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Post by blackknight on Mar 27, 2010 21:45:42 GMT
some results that i know:
A champ & supreme- Kilbey Family Lacy Busbee
C champ, owner/bred champ and reserve supreme Dycott Touch of Class shown brilliantly by Jack Bowerman
C youngstock champ, reserve C & reserve owner/bred and reserve supreme youngstock Dycott First Impression shown by John Bennett
D champion Danaway Black Harry D youngstock champ and supreme youngstock Tynbryn Rolo show by Jack for Dycott stud.
CONGRATS to al the winners but especially to Ceri and co for a lovely well run show with alot of beautiful ponies forward
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Post by nickiop on Mar 28, 2010 8:47:33 GMT
Alot of very beautiful ponies and cobs there!! Very much enjoyed the show when we eventually got there!! The D stallion class was fabulous to watch, well done to the organisers a fantastic show!! xxxxxxxx
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Post by lexy on Mar 28, 2010 12:48:52 GMT
blacknight - think it is Trevallion Black Harry ? (but belongs to Danaway stud) For the A's, Youngstock Champ & Reserve A champion - Colne Torpedo (yearling colt) We took a 3yr old filly, and also brought a friends 3yr old filly who was also bred by my mum :-) Our results were: 3rd Floreat Creme Chantilly (by Flydon Henadur, ex Forlan Welsh Cream) - owned by Sarah Page 5th Floreat Primrose (by Glenfield Chip ex Lacy Primula) - owned by Ann Fisher So very pleased with the girls, as first show of year and both looking bit immature compared to some others. Classes in the As all had good entries, 10 in our class. We didnt stay for the Cs and Ds in the end after early start, bet it was great to watch all those cob stallions! Great show, great venue. And really glad to see lots of entries. Thanks Ceri ! Lexy.
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Post by fourwhites on Mar 28, 2010 14:11:59 GMT
We had a great show ,the first of the season so we were very pleased with a 1st in the yrling sec B colts with Ryehall Debussy, a 2nd in a very strong sec B stallion class with our 4 yr old Slades Golden Broom. Our partbred yrling won his class and was 1st reserve ch pb .Theres nothing better than seeing your homebreds doing well, thanks to ceri and the team for a great show ,it is a shame we could nt stay longer.
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Post by lexy on Mar 28, 2010 14:37:16 GMT
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Post by fanfare on Mar 28, 2010 16:55:09 GMT
Can someone tell me what it is with all the music it was awful, it was like being in a blooming nightclub. It really spoiled the whole thing and i did not even stay for the A championship. I must be getting really old.
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Post by sparrow on Mar 29, 2010 22:03:34 GMT
I agree with fanfare - the music was awful.
I must be getting old too - I was brought up to believe that if you organised something you couldn't compete in it. Sadly this doesn't apply to this show.
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Post by hunter on Mar 29, 2010 23:03:06 GMT
wich of the organisers were showing then sparrow
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Post by sparrow on Mar 30, 2010 13:21:21 GMT
Secretary & Committee Members
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Post by hunter on Mar 30, 2010 18:33:35 GMT
and what reults did they achive ?
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Post by lexy on Mar 30, 2010 22:07:57 GMT
And why shouldnt organisers be able to enter ponies for their own show, as long as normal rules re judge having bred or owned the pony dont apply ?
I am sure the judges are able to be professional about it ! And also sure that the judges know a lot more people in the classes than just the organiser/committee members too.
Oh and for the record, the secretary's poniies did no better than 3rd so definitely no special favours going on there !! Dont know who the committee members were to comment.
Lexy
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Post by poop on Mar 30, 2010 22:33:35 GMT
well isnt it funny how some people just never have anything positive to say!
As one of the 'organisers' - id like to set the record straight. The show was set up and run by only 4 of us, Ceri Fell, myself and Mr and Mrs Deller. 2 months ago there was no Towerlands welsh show at all, potentially another good show lost, due to changes at Towerlands they no longer wanted to run it themselves. The show is now independent of Towerlands and we are subject to the same hire charges of any other society. The name has had to remain 'Towerlands' Welsh Medal Show in order to retain the WPCS medals. It is only due to the dedication of Ceri that the show took place at all and was pulled together in a short space of time.
As anyone running a Welsh medal show will know, good entries are key to keeping the medal status, or indeed going for 'upgrade' in future. We all entered a few ponies to contribute to numbers but none were dead certs and I believe all the committee achieving nothing higher than a 3rd!
There is nothing in the rules at any shows preventing committee members taking part, it happens with many WPCS, NPS, NCPA, PUK, BSPS and county shows that I have been to and I believe that our entries were in the spirit of good sportsmanship, supporting the show purely for the reasons stated above.
I agree that it wasnt all perfect, the sound system was all over the place at times, the curtains wouldnt close... its called teething trouble, but we had lots of happy customers who agree that the atmosphere is what sets this show apart from all others. Given that we had entries from Lancashire, Yorkshire, Derbyshire, and the South Coast, as well as the local area. I'd consider it a success.
We are always open to suggestions and ideas, and offers of help, perhaps Sparrow, you might want to offer your services next year or even just something a little more constructive than inaccurate remarks.
The show has already been booked for next year and it will be even bigger and better than this years! Liesl
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Post by sparrow on Mar 30, 2010 23:36:17 GMT
Wensleystud - You are just contradicting yourself.
You say "The show was set up and run by only four of us" and "We all entered a few ponies"
You then accuse me of making inaccurate remarks, perhaps you can tell what they were, because as far as I can tell you have just confirmed my remarks.
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Post by sparrow on Mar 30, 2010 23:47:59 GMT
and what reults did they achive ? I don't know - what with the awful music, the dreadful catering and a coffee machine that broke down we went home for lunch.
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Post by poop on Mar 31, 2010 1:14:11 GMT
quote "I was brought up to believe that if you organised something you couldn't compete in it. Sadly this doesn't apply to this show"
Well thats inaccurate for a start, you are implying that we dont follow rules or ettiquette, and that somehow the organisation of this show is less than transparent. Your last comment seems to imply that I am lying about who the committee are and what we entered?? I think i have been more than open about our organisation, not that I should have to justify it, so how am I contradicting myself?
So you must be mistaken, as I said the show was set up and organised by the 4 of us, were you present at the meeting we held in Brentwood 2 months ago? If you read the pre show flyer it clearly stated the 4 of our names. I actually feel I did very little, Ceri did all the hard work and I certainly dont want any credit for it. I really don't know what your problem is. We were very grateful for the additional help that many of our local welsh enthusiasts offered on the day, without which the show wouldn't have been what it was - such as Viv Weston who did show day secretary duties, Jenny Kilbey, Lesley and Maud who did the sponsors and judges catering and Tony Tilley who as always did a grand job in the Commentary box, also Carly, Wayne, our sponsors, and anyone else I forget to mention, our grateful thanks for your time and help, its thanks to people like these that we still have lovely shows to go to.
Im afraid Sparrow, we cannot be held responsible for Towerlands catering or coffee machines, so did you bring this to their attention? However if you think there is a more suitable venue offering a better quality of facilities in East Anglia, perhaps you would be so kind as to let us know, as I havent come across one yet.
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Post by nickiop on Mar 31, 2010 6:49:57 GMT
Well a big thank you and well done from us to all the organisers and committee, we thought it was a super show with a great atmosphere, some fantastic entries forward without doubt some superb quality forward! Well done all and we look forward to visiting you again next year!! Hopefully we will go the correct route next year!! Whilst I was plaiting up the partbred Dan was merrily driving towards Brentwood instead of Braintree so we covered an extra 50 miles I think and missed the partbred class! So it made it a long journey there but well worth it!!....and not from our results either as they were pretty average just thought the show was a great spectacle for the spectators due to the entries and atmosphere!! xxxxx
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Post by Milliesmum on Mar 31, 2010 7:00:25 GMT
Well it sounds like the organisers stepped into the breach at very short notice to put this show on, it's a big event in the welsh calendar, and if there's any criticism, didn't it ought to be of a constructive nature? OK maybe the day wasn't perfect for everybody, but if all people get is moans and aggro on here, they're not going to bother next year. Then that will be another show lost.
These people obviously put a lot of effort in so that the show could go ahead - as far as I can see they need support, not slating, especially if you want to continue competing at this event.
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Post by hunter on Mar 31, 2010 7:33:07 GMT
as far as i can see it was a good show enjoyed by 99% of the people and one bitter suspisious moaner . yet again (yawn!!) it seems we are back to judge bashing !! if you dont like the set up then dont go ! SIMPLES !
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Post by kizzy on Mar 31, 2010 11:32:54 GMT
Well we went and enjoyed ourselves. My A yearling filly was 4th in a very very large class. It was her first show ever and behaved beautifully. She did think the lap of honour was time for a hoolie, and wasn't keen on the rubber mat at the door, but as a first outing she came away happy and loaded and travelled home peacefully. My C yearling filly was 5th o/o 8, and didn't behave very well, but got a rossette at the first attempt, and again travelled home peacefully.
I love going to Towerlands and have been on to the Welsh medal show most years since it re-started under this name. A big thank you to the organisers for making my baby's debute in the ring go smoothly. I don't know any of you personnally, but know of you through mutual friends. Again Thank You for a well run and much looked forward too day.
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Post by lynne on Mar 31, 2010 12:04:02 GMT
BIG WELL DONE TO ALL WHO GAVE THEIR TIME & EFFORT TO GET THIS SHOW ON. DID'NT ATTEND BUT HEAR IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS. HOPE TO BE THERE NEXT YEAR.
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Post by Stacey on Mar 31, 2010 13:55:51 GMT
Sparrow, if you actually came onto this forum and gave constructive criticism instead of making sweeping statements whilst hiding behind an alias then by all accounts you would have a lot more credibility. Luckily, I'm sure the committee have better things to do with their time, like planning next year's show which will be even better than the excellent show that was this year. Well done everyone with their results, see you all next year And thanks to the committee for keeping the show running.
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Post by lexy on Mar 31, 2010 14:33:37 GMT
I will definitely be planning to be going to this show again next year. The combination of good & friendly organisation (e.g. providing class numbers before the show - thanks!), great surface in the indoor school, good entries, hot food canteen, indoor seating etc .... all adds up to a great show to be the first outing of the year. And if the organisers want to enter ponies in the classes, then fine by me. Bring it on Oh and for the record, I rather enjoyed the music ! It was not too loud to be intrusive and thought it added a bit more atmosphere. Lexy
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Post by Jolie on Mar 31, 2010 15:15:11 GMT
I like this show, the only thing I find a nuinassnce (sp) is the lateness of the championships, we were meant to stay for the gelding championship but I feel it is too much to ask my pony to stand on thr lorry from 8am to very late in the afternoon, yes I could have booked a stable but dont really have the money to do so and I have other ponies at home to get back, however, we had a good morning out.
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Post by lexy on Mar 31, 2010 15:33:37 GMT
They cant run the championships till all classes are finished ..... so often end up being late. I guess being an indoor show then day runs longer as less classes can run in parallel. But have had this problem at summer shows as well where have been there from 9am-6pm before to stay for championships.
Lexy
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Post by armada on Mar 31, 2010 18:38:37 GMT
I think the committee should be congratulated on organising such a successful show at short notice. We went, and granted we had a good day, but the music did'nt bother me, at all, the fact that organisers entered their own ponies, did not bother me at all, I cant vouch for the catering or the coffee machine as I did'nt go into the restaurant. The entries on the whole were good and there were many quality animals forward, and the stands were packed with spectators. I suppose the only thing for me, was the top ring for the part-breds was quite small, and considering numbers in those classes I can understand why, but having a pony with a powerful big-striding trot, I just felt unable to get the best out of her in the space available. I also had to leave before the later championships due to a yard of ponies with no-one there to feed them, and my rather severe astigmatism which makes driving in the dark a difficult experience. However, it was our first visit to this show, and we will not hesitate to enter again. Well done to you all, you should be very proud of your show!
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Post by hunter on Apr 1, 2010 15:05:04 GMT
well i think its clear the show was a great success and the attempt at poo stiring has been well and truley quashed and silenced !!!!LOL.
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Post by blackknight on Apr 1, 2010 18:22:06 GMT
Only went as a spectator and enjoyed the show and its atmosphere.
Not sure what is being implied by Sparrow but i do have a marked catalogue for the C's and i cannot see anywhere on there that the comitee were favoured, bearing in mind that The Dellers and Ceri are C people. The judging was fair and consistant (contrary to what i had heard rumoured) and he stuck to a type that he liked all the way through. Very easy to follow from the ringside.
Towerlands canteen is dire, we were there for PUK the weekend before and ended up going into town to the chippy!!! Still, nothing to do with the Welsh show. Just remember to pack your own food ;D
Top marks to the organisers and lets hope for a Silver medal show in the area 2011!!!!
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Post by sparrow on Apr 1, 2010 22:41:28 GMT
I find it interesting that with over a 1000 viewings only, I believe, 6 people have made any comment about my message.
Lexy - are you forgetting the rules which apply to Judges ie. not to speak to competitors before the class, not to accept hospitality from competitors before the class etc. This might prove a little difficult, and embarassing for the judge, when the organisers/stewards/helpers are either in the hospitality area or providing the hospitality.
Wensley Stud. I have not implied that you lied about anything neither did I mention anything about the way the show ran or the judges, stewards, sponsors etc. This has all come from you.
Milliesmum - I didn't say I competed at the event.
Stacey - I havn't made any sweeping statements only my beliefs and a few facts. I'm not ' hiding behind an alias ' any more than you are.
Hunter - Where have I mentioned the word judge? I am not, as you call it 'judge bashing'
Black Knight - Thank you for agreeing that the canteen is dire, but I would point out that the people you refer to both have and entered D's.
I still believe, despite your comments, that anyone organising an event should not compete it it. I am not saying that any of the judges at this event favoured the organisers - I don't know. Someone said that one of the organisers ponies came third as if that proved that there was no favouritism, I wonder if the competitors who came below that pony were of the same opinion. They may well have gone home thinking that they were beaten by a pony whose owner chose the judge, paid the judges expenses, socialised with the judge before the class etc etc.
There are always messages being posted on HG about judges being facey, incompetent etc etc. People are not going to be encouraged back into the show ring or stop, as hunter calls it 'judge bashing' unless everyone/event appears to be squeeky clean.
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Post by hunter on Apr 2, 2010 0:54:14 GMT
sparrow you are judge bashing by the simple implication that the judge placed a comittie members pony 3rd because they were comittie members !!!! i feel sorry for you it must be awfull to live your life having such a suspicious mind .
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Post by poop on Apr 2, 2010 1:59:04 GMT
quote "I have not implied that you lied about anything neither did I mention anything about the way the show ran or the judges, stewards, sponsors etc. This has all come from you"
please see your reply #12 - please can you explain exactly what you were meaning then?
If I was in a class and thought the judge was going to do someone a favour, but then placed that person 3rd, personally i'd be wondering what was wrong with the pony for it not to have won! and if i was below it, id be wondering how I could have improved my exhibit or looking at what its faults were, not jumping on the 'facey judge' bandwagon.
quote "There are always messages being posted on HG about judges being facey, incompetent etc etc. People are not going to be encouraged back into the show ring or stop, as hunter calls it 'judge bashing' unless everyone/event appears to be squeeky clean"
I do wish people would start looking objectively at what and why judges place in the order they do, instead of grasping at the 'facey' cop out, of course it occasionally happens to all of us. But most of the time it is all in the mind, and the winging posts on here are often from people who are not willing or able to crictically evaluate their own and the other exhibits in the ring. I actually believe that all of the judges were very discrete Before they judged, and did not spend time in the sponsors area until after they had finished their sections, of course they had to speak to the organisers to report them having arrived. I think you are clutching at straws and very contradictory yourself, you admit to having left before the A championship, so you havent even had the first hand view of the judging at much of the show.
I have to say that unless you are prepared to state your identity and stand by your comments publicly, as I have, that I have to assume you are what is commonly known on here as a 'troll' who just wishes to inflame and stir trouble. You have yet to make any constructive suggestions. And yes I find your comments insulting and hurtful as someone who has only wanted to help put on a good show for the competitors, please dont feel you have to attend next time.
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