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Post by wornthetshirt on May 20, 2009 21:09:42 GMT
No, absolutely no, disrespect intended.
But. when you have been in a business, AND been successful IN THE SAME TRADE, for as many years as Robin Avery has, then any young upstart who didn't like his frank but probably factual comments, needs to go back to the Drawing Board,
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Post by sallie on May 21, 2009 8:50:48 GMT
ok please some info . just before i post my hickstead entries (HOYS m&m) any info on the judges Mrs S Fluck and Mr A illsley
please
cheers
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Post by wornthetshirt on May 21, 2009 9:00:51 GMT
Well, neither of them are known for being M&M Breeders and neither are on a Breed panel.
But Mr Illesley has forgotten more than most people ever knew, has a fantastic, shrewd and quick eye for conformation and bred some super TB and TBx animals. Is highly respected.
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Post by sallie on May 21, 2009 9:37:57 GMT
Well, neither of them are known for being M&M Breeders and neither are on a Breed panel. But Mr Illesley has forgotten more than most people ever knew, has a fantastic, shrewd and quick eye for conformation and bred some super TB and TBx animals. Is highly respected. many thanks - you seem to talk aloot of sense from the post i have read - are you a judge and if you do not mind me asking where are you based? will send off entry forms, did the daughter ride for the Gilbert scotts many yeas ago of mr Illesley? ta |
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Post by sallie on May 21, 2009 9:43:58 GMT
sorry abou the spelling but typing fast - knew i should have done typing instead of Physics!!
on the Mr Avery topic - i would pass on his comments i,e would not go , i belive he is judging an olympia instering to see how many turn up!!!!
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Post by Milliesmum on May 21, 2009 9:51:51 GMT
I think this is getting a little bit personal now. Opinions on any judge will vary, some will like them, some won't. But I don't think sniping is getting us anywhere. Could we please just agree to differ?
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Post by jilly on May 21, 2009 9:57:13 GMT
really taffsmum you need to go and have a lie down, this is supposed to be a friendly forum and yes opinions do vary but i think you are now becoming very vindictive towards mr avery which i am sure the moderators are keeping an eye on. i have been in the position of winning and getting the highest conformation and ride mark , only to have if halved the following week by someone else, we discuss in the lorry on the way home and dont involve all and sundry then we decide if we want to go out again, the answer is always a resounding yes! thats showing !
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Post by jinja on May 21, 2009 9:57:41 GMT
I can honestly say that Mr Illsey is one of the best judges to step into a ring IMO, he likes what he likes, is very consistent and loves a mover. He never judges the people stood behind as a pony and as a home produced person I love him. I am biased as he loved our SRT and had her win many times no matter who was in the class.
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Post by wornthetshirt on May 21, 2009 10:11:25 GMT
Sallie, you are right, one of Mr Illesley's daughters (Ruth) did ride for the Gilbert Scotts, way back in the 70's.
She is now a good judge in her own right (Mrs R Newman). The other Illesley daughter, Jane, also showed ponies very successfully.
And yes, I do judge! Based up north.
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Post by sallie on May 21, 2009 10:32:29 GMT
thanks for all the positive feedback will post off the entries and have a nice day out!
worntheshirt are you based in the Borders?
ta
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Post by clobo121082 on May 21, 2009 11:06:11 GMT
I have always found mr Illesley to be a fair straight judge. He likes what he likes but agree usually likes a mover and good bone - clean limbs as well. Having said that (and i do agree he is a good judge) i was a little dissapointed when at a recent qualifier he only looked at one side of my pony in the strip faze and not through the front legs. Hickstead is a lovely show though so go and have a fun.
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Post by chocaholic on May 21, 2009 11:10:12 GMT
anybody know of Mrs J Higson ( Lancashire) & Mrs T Monaghan – Hulatt (Bedfordshire) for srts?? We watched Mrs Higson at Windsor where the Deanhills 128 was miles better than anything else on the day but was not even considered for the championship so maybe worth avoiding at a big show. Have been under her and also watched her classes when not competing and I also find her judging difficult to follow |
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Post by neddies on May 22, 2009 17:51:39 GMT
If mrs fluck and mr illesley are judging the m&m s i will put my weeks wage on hollings being in the top 3...
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Post by jinja on May 22, 2009 19:24:57 GMT
neddies which class are you referring to and top 3 is not necessarily 1st what are you implying that Mrs Fluck is facey or Mr Illsey as I find the latter very fair.
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Post by wornthetshirt on May 22, 2009 19:32:59 GMT
As I have said previously, (IMO) Mr Illesley is a cracking good judge of any horse/pony.
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Post by penny h on May 22, 2009 19:59:15 GMT
oh here we go again...neddies just can't help it can you.! why do you dislike us so much? I have pm'd you several times but you just don't have the guts to reply. Speaks volumes why you still hide behind your moniker. Now if you really think I should enter under these judges then do tell where they are judging....which ponies should I take....perhaps I should ask your advice in future before entering any future shows lol!
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Post by apple123 on May 22, 2009 20:03:57 GMT
penny h maybe they have a slight case of green eyed monster???
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Post by penny h on May 22, 2009 21:04:23 GMT
You could be right. have a great weekend showing I'm off to bed so I can get up nice(?) and early to work my ponies in the hope they go their best!
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Post by sallie on May 22, 2009 21:18:25 GMT
just maybe the hollings ponies are good enough to always stand in the first 3 ----- they are always presented rather well in the ring and the way the bigger ponies go is just fab
just my humble opinion
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Post by wornthetshirt on May 22, 2009 22:28:23 GMT
Sallie, you are possibly correct. The horrid green-eyed monster always comes out to play during the main summer showing season!!
Bit like midges and the horse-fly.
Sometimes more venemous...........
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Post by lesa on May 23, 2009 19:49:52 GMT
Penny post a list of your ponies to the people with green eyes, then they can tell you which ones to take in which class and under which judge, we can all pre judge on the internet many classes not aways as people predict, but these people dont see the hard work goes on behind closed doors.
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Post by penny h on May 23, 2009 20:57:14 GMT
ah thanks! would be good fun to do and possibly save me hours of work and lots of money!
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Post by bigmama on May 23, 2009 22:39:05 GMT
Sallie, you are possibly correct. The horrid green-eyed monster always comes out to play during the main summer showing season!! Bit like midges and the horse-fly. Sometimes more venemous........... Methinks a large squirt of NAF OFF is required in the direction of Neddies! |
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Post by bigmama on May 23, 2009 22:41:20 GMT
just maybe the hollings ponies are good enough to always stand in the first 3 ----- they are always presented rather well in the ring and the way the bigger ponies go is just fab just my humble opinion Not only are they very professional, they are lovely peeps and always helpful and kind |
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Post by tafsmum on May 24, 2009 18:33:02 GMT
Had some lovely judging at Hambleton by Mr Parker Jones - His final line up was nothing like the pull in and have to say he rewarded all the ponies that did a good show. The ground wasnt the best so a lot of the ponies were making little blips in their shows.
What a lovely judge!
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Post by taffmansgirl on May 24, 2009 20:19:01 GMT
I have sat back for while now and watched with some amusement at some of the comments. Neddies if you can not take the heat stay out of the kitchen. I have judged the hollings and had them first and last, both they have taken in their stride. As with anyone, if I like a horse or pony they have to go well, no matter who produces them or who they belong too.
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Post by masters on May 25, 2009 14:03:09 GMT
We went to 13b yesterday, had a sh*t day, nothing to do with judging!!! They were lovely, Mrs V Smith and Mrs D Hesford, will be putting them in my little 'red' book.
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Post by penny h on May 25, 2009 19:38:30 GMT
yes I was one of the blips at hambleton! did think that Mr Parker-Jones did a good job in difficult conditions and gave eveyone his full attention
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Post by tafsmum on May 26, 2009 9:06:02 GMT
yes I was one of the blips at hambleton! did think that Mr Parker-Jones did a good job in difficult conditions and gave eveyone his full attention Us too in the middle of the gallop couldnt believe it, are you taking her to Rutland? |
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Post by deejay on May 26, 2009 13:22:16 GMT
Does anyone know who the judges are for the HOYS worker at NPS area 25?
thanks
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