:00:12 GMT
Well done Jessie Duncalf on coming 2nd in the mm FR on d**es Diplomead . We are all very proud of you !!!!!!!!!!.
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Post by showmare on Jul 27, 2009 20:22:57 GMT
Noone is knocking the lr fr judging. It was fair although Miss Grummit could do with some etiquette lessons as she insisted on telling the poor soaked little riders to "hurry up" in their strip. I'm quite sure they were doing the best they could in the weather conditions. The judging in the open m and m's was just random. Not only did the ride judge have no idea of what a good show was(obviously not qualified to judge at this level without some riding lessons of her own) but Mr Sharpley was marking according to what he wanted to do well on the day. The reason I know this is that his marks for one particular pony were 9 marks lower than he had given it 3 weeks earlier(being top conformation on that day in a large hoys qualifier) and it was a pony he had written an article on last year about what a fabulous type of pony he is for his breed. The pony looked fantastic on the day, has no blemishes and moves straight and true. I ask you Mr Sharpley to justify yourself? It is about time all judges answer our questions. Judging is not a thankless task, it is a powerful position that used to be respected, but many judges are making a mockery of this. If you can't be fair then step down and make room for new blood. Come on competitors, make a stand. Let us all complain about this blatant overuse of power and get rid of these bloody awful judges! Seems unlikely that Miss Grummitt would say such a thing. She is a very good judge who knows her stuff.
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Post by winston on Jul 30, 2009 8:50:00 GMT
Can someone tell me how Brynoden Sirius, the M&M LR winner is bred please.
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tiny
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Post by tiny on Jul 30, 2009 9:35:25 GMT
he is by Roseisle panty tudor out of Brynoden scarlet
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Post by winston on Jul 30, 2009 21:36:38 GMT
Thank you. ;D
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Post by tabbyx on Sept 19, 2009 21:58:16 GMT
what did everyone think of the ride judging in the riding horses
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Post by overatdaknee on Sept 20, 2009 7:21:30 GMT
If you are talking about the opens I thought the lady rode beautifully, was professional and very pleasant- had a smile for them all.
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Post by tabbyx on Sept 20, 2009 8:09:11 GMT
yes i was talking about the opens. i'll tell rosemary when i next see her. she loves judging at big shows.
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Post by overatdaknee on Sept 20, 2009 18:32:53 GMT
Please do! Was watching a friend in there and thought the judge was super!
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Post by tabbyx on Sept 21, 2009 15:36:23 GMT
she'll be really pleased to here it.she works so hard with her horses and has always given me lessons for reduced fees because my sister used to work for her and rode one of her horses she is a lovely lady and i know it was an honour for her to judge the classes at RIHS as it's one of her favourite shows.
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