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Post by ellieraga on Jun 3, 2009 14:29:38 GMT
Lovepink, have you tried Pippa Childerhouse  she is a good dressage rider and trainer in the norfolk area, may be worth a go, if you cant find anything by google let me know and i will give you some details. |
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 3, 2009 15:09:36 GMT
Thanks, but just looked and cheapest is £12,500 and thats out of my range.
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Post by ellieraga on Jun 3, 2009 15:55:29 GMT
oh sorry. didnt even look at the prices,
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Post by perfect on Jun 3, 2009 19:48:52 GMT
Try DHI, but astrid may be really busy and not been able to get back, give her another ring.
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 4, 2009 6:08:02 GMT
Just got their number PERFECT, so will ring them later, although they dont put prices up do they. I hate it when people do that, as you seem a "Wally" when they say £30,000 and you only have under £10,000 I will ring Astrid again later. I have found one, which she was asking 11,500 for. I asked her to drop her price and she says she is open to "sensible offers" due to the credit crunch. How far that drop would go -is anybody's guess? She also is cagey about it being good in traffic, just saying she has only ever seen the odd car on country lane, with other horse to give confidence. This mare has been out and competed at 4 shows, so would you not think at this level, it would have hacked out alone? Maybe some people just dont hack on their own? What do you think? I always take babies out on their own, once they have settled to it in company? |
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Post by nativeponies on Jun 4, 2009 7:34:49 GMT
i dont ride my horse out on her own, she is a cow bag!! but i know alot of dressage people who dont hack out at all and alot of people who wont go out on their own at all...we do take the ponies out on their own only because there is only me to ride in the dark winter months or i wouldnt do it at all, there is a nice gelding in the h&h this week £10,500??!
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Post by dizzydora on Jun 4, 2009 8:42:08 GMT
For the right horse distance is no object with us. All the ponies we seem to find are miles away from us, cornwall, hampshire, east sussex and we're based in the north. We just get pics & video's first then go armed with the transport and if we like it bring it home with us with it being so far. Good luck in tour search;D
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Post by nativeponies on Jun 4, 2009 8:47:32 GMT
we are lucky, all of the ponies we currently have, or had in the last 5 years, have found us!! havent had to go anywhere!! ;D but would travel the world for the right one!! dizzydora, you are the kind of person myself and the stud owner i work with adore!!! trailer in tow no messing about, job done!! lol
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 4, 2009 8:58:22 GMT
After some of the bad luck I have had with horses, no way am I handing over 8 to 10 grand without a vetting!
However, I agree, I have turned up tons of times to buy ponies or unbroken youngsters with the trailer/lorry, but thats a different ball game.
I saw the one for 10,500, he is up in lancashire again, but very nice. I have emailed to ask if he hacks out, but no reply. He's only just gone on the market, so I dont think they would drop the price yet, so better leave it for a while.
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Post by dizzydora on Jun 4, 2009 14:33:30 GMT
Im still a bit undecided about the whole vetting thing tbh. Yes i do think it is good in some respects as you get to find out if it has any current problems, however as the vetting is only valid on the day it is done it doesnt really protect you, i know of someone who has had a horse vetted, brought them home then the next day it's dropped dead. Its a difficult one with good and bad points on both sides, like you said for the amount of money your are looking to spend it prob is best to get one done.
Nativeponies - thanks for your comment, that's very nice of you to say ;D when we went down to Hampshire for our 13.2 (who we were told was 14hh to make 14.2) me and my mum set off at some stupid hour of the morning and after an hour or so my mum was really tired so we stopped at the services for a little nap. We parked up in the lorry park, surrounded by truckers and dropped off to sleep. The alarm didnt go off and 2 hours later we were woken by my mobile ringing and when we looked round the lorry park was deserted! lol We got sorted and set off again and needless to say it took us about 12 hours in the end to get there! Got down there, pony wasnt as big as they'd told us, was 13hh if that but she seemed sweet and was cheap so in the trailer she went and off home we came pony in tow...she's worth every minute of that journey though and is out at a super loan home now ;D
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Post by nativeponies on Jun 4, 2009 15:21:00 GMT
awww, Dizzydora, what a star you are!! that is very naughty though not telling you the truth about height!! we tell people everything even if the pony has a quirk, be it only a minor quirk, as we dont have horrid ponies!! I REFUSE TO TAKE THEM!! but do love pepps like you who are serious and do not waste my time i get so so sick of people coming sometimes because they faff about and want you to wait 6 months til they have sold theirs, without a deposit too!!! aaah...well done you nice person!!  |
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 4, 2009 15:53:22 GMT
I have been VERY pro-active today. Decided to look about for non-WB types, to see if I could find a little superstar from another sort!
Am off to see 25 Irish sport horses tom am, all priced around £4000. You never know.
I have also found another PRIVATE sale of WB, 5yrs £6000, which seems promising. I am not going to say anymore than that, as after what happened with "Arrow", dont want to get too excited about any.
Astrid has also now got back to me, so I shall go up there, next week, if these attempts to be "FRUGAL" (is that spealt right?) fail......
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Post by nativeponies on Jun 4, 2009 16:02:01 GMT
good luck..fingers crossed again for you, is about time you had something nice happen xx
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Jun 4, 2009 16:39:27 GMT
Good luck with the Irish Sports Horses. 25 to look at in one sounds promising. I would rather have one of them compared to a Warm blood any day !!! (sorry WB fans!!!)
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Post by armada on Jun 4, 2009 18:56:15 GMT
Good luck with the Irish Sports Horses. 25 to look at in one sounds promising. I would rather have one of them compared to a Warm blood any day !!! (sorry WB fans!!!) I'm with you there Highhill, had some amazingly talented competition animals over the years, always had a smattering of Irish draught or connemara in there, never a sniff of the 'trendy' warmblood (although in theory, a mix of native or draught type (cold blood) with the blood horse of arab or thoroughbred (hot blood) technically makes it a warmblood does'nt it?) as far as my experience goes ,the breed is immaterial if it has the neccesary to go the distance in your chosen sphere!! |
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Post by nativeponies on Jun 4, 2009 19:35:28 GMT
my friend had a welsh D x tb..she was the best little dressage and jumping horse i have ever seen and stunning with it,she only paid £4000 for her, sold at £17,000 when she went off to uni though   |
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 5, 2009 14:04:31 GMT
Went to see the Irish Horses today. One very nice 16hh, looked like make a super Riding Horse, when it matures. Has whipped in all winter, and still legs as clean as a whistle. Really good conformation too. £5,500. However, I could see it wasnt happy today, and objected to the large "Fall" jockey that gets on all the youngsters. He was humping and bucking and I think was very honest not to go into full BRONC ! They assured me he wasnt normally like this, which I actually believe, as I could see the horse was in discomfort from something, maybe saddle.
Anyway, surprisingly enough, I declined the kind offer to get on.......LOL
The horse I had originally liked on their website, I had been told was sold. However, he was there and the dealers wife has fallen in love with him. He didnt look much in the field, but his head was the prettyest thing I have ever seen. Pure white and dished.
Anyway they agreed to get him out for me and even with this "fall" jockey on, he goes on the bit the entire time. Apparently he is an "Irish Shagra". I had never heard of Shagra's, but they told me its Arab mainly, now crossed with warmbloods, to produce really hardy, athletic and beautiful competition horses.
I got on and he is the sweetest, most supple little person ever, on the bit, totally still, the entire time (which is clearly his natural way of going - not training). Only 15'2 and they want £4000.
Now do I buy this little rough diamond, as a project to see how it goes. He is small enough for my eldest son to ride in a years time, once I have taken him out competing a bit. At the moment he is a bit hippy, but all his limbs are clean.
Or do I hold out for the POSH competition horse purley for me?
Decisions Decisions...........
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Post by nativeponies on Jun 5, 2009 14:15:49 GMT
sounds promising...and is always good if the kids can get on something for you, even if not for competing!!! ha ha, i.e hangover!! lol...i would go see a few a write a shortlist and work from there, they are there its just finding them xx
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Post by ponymum on Jun 5, 2009 16:40:39 GMT
Went to see the Irish Horses today. One very nice 16hh, looked like make a super Riding Horse, when it matures. Has whipped in all winter, and still legs as clean as a whistle. Really good conformation too. £5,500. However, I could see it wasnt happy today, and objected to the large "Fall" jockey that gets on all the youngsters. He was humping and bucking and I think was very honest not to go into full BRONC ! They assured me he wasnt normally like this, which I actually believe, as I could see the horse was in discomfort from something, maybe saddle. Anyway, surprisingly enough, I declined the kind offer to get on.......LOL The horse I had originally liked on their website, I had been told was sold. However, he was there and the dealers wife has fallen in love with him. He didnt look much in the field, but his head was the prettyest thing I have ever seen. Pure white and dished. Anyway they agreed to get him out for me and even with this "fall" jockey on, he goes on the bit the entire time. Apparently he is an "Irish Shagra". I had never heard of Shagra's, but they told me its Arab mainly, now crossed with warmbloods, to produce really hardy, athletic and beautiful competition horses. I got on and he is the sweetest, most supple little person ever, on the bit, totally still, the entire time (which is clearly his natural way of going - not training). Only 15'2 and they want £4000. Now do I buy this little rough diamond, as a project to see how it goes. He is small enough for my eldest son to ride in a years time, once I have taken him out competing a bit. At the moment he is a bit hippy, but all his limbs are clean. Or do I hold out for the POSH competition horse purley for me? Decisions Decisions........... Get your money out, go with your gut instinct...4k is a bargain!! |
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Post by Milliesmum on Jun 5, 2009 16:50:09 GMT
It sounds to me like you have your heart set on him! The best ones are usually the ones that find you - I say go for it.
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 5, 2009 17:00:56 GMT
No - I am lurching from one to another. Just spoke to my two boys and they said they want me to get a special one just for me.....
Boys are so nice. I am sure girls (including me) would say, ooh yes please mum, get one we can ride!
I am seeing another 2 this weekend, so will keep an open mind, till then.
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Post by ellieraga on Jun 5, 2009 17:23:33 GMT
Decisions, decisions  but if you really like it then go for it, you can turn him in to what you want in time !!!! Dont want you to be kicking yourself monday when he may be sold, but if you arent 110% then i would hold on |
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 5, 2009 17:45:32 GMT
Having a good hard think. If it was straight forward, I think I would get him, as I could produce something really nice and sell on if not quite BD standard.
Trouble is, the school they have is about 2ft deep in sand. The poor lad was Wallowing about, so it was hard to see his true paces.
The dealer is taking him to dressage on sunday, so I asked to come and watch. She said NO. Either you want him, in which case I wont take him OR you dont want him and I keep him myself. Its because she really doesnt want to sell him, so I am at a disadvantage, therefore cant get good trial ! Very difficult.
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Post by nativeponies on Jun 5, 2009 17:50:54 GMT
can you not find out where she is taking him and go and watch discretely? im sure if he is everything he is supposed to be she wouldnt mind you watching? i would be happy for anyone to come watch a pony for sale at any show, though i'd feel the pressure a bit but i certainly wouldnt mind!xx |
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Post by halfpass on Jun 5, 2009 18:24:02 GMT
The dealer is taking him to dressage on sunday, so I asked to come and watch. She said NO. Either you want him, in which case I wont take him OR you dont want him and I keep him myself. Its because she really doesnt want to sell him, so I am at a disadvantage, therefore cant get good trial ! Very difficult. That is complete rubbish she is winding you up lovepink, who ever heard of a dealer not wanting to sell, plus if she doesn't want to sell then why advertise him, if I was you look for any dressage event with in say a ten mile radius of where she is, ring the organizer and see if the dealer has anything entered then go and watch. |
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Jun 5, 2009 18:36:27 GMT
i think it is very odd that she wont let you come and watch, if she was sure the horse was ok she would be happy for you to come along. After all you are only asking to watch not ride it in the test! Either she thinks it might be naughty or she is trying to push you into saying you will have it straight away. I know you are pretty desperate to get something but . . . . . .
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Post by ellieraga on Jun 5, 2009 20:08:44 GMT
Sorry for saying this but i am going to, sounds a bit suspicious to me im afraid  |
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Post by zac on Jun 5, 2009 20:25:13 GMT
Yes i agree, something doesnt sound right here, most people would be only too pleased to have someone really interested so why try to put you on the spot, my advice look elsewhere x
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Post by ponymum on Jun 5, 2009 20:54:27 GMT
hmmm Have to agree, perhaps ask her to take him somewhere witha better surface to see him move...if she refuses..I smell a rat!! x
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Post by sarah00000 on Jun 6, 2009 6:03:44 GMT
Yes I agree. Either he is for sale or he isnt, and if he is, most people would happily take the horse to another venue for you to try etc.
I am seeing another horse today, which the owner is riding at a clinic. She invited me to watch and then try the horse tom, if I like it. Bit more OPEN, nothing to hide.....
Then there is another one on Sunday, then waiting for an appointment next weeks at Astrid Boltons. I will be shattered by the end of next week, but hopefully will have made a choice, based on a really good and thorough look about.
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she is a good dressage rider and trainer in the norfolk area, may be worth a go, if you cant find anything by google let me know and i will give you some details.
