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Post by Welshy86 on Apr 4, 2010 14:01:23 GMT
i think it comes down to sportsmanship and morals, i cant see how it wouldn't of occured that by entering this class, it would be seen by others to be taking the p..s, imo, i have no ties to anyone at show or in anyother way, just my opinion, i wouldnt of personally entered, just as i wouldnt enter if i was close friends to the judge, or had any involvement with them outside of the ring, but this is just my opinion Personally i certainly wouldn't have entered the class practically knowing i was going to get placed 1st, morally it is wrong and i haven't got the front to do such a thing. we all know how much it costs to enter these classes, the effort that goes in and the travelling people do to get to the shows. I wouldn't want the ticket because it is not a genuine win and i wouldn't have actually achieved anything myself. I'm sure this has ruffled a good few peoples feathers and i'm sure it shall make no difference to the winners, they will keep the ticket regardless of anything anyone says - i hope said person is happy and feels satisfied. It upsets me that showing is like this I hope "hairylover" gets her ticket and beats them at the RI show!!
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Post by snowflake on Apr 4, 2010 14:04:48 GMT
yeah good luck hairylover!! do hg proud!!! x x
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2010 14:16:56 GMT
Rule 477E page 74 of the bsps 2010 rule and show handbook
BSPS judges must not knowingly - E - Adjudicate in a class if he owns or has owned,bred,SOLD, leased, loaned, produced or received FINANCIAL GAIN from an exhibit in that class.
I believe this rule has been breached and the win should be stripped from the first placed pony.
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Post by xlucyx on Apr 4, 2010 14:20:37 GMT
Posn PULL-IN Number Horse/Pony Rider 1st 1 170 Millpond Look So Cheeky Glen Allen 2nd 9 890 Lyndell Jokers Minx Kerry Mcgoldrick 3rd 3 550 Millpond Look Again Amelia Harrison 4th 5 682 Shybonts Broadways Dazzling Moments Rebecca Dennis 5th 2 158 Winchester D Sara Parrott 6th 11 766 Fanville David Brogan Taverner 7th - 968 Designer Label Kirsty Ahern 8th 4 292 Brynteg Llywnau Daffodil Gemma James 9th - 321 Pantywaun Commanche Skye Houldsworth 10th 7 506 Tara O Hara Victoria Harvie 6 782 Snaafi Bright Spark Alexandra Hollings 10 981 Caris Lhee Showdown Alice Cook - 360 Clasicolours City Slicker Leah Parsonage - 967 Chekko Alexandra Ahern - 340 Spirit (Seeing Is Believing) Grace Michaelides - 239 Oaklawn Gypsy Chloe Gunn - 679 Dexters Daisy Samantha Manning - 765 Snowberry Swan Juile Thickpenny 8 354 Weggs Little Shellay Katinka Brogaard - 187 Mini Tidkin Soldier Charlotte Cooney 12 651 Murphy XVI Abigail Gresty - 877 Penbretti Diamond Dancer Georgina Wilkes - 583 Grafitti S Davies - 925 Millpond Looks The Business L Metcalf (24 forward)
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Post by jamillia on Apr 4, 2010 14:22:57 GMT
it would help loads if you knew when it is going to be so fixed save us some time effort and money!
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Post by indigo on Apr 4, 2010 14:45:33 GMT
Surely given all this bad feeling, someone involved with the class should do the responsible thing and inform the bsps secretary in the show office. They would be upset to know there's been so much criticism of a bsps judge. An official decision can then be made. As it has rightly been pointed out, shows can't survive without the support of competitors and what's the point of rules without them being upheld?
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Post by trends on Apr 4, 2010 14:54:41 GMT
HOYS large SRT 1ST Lochill High Society 2nd Foxy Formula.... Well done Team Harvey great result
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Post by hairy on Apr 4, 2010 14:57:28 GMT
Surely given all this bad feeling, someone involved with the class should do the responsible thing and inform the bsps secretary in the show office. They would be upset to know there's been so much criticism of a bsps judge. An official decision can then be made. As it has rightly been pointed out, shows can't survive without the support of competitors and what's the point of rules without them being upheld? I have looked into this and if I was to write to bsps regarding this I would need two further letters of support from unrelated members for this to be investigated....... However I do not want to qualify this way (should the first place be removed) and would think some would see this as sour grapes when it is not, I would prefer to go out again and try and qualify and have the enjoyment of being called forward as 1st place.....
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Post by elsie on Apr 4, 2010 15:04:55 GMT
Well said Hayley I am sure you will get your place in the right manner, interesting that other people involved in this don't take the same approach when it comes to complaining (Royal Windsor springs to mind!)
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Post by fayeandash on Apr 4, 2010 15:07:00 GMT
Thats the right attitude to have hairylover, and i'm sure you will qualify very soon.
Huge well done to Misha Holden and Indiana James, 2nd HOYS N/C/T coloured pony.
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Post by indigo on Apr 4, 2010 15:07:22 GMT
Hairylover - I really feel for you:) I completely understand what you are saying and you must do what YOU feel is the right thing for YOU XX
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Post by stormyskies on Apr 4, 2010 15:14:21 GMT
Any hoys nct pony results?
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Post by m@m on Apr 4, 2010 15:18:52 GMT
i really respect your comment hairy,and am sure you will qualify but it just doesnt seem right or just, that these things get over looked, and like indigo said why have rules in the first place if they can just be broken when it suits
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Post by faye1 on Apr 4, 2010 15:18:54 GMT
Any hoys nct pony results? Class 151 CHAPS HOYS N/C/T Coloured Pony Posn PULL-IN Number Horse/Pony Rider 1st 3 565 Llanafanfawr Brandy Snap Joanne Shaw 2nd 1 389 Indiana James Misha Holden 3rd 2 704 The Pied Piper VII Karen Talbot 4th 4 255 Partial Eclipse II Chelsea Szostak 5th 5 592 Chantilly Lace IV Sarah Harrison 6th 6 940 Moortown Frilly Victoria Myrondidis 7th 7 178 Checkmate Chancer Elizabeth Barton 8th 11 119 Dolsey Abigail Hurst 9th 12 591 Woodend Pride Lara-Jayne Portnall 10th 9 666 G W Dubya P Hoyle (24 forward) From The Show Register
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Post by ponycrazy on Apr 4, 2010 15:23:05 GMT
Any open M&M results?
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Post by stormyskies on Apr 4, 2010 15:23:40 GMT
Thanks
Any Chaps nct pony restricted results?
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Post by ada on Apr 4, 2010 16:01:27 GMT
just come home from our first visit to bsps champs, really enjoyed it, though lots of mud and VERY cold!!! brilliant job welldone to m&m lead rein springtimes jackpot, chloe and sara, also 13.2 show pony , chiddock unlimited and ellie, beautiful show, 3rd in rihs, and coloured indiana james and misha holden 2nd in 1st HOYS QUALIFIER. brilliant. xxxxxxx.
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Post by becki on Apr 4, 2010 16:10:33 GMT
Any hoys nct pony results? Class 151 CHAPS HOYS N/C/T Coloured Pony Posn PULL-IN Number Horse/Pony Rider 1st 3 565 Llanafanfawr Brandy Snap Joanne Shaw 2nd 1 389 Indiana James Misha Holden 3rd 2 704 The Pied Piper VII Karen Talbot 4th 4 255 Partial Eclipse II Chelsea Szostak 5th 5 592 Chantilly Lace IV Sarah Harrison 6th 6 940 Moortown Frilly Victoria Myrondidis 7th 7 178 Checkmate Chancer Elizabeth Barton 8th 11 119 Dolsey Abigail Hurst 9th 12 591 Woodend Pride Lara-Jayne Portnall 10th 9 666 G W Dubya P Hoyle (24 forward) From The Show Register Llanafanfawr Brandy Snap was ridden by Sarah Challinor
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Post by andy1 on Apr 4, 2010 16:11:09 GMT
Well done to katie white on Mr Socks
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Post by watertray53 on Apr 4, 2010 16:28:33 GMT
I have looked into this and if I was to write to bsps regarding this I would need two further letters of support from unrelated members for this to be investigated.......
AND you have to send the complaint by recorded delivery other wise it wont be looked into at head office. Even with all this effort you as a member do not get to know of any decisions made by head office in relation to your complaint.
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Post by dagcol on Apr 4, 2010 16:46:25 GMT
had a fab 1st winter champs with Cosford Wishes in her first season, 3rd lr heritage novice and 7th Rihs M/M lr.. was so proud unfortunately our LR SHP is a fair weather girl and with the mud after 4 very dirty days we decided to miss the LR SHP hoys and head for home .. xx Good luck to all in the supeme
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Post by anthea on Apr 4, 2010 16:51:21 GMT
well done elle and gem fab result 14.h shp hoys winner roll on hoys xxxx
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Post by boohoo on Apr 4, 2010 17:08:11 GMT
Well done to Elle and Highmede Night Surprise. 1st and off to Hoys. Really pleased for you Elle , your show was beautiful and what a gallop. congratulations. Well done to Beatrice and Van Gogh 2nd, Mummy and Daddy are really proud of you Beaty.
Huge congratulations to Katie White, what a show you have had, we are keeping our fingers crossed for you for tonight- GO Mr Socks !!!! And thanks again for all your help today.
And of course Philip on Hanmere Showman- 1st and off to Hoys !!! Super Duper.
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Post by dagcol on Apr 4, 2010 17:24:40 GMT
any hoys lr shp reasults as yet
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Post by Sara on Apr 4, 2010 17:48:14 GMT
Does anyone have the marks for the hoys coloureds? Thanks
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Post by bemused on Apr 4, 2010 18:40:06 GMT
HOYS 153 SHP 1st Kilmiston Sky Hawk - Emma Jackson 2nd Music Trend - Duncan Roberts 3rd Pendle First Light
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Post by lexy on Apr 4, 2010 19:24:37 GMT
Just wanted to add that my mother's home bred pony Floreat Creme de Cassis has had great show, especially considering she has only been broken less than a year, and at her current home about 6 months. 7th - M&M Restricted First Ridden 4th - M&M Open Lead Rein 4th - M&M Open First Ridden Well done and many thanks to Penny & Catherine Hudson, Olivia Brown, Jack (her lead rein jockey) and rest of the team for doing a super job with her. So looking forward to seeing her at the NPS champs in the summer Lexy
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Post by concerned on Apr 4, 2010 19:24:45 GMT
Really think complaints should be made. All people involved would definately complain if the boot was on the other foot.
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Post by hotty on Apr 4, 2010 19:36:43 GMT
any hoys lr shp reasults as yet peter emmerson 1st, and sarah emmerson 2nd, well done
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Post by columbine on Apr 4, 2010 19:42:19 GMT
Why don't those that feel something is amiss stop griping on HG and make the complaints then. You must all be BSPS members and know how to do it. Page 18 Rule 73, 2010 rule book. I just want to know results!!!
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