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Post by SP on Jun 4, 2007 17:15:59 GMT
The show pony and pba judging was not much bette! The 14.2 show pony that qualified for RIHS didnt even do an in hand show, how could that win, it walked away but would not trot back and still came in to win, that will be good at RIHS! The pony that was pulled top in the PBA stopped dead in the middle of its show, turned around and still came 2nd against 4 other ponies that had done really good shows! If I had been in these 2 classes on the day I would not be a happy person...
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Post by abe on Jun 4, 2007 17:21:39 GMT
Anyone know which C qualified please?
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Post by showing 2 ponies on Jun 4, 2007 17:47:36 GMT
if the girl riding the dartmoor was pulled out of a show pony class how did she manage to get the correct number on for that pony all ponies entered get different numbers sure it not difficult to change your jacket if you can manage to change number! Yep, the secret of showing 2 ponies without the necessity of a jacket change in between classes is - fine elastic (blended to jacket colour) put the numbers back to back and one upside down, cut to shape if required, thread elastic through holes, and voila just flip number over when required, saves loadsa time and panic when in a hurry, clashing classes etc.etc.
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Post by sp and pba on Jun 4, 2007 18:40:36 GMT
hello could you please tell me the full results of the show ponies particularily the 14.2 and the part bred arabs please, large and small
thank you
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Post by SP on Jun 4, 2007 21:01:20 GMT
SP Results 148
1st - Bay ridden by Jemima Walker
PBA Smalls
1st - Kelsborrow Creditor 2nd - Andrea Boyles - SHP (Q) 3rd - Black Pony - Gilbert Scotts 4th - Oberland Excelsis
sorry dont know anymore
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Beryl
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Post by Beryl on Jun 5, 2007 12:14:48 GMT
Im sorry to all those that believe the c and d class was not judged very well because i believe they were judged extremely well! The section D that won broughton pride is an exception stamp of cob and deserved to win out right. That cob has gone from strength to strength and carol and the broughton stud should be very proud for being the only m&m to do a proper display all day.They were a joy to watch and it was great to see a rider so happy with the performance they gave! I beieve all cobs should start looking a bit more like her, true to type and all that! Don't get me wrong i love pthe judge, but shouldn't we be breeding them more like they should be and were originally?And as for the connermara class i think that was the worst judged class of the day the first i would have agreed on,but some of the others i could have taken or probally left them!
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Post by abe on Jun 5, 2007 16:03:46 GMT
So which C qualified then? anyone have the full results from the hoys ridden?
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Post by five on Jun 5, 2007 16:47:07 GMT
Hmm not according to area 25 its the Miss coates and Ms H thomas doing the HOYS M&M WHP qual there.
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Post by steve on Jun 5, 2007 16:52:17 GMT
So which C qualified then? We were in the class and I dont have a clue what it was
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Post by not right on Jun 5, 2007 17:09:34 GMT
Beryl you obviously are friends with carol or have connections with that pony i agree the pony did not do anything wrong but it was nothing special it does not move well in IMO and at the end of the day it would not have won had an nobody been riding it and i also think it is bad manners to take rent a mob to a ringside with you that make a big commotion after the pony had finished its show trying to influence the judges mark, noone else did it a thumbs up to my girl was sufficient.
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Post by photos on Jun 5, 2007 18:51:02 GMT
anyone know who the photographer was??
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Post by nikki on Jun 5, 2007 19:14:16 GMT
The photographer was www.equinational.co.ukDoes anyone know the results of the Novice SP class at area 6 as on the photographer's website there are some pictures of a couple of very nice novice showponies and it would be good to follow their progress?
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Post by observer on Jun 5, 2007 19:24:17 GMT
The section C was Lychfields Scrumpy Jack. I believe it is with Katy Marriott because she was stripping it.
How can anyone say that the judges were facey when no one knows the C or the girl on board. It did catch my eye on the go round and deserved its pull. It did a nice show with an excellent gallop. Quite a few of the other C's blew their brains or were very over produced in their way of going, very tied in and not free to travel in their natural way.
I saw the pony stood up outside the ring and thought it was a lovely stamp of a C, Lots of bone and depth but still with the nice pony qualities that so many seem to have lost.
I thought that the judging was fair in that all classes seemed to follow the same trends. The judges obviously decided what they were looking for. Any thing too flashy, firey, overbent, or cresty were put down the line. This seemed to be the case in each section. This is all MY OPINION. please don't jump on my back!!!
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Post by no on Jun 5, 2007 20:52:47 GMT
does anyone know who won the hoys 122cm show hunter pony
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Post by dont agree on Jun 5, 2007 21:56:49 GMT
Im sorry to all those that believe the c and d class was not judged very well because i believe they were judged extremely well! The section D that won broughton pride is an exception stamp of cob and deserved to win out right. That cob has gone from strength to strength and carol and the broughton stud should be very proud for being the only m&m to do a proper display all day.They were a joy to watch and it was great to see a rider so happy with the performance they gave! I beieve all cobs should start looking a bit more like her, true to type and all that! Don't get me wrong i love pthe judge, but shouldn't we be breeding them more like they should be and were originally?And as for the connermara class i think that was the worst judged class of the day the first i would have agreed on,but some of the others i could have taken or probally left them! It must have improved tremendously since last week then.
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Post by not right on Jun 6, 2007 6:56:36 GMT
Observer get real in most classes the producers do not ride the ponies especially in SP SHP however that does not stop favours going on they know the pony as soon as it walks in the ring. and to say the section C stood out is a total LIE there were some lovely ponies forward on Saturday and that was not 1 of them on the lap of honour people were shaking their heads at the ringside
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Post by observer on Jun 6, 2007 17:39:00 GMT
Er... if that pony won because it was with Katy Marriott then why was katy not even pulled on the section A when it did a perfect go round in the A`s and B`s? Hardly facy! Think you need to get this chip off your shoulder about producers having favours done just because they win classes! I watched the class and loved the C. Please DONT call me a lier for having an opinion. As for people shaking their heads, i was with a group that were pleased for the C. I didn't say there were no lovely ponies in the class, just that this one did do a lovely go round and caught my eye. No need to get aggressive its all opinion, CHILL OUT!!!!
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Post by get over it on Jun 6, 2007 18:48:21 GMT
Omigod. Why dont you ALL get over your selves and over other people. At the end of the day that pony won and thats that. Moaning and groaning about it aint going to make you win. I come on this website to have a look at some results and instead i find people having a good old bit*h over things. GET OVER YOUR SELVES PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats all i have to say
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Post by super on Jun 6, 2007 19:55:47 GMT
does anyone know who won the 122cm show hunter pony please
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Post by SHP on Jun 6, 2007 21:23:31 GMT
Hi
12hh shp was a very nice bright bay pony with Cath Evans 2nd was with Kate Carter
Sorry dont know any pony's names just saw who was standing with them!
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Post by not right on Jun 7, 2007 7:28:12 GMT
get over it, if you only come on here for results that is up to you however this is a forum for disscussion between people on what they think about shows, judges etc etc so if i or someone else is not happy with the judging then we say so and if we shut up and put up then nothing will ever be done about bad or facey judging and the fact that some judges come on here and have their say proves that some are listening to our moans. I do not moan every week but Solihull was very bad judging IMO
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Post by observer on Jun 7, 2007 9:10:23 GMT
'Get over it'... Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy disscussion!!!
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Beryl
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Post by Beryl on Jun 7, 2007 10:25:08 GMT
Get over it- i agree with you i have watched and read this website for a while now and it seems to me there is alot of the green eyed monster going on in here! Atleast someone had the guts to say it! And to not right- fortunately im one of those spectators that doesn't need to get paid to see when a horse goes well. I agree maybe if carol wasn't riding it wouldn't have been seen, but that is what showing is about. Alot of the ponies that compete would not get placed unless they had a decent rider! To say it was not your cup of tea is fair enough and you are entitled to your opinion, but at the end of the day the judges like it and the judges decision is final! And as for the so called 'rent a mob' What do you think its going to be like when they get to the qualifier? There not going to be sat on there hands then are they?
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Post by not right on Jun 7, 2007 10:47:22 GMT
Beryl you are confusing me firstly you say the section D was superb example of a D, then next you agree that it would not have got knowticed if Carol had not been riding it, well that statement in itsself is a disgrace, good judges look at the ponies not the riders and any judge looking up to see who is sat on top before they decide they like a pony is not fit to judge.
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Post by cob breeder on Jun 7, 2007 11:12:58 GMT
Beryl you are confusing me firstly you say the section D was superb example of a D, then next you agree that it would not have got knowticed if Carol had not been riding it, well that statement in itsself is a disgrace, good judges look at the ponies not the riders and any judge looking up to see who is sat on top before they decide they like a pony is not fit to judge. You said it was an exectional stamp of a cob, why has it been down the line in all the other qualifiers, perhaps the rider wasnt know by the other judges. I think you had better go through your Welsh Journal before you comment on stamps of cobs.
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Post by shocked on Jun 7, 2007 14:05:30 GMT
observer i would say you must know this pony in someway as no1 has ever heard of the section c b4 and you trying to make out it was the best and went the best, far from it! i would not say it was a true type section c but thats my opinion even though i have breed section Cs. as for its show it was far from the best its most defiantly did not go 2 hoys standard and when it got pulled in i was shocked i had not even noticed it!
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Post by Get over it on Jun 7, 2007 15:03:31 GMT
get over it, if you only come on here for results that is up to you however this is a forum for disscussion between people on what they think about shows, judges etc etc so if i or someone else is not happy with the judging then we say so and if we shut up and put up then nothing will ever be done about bad or facey judging and the fact that some judges come on here and have their say proves that some are listening to our moans. I do not moan every week but Solihull was very bad judging IMO Yeh i agree there is a hell of a lot of facey judging going on. but if you want to stop it do something about it and stop moaning. Having a discussion is fine. Fantastic idea. But alot of this is bit*hing. and the comment isn't just to you. Manybe you do just discuss.
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Post by sharp on Jun 7, 2007 17:26:44 GMT
12hh show hunter god that was sharp and kid looked scared of it,but it still won the class
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Post by observer on Jun 8, 2007 17:20:51 GMT
observer i would say you must know this pony in someway as no1 has ever heard of the section c b4 and you trying to make out it was the best and went the best, far from it! i would not say it was a true type section c but thats my opinion even though i have breed section Cs. as for its show it was far from the best its most defiantly did not go 2 hoys standard and when it got pulled in i was shocked i had not even noticed it! No not connected to the pony. Just asked the girl that was riding it what her pony was called... its not difficult!!! In none of my posts have i said it was the best pony in the ring. Please read my posts properly before jumping down my thoat!! I liked a lot of ponies in the ring but i too loved the C that won. I would say that it is extremely true to type but that is my opinion and i`m entitled to it as you are! xxx
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Post by must on Jun 8, 2007 18:27:02 GMT
must have a good memory
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