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Post by ponymum on Apr 28, 2009 12:25:35 GMT
I love a nice rosette and it seems these big county shows that cost a fortune to enter and where getting a place is really something, give out very sad looking bits of ribbon. I help with the Northwest Champs show at Croft Top and the rosettes are lovely, we coo over them when we are arranging them in the baskets ( I know ... am sad lol) Agree with you dawnie - we competed and won (hurray!) at Northwest champs, and the rossettes were gorgeous...well worth the entry fee xx |
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Post by Happy Lady on Apr 30, 2009 8:41:58 GMT
Went to NPS Area 24, Hants. a few weeks ago and was so surprised if you were an area 24 member the classes were £6. if you were just an NPS member your class was £8. Late entries were £12. what a refreshing change, The Show was held at a lovely equestrian centre and the rosettes were beautiful. I am not an Area 24 member but i think those that are should feel quite pleased with their area.
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Post by wornthetshirt on Apr 30, 2009 12:40:23 GMT
Well done NPS Area 24!
What a refreshing change to hear someone being positive about something, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Ziggy on Apr 30, 2009 17:33:01 GMT
I think in classes with little children they should all get rosettes. It is disgracefull not to do otherwise. How can you explain to a tiny tot if they don't get a rosette, would not fancy doing so to my five year old anyway, that's for sure!
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Post by dun4u on Apr 30, 2009 22:26:48 GMT
I think in classes with little children they should all get rosettes. It is disgracefull not to do otherwise. How can you explain to a tiny tot if they don't get a rosette, would not fancy doing so to my five year old anyway, that's for sure! Yes, and when I hand them out all the little girls are fighting over the pink specials!!! |
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Post by morwenstowstud on May 1, 2009 0:37:38 GMT
I think in classes with little children they should all get rosettes. It is disgracefull not to do otherwise. How can you explain to a tiny tot if they don't get a rosette, would not fancy doing so to my five year old anyway, that's for sure! Surely learning to win and lose are part of growing up. Life skills. Doesn't it make it more special when they do win a rosette? Doesn't it give them something to aim for? My opinion may be harsh but IMO children need to learn they can't always have what they want. |
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Post by thecremellosociety on May 1, 2009 6:02:43 GMT
Lots of pink specials an notts derby show and also some pretty recycled specials that were champions that have been doctored so you can have an extra special recycled special or a pink one ( and orange in case we have boys  ) |
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Post by ellieraga on May 1, 2009 14:39:13 GMT
morwenstowstud, i agree with you completeley, if the kids dont learn to be graceful in defeat at a young age then they will never learn !!!!
again may sound harsh but if they learn at a young age we wont have half as many spoilt brats on ponies that we unfortunatley see week in week out, as dun 4 u pointed out the youngs girls are happy with the pink rosettes so hopefully they understand its not allabout winning the red rosette every time
if they dont get a rosette every time they then appreciate when they do get one even more and hopefully will encourage them to continue improving there riding,
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Post by morwenstowstud on May 1, 2009 22:48:36 GMT
I'm sure I remember a post on HG about children and how badly they can behave when they don't win. I just feel that by giving them a rosette everytime it is encouraging bad behaviour. Yes children should learn to lose gracefully and they should lear to be humble and congratulate others when they do well, instead of throwing a hissy fit because they don't get a ribbon. If a child is repeatedly being placed down the line, then that child should be taught to look at why and improve whatever is getting them placed down.
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Post by dun4u on May 2, 2009 17:31:55 GMT
I'm sure I remember a post on HG about children and how badly they can behave when they don't win. I just feel that by giving them a rosette everytime it is encouraging bad behaviour. Yes children should learn to lose gracefully and they should lear to be humble and congratulate others when they do well, instead of throwing a hissy fit because they don't get a ribbon. If a child is repeatedly being placed down the line, then that child should be taught to look at why and improve whatever is getting them placed down. I totally agree, but I'm afraid it's usually down to the parents who also throw a hissy fit, and moan and complain in front of their dear little off-spring. They only copy what they see and hear from the adults who should be setting a good example. |
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Post by dun4u on May 2, 2009 17:36:33 GMT
Oh, yes, I'd almost forgotten about the P(UK) rosettes at the Spring Show today. Quite pretty, diamond shaped pointed outer tier in white, long tails but ONLY two tier. I was stewarding the in-hand purple ring, perhaps the littluns in the other rings received different ones, but I doubt it.
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Post by nativeponies on May 3, 2009 19:38:15 GMT
Picked up some huge beautiful rosettes at our show today, £6 to enter, the reserve champ rosette my little sister picked up was bigger than her pony!!! the same child was more pleased at a local show when she won a rainbow coloured special rosette on her first outing, our kids dont care about the colour most of the time, but theyre also old enough now to realise where they have lost marks and even when they maybe shouldve been placed higher up, they dont moan or act spoilt, their attitude is theres always next week, had it today with my daughter, beaten by a pony who wrong legged it four times, bit naughty from my point of view, daughter knew it was wrong, but we havent slated the judge,though we do wonder why she did it we havent said she is rubbish or anything, she clearly doesnt like our pony but it doesnt stop me showing under her, maybe we should as proved today even a pony thats gone badly can beat ours but hey ho thats showing, still feeling a tiny bit annoyed though to be honest, everyone said we shouldve won, but, our lorry is clean and re packed ready for next week with 2 happy kids, my little sister won her first placing in a championship today!! drinks are on me!!  |
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Post by dun4u on May 3, 2009 21:47:03 GMT
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Post by nativeponies on May 4, 2009 15:15:10 GMT
Thanks dun 4 u, to be honest i cant afford to have spoilt little brats!!!! every penny goes on the ponies and showing and we have only ever been able to afford younger greener ponies, though have been lucky with how good they have been. My daughter also rides for other people, sometimes ponies with us for a long time and usually she starts off bottom of the line, but she knows if she puts the work in and has a good attitude in the ring she will start to move up the line..and she does! She is so much happier knowing that she has backed, broken and worked d**n hard to get that red rosette eventually, makes me proud, but no dont do spoilt brats and has been many a time our kids have been unplaced but still give their ponies a pat and a hug on the way out of the ring, i am very much old fashioned the way i bring kids up, though they are allowed a voice, just not a spoilt 1 !!!! still recovering from yesterdays show now getting ready for next weeks!! rosette or not, when she see's her ponies on the monday she is equally happy! me too, love the little bu**as
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Post by ellieraga on May 5, 2009 11:18:31 GMT
 i think that says it all nativeponies, a loved pony will give you far more enjoyment and success in the long run than a so called rosette machine (hate that term and why do people use it) saying that suits the people who think they can buy success !!! my daughter loves her ponies just as much when shes at home messing about with them as she does when she wins, when that changes and kids become brats for not winning or getting a rosette i think its then time to look at the fact are they actually enjoying what they are doing  ?
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Post by bumblebee on May 5, 2009 11:51:04 GMT
i think that says it all nativeponies, a loved pony will give you far more enjoyment and success in the long run than a so called rosette machine (hate that term and why do people use it) saying that suits the people who think they can buy success !!! Couldn't agree more. I only go out showing a couple of times a year due to a lack of transport, and although it's nice to come home with a rosette, it's not the end of the world if we don't. We went out to a lovely show on Sunday, and although my horse wasn't placed in one of his classes, I didn't care - he went lovely and it was just unfortunate that it was a large class and the other horses were a lot better than him. But still, we accepted that, came out smiling, and focused on doing the best we could in our next class. Getting back to the original topic - some shows really are a rip off - if you're only going to give out small rosettes then why not reduce the entry fees a little. I went to a show last year and the rosettes were very small, but the entries were only about £4 a class, and it was a nice fun day. The one I went to the other day was more expensive (£9 a class - and only a small local show), but the rosettes really were lovely, and each person who got placed also got given a small prize (eg haynets, grooming items etc), and when there were classes of 7, the one that didn't get placed always got a special rosette. Certainly made the entry fees worth it  |
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Post by nativeponies on May 5, 2009 13:52:54 GMT
agreeing on the great yorkshire thing nearly £50 to enter 1 blooming class no hoys qualifier and god knows how much diesel cost me that much for a hoys and olympia class at solihull!!!
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Post by poniesrus on May 5, 2009 16:12:48 GMT
I never considered the little 'special' rosettes at LR/FR level to be anything more than a confidence booster to be honest. When my girls were tiny and getting their 'specials' they were made fully aware that X ponies had won 1st to 6th place - I would never lead them to believe that they were anything more than a special. However, the girls always realise that not all shows offer specials to children's classes - and they are always more than happy to congratulate those in the ribbons in those situations.
I remember one of my girls being placed 5th in a big class, the judge came along with a lovely purple rosette and she completely embarrassed me by asking the judge if she could please have the 'pink' (6th place) rosette. The judge was very amused and explained that her pony was placed higher than the other pony and that it meant that her and her pony were slightly better, to which my daughter replied 'but I don't mind, that pony is just as nice as mine and the pink would match my bedroom' LOL ....... I just wanted the ground to open up, but the judge came up to me after the class and said 'if only more children had your daughters attitude - so refreshing to have a child genuinely enjoying her pony and not just whinging for the red rosette' !!
I firmly believe that it's the parents fault when you get whingy brats who cry and scream and throw down the reins and stromp off .... have seen it many times, in particular one 15 year old teenager at several shows !! I'm afraid mine know that their ponies are to be loved and cherished and a ribbon, no matter what colour, is to be grateful for !!
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Post by nici on May 11, 2009 22:36:33 GMT
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Post by thecremellosociety on May 12, 2009 7:34:04 GMT
I have just purchased some replacement centres and am trying to make some specials for the kiddies at our show in august, just keep sticking my fingers together with the glue gun !!
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Post by nativeponies on May 12, 2009 8:01:32 GMT
Emmajane, it is lovely to hear someone is going the extra mile for the kiddies, no one likes a spoilt brat, but is nice to get something, more for the parents who have shelled out the cash i think too!! so if we see someone with rosettes stuck to their hands we will know it is you!!
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Post by bowditchblobs on May 12, 2009 19:53:37 GMT
What goregous rossettes, happy children and ponies nicci, it must have been a fun day!!! And the specials are the prettiest of the lot!!!
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Post by nici on May 12, 2009 20:07:33 GMT
Thanks bowditchblobs! It was a lovely fun filled day, and my daughter was thrilled to win the special butterfly rosette (I think for being the youngest - at 5 - in the FR Riding Club Pony class!) She'd been eyeing it up all day (and the show secretary knew it ) - she didn't care about winning any other rosettes, she just wanted the butterfly one - bless! Our club/show secretary and her daughter have their own business making rosettes, and use our shows to trial / showcase new ideas, so we always have wonderful rosettes |
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Post by Giddie on May 13, 2009 10:55:34 GMT
Think it is interesting how children seem to be the ones to blame for stomps etc.. I personally think they are more accepting than us adults.. Have to say l also believe that rosettes should go down to 6th place as was always common practise. There really shouldn't be such things as specials in my eyes and agree with the sentiments of morwenstowstud. When we were children we were just happy to be able to ride a pony to compete and that was the pleasure of the day not winning the rosette, but if you did then you felt special... Everybody tells me l am wrong when l describe what my grandmother always said to me that was..."Go to lose but win if you can" have always held onto this despite my competitive spirit. We went to our first show on Saturday good quality rosettes and we got a 5th. Despite there was only 5 in the class l was so proud of our little two year old who behaved impeccably. I was always taught to thank the judge and steward and congratulate my fellow competitors, which l duely did although l wasn't able to say well done to the winner as they had already left the ring..I think l am going to have to watch her at her next show though lol as she rather took a fancy to a stunning Section B colt...but that made her day as well.. Just a couple of pictures from our show   I was proud to be seen with my pony no matter waht others thought of her and l think that is what our kids need to learn.. To be proud and grateful for being given the oppotunity..sadly l think this lacks in some cases because of the parents, determination to win.. |
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Post by ellieraga on May 13, 2009 11:56:30 GMT
Giddie, super pony, very nice indeed
Totally agree with your comments, rosettes down to sixth and no specials needed, parents should bring there children up to know that they cant win and wont win at every show, if they cant take the fact that they wont get a rosette everytime then they arent ready to be out competing.
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Post by Giddie on May 13, 2009 14:11:41 GMT
Thank you Ellieraga..
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Post by hs on May 15, 2009 21:47:08 GMT
I went to that Patchetts show and I was surprised that my rosette was so small it was really tiny - normally they are much bigger so I wonder what was going on.
They did appear to be giving out specials in one of the classes I was in but so many people had entered they ran out of specials so perhaps that is why the normal rosettes were smaller as they were spending more on specials.
I went to a local charity show and the entry fees were £7 and that included a donation to charity and the rosettes were amazing - I won a class and got two rosettes a winner rossette though it was green and yellow three tiers so slight unusual - plus a pink breakthrough breast cancer one.
Purple is my favourite colour rosette.
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Post by conniegirl on May 24, 2009 14:02:26 GMT
Have to say i went to the Foxes show last year, it was £6 a class (i think, wasnt much more then that if it was more), Chaps and VHS qualifiers. The rosettes were HUGE, truely massive and very very pretty. They were so big infact that running up a pony inhand in the championship everyones rosettes kept falling off as the strings wouldnt hold the weight properly   I love it at shows where all the LR and FR riders get rossettes even if they are just single tier specials. I dont think that 5 yearold children are realy mature enough to understand why in a class of 7 they are the only ones to come away without anything. I know that when i took my little pony out with my cousin onboard she was only tiny but was absolutely made up that she got a little white special rosette, she gave the judge a hug (which made everyone laugh) and in the lorry on the way home she fell asleep hugging it. Her mother told me that she didnt stop stroking it for a week and telling everyone she could that she got a rosette. She made an effort to be there, she helped wash the pony (well his knees and belly anyway as that was all she could reach) and she kept showering the pony with kisses throughout the day. I do think it would have been very very harsh if she had come away with nothing for all that. Local riders clubs should be about encouraging the little ones and making them want to compete. Once you've got them hooked on it then you can teach them about winning and loosing but you've got to get them wanting to be there first. |
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Post by nativeponies on May 24, 2009 14:59:10 GMT
i do think at the championship shows i.e equifest etc etc that everyone should get something, regardless of age!!! alot of money and effort qualifying and going goes into these events and even when not done so well is nice to be awarded for your efforts...and it makes the long journey home when everyone is knackered after a week of showing so much more pleasant!! my daughter has always known she may not get a rosette everytime and has been brought up with the correct attitude to it all..we travelled through the early hours to compete in hoys and olympia quals, came home without a rosette, did she moan? no, she was totally buzzing, on the biggest high because she had got round the workers course and to her this was the biggest achievement of her life!! but she will get that red she is determined!!!!! ;D
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Post by baymare on May 27, 2009 15:19:58 GMT
A lot of the time I find it is dressage rosettes that are really rubbish - which considering you pay higher entry fees is a rip off! Although I have seen some awful showing ones too.
At Leigh we were like kids in a sweetshop when we went to the rosette factory, ordered new ones to start filtering in partway through the season so people don't get the same rosettes all year round, made sure it was the nicest ribbon etc. And one of our committee been sticking specials centres in old rosettes so they're all different and the little'uns have something nice to take home (I'm sure she can share glue gun stories!).
I think it's definitely only fair to give competitors nice rosettes after they've got up at the crack of dawn, sometimes in the rain and mud to come to your show. We only charge £4 a class for members (that's prebooked, fiver on the day) and we can manage it - so why can't the big shows who charge loads AND expect you to be in the ring at 8am???
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