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Post by ridden stallion on Nov 16, 2006 20:04:26 GMT
Hi, anyone any ideas who would be a good person to break my highland stallion, he is 6 years old and I would really like him to go under saddle next year.
The most important thing is that he is treated kindly but also comes back nicely schooled. Distance isn't a problem .
What does everyone think?
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Post by Sammie on Nov 16, 2006 20:08:24 GMT
I have just broken a 4 year old Highland gelding ready for next year.He was the easiest horse i have ever broken!Highly recommend Aimmee (&^%$ as i dont do it for a job!!!
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Post by Elmere on Nov 16, 2006 20:21:16 GMT
Where abouts are you based, my uncle breaks/schools, not sure whether he's got any space at the moment but i could ask???
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Post by staffs on Nov 16, 2006 20:31:50 GMT
my friend has just sent one to a very good eventer in staffs who seems brill
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Post by stallion on Nov 16, 2006 21:15:37 GMT
my friend has just sent one to a very good eventer in staffs who seems brill do you think eventing people are better at breaking stallions than showing people? Highland stallions can be quite strong especially as they get older, don't know that I would be considering a young lady unless they had a lot of help to hand ;D |
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Post by staffs on Nov 16, 2006 21:49:01 GMT
I always send mine to eventers as they have more guts  and are more used to having to stay put in sticky situations. I knw my friend sent hers to this chap because she didn't want him just tying down to get a pretty head carriage and not coming through at all from behind  |
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Post by Elmere on Nov 16, 2006 22:07:15 GMT
Well i don't think its ideal to send to an eventer either, my uncle certainly doesn't tie down as i'm sure many don't, he used to show jump when he was younger against the best, trained with the best, he now has in problem ponies and breaks/schools for many well known peeps but as we're talking HiPo's he rides Heather Prescotts but probs nowhere near here so i also think Follywood Stud look good  Also i would like to add i helped break my Highland Stallion in at about age of 12, he was about 8/9 at the time, he is very strong but a little darling lol, but then i was riding a younger (again newly broken) Highland Stallion a while back and he was rearing and trying to mount mares with me lol, so i think the older they get the more mannerly they get |
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Post by staffs on Nov 16, 2006 22:15:12 GMT
Well i don't think its ideal to send to an eventer either, Why's that  I wouldn't send mine to a showing person sorry Mel Booth maybe, but no others. How many ponies in the ring are actually going forwards properly? Very few, they don't even track up! When I was looking I was really concerned how bothered they were about head carriage, sticking a pony in tight side reins for hours on end isn't going to produce a healthy, good moving animal. I am sending my cob stallion to the same eventer next winter, the horse my friend sent really is something and had to be done properly, as I have no doubt he will be a hoys winner  Perhaps if you want it done quickly and head carriage needs to be immediate, then I agree showing people may be best  (I'm not referring to anyone mentioned on this thread though before anyone gets worried that I'm bit*hing  ) |
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Post by Elmere on Nov 16, 2006 22:31:31 GMT
Not everyone uses them methods, you've obviously not seen the right people |
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Post by vod on Nov 17, 2006 11:09:19 GMT
Hi Melanie Booth is brilliant at Breaking she does everything nice without a whip! un like others!! She is breaking a section B stallion at the moment along with 12.2, 13.2 and 14.2 so she is good at ther job and wont charge you the earth! she is based in Betley, Cheshire. call her.
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Post by ponygirl on Nov 17, 2006 11:57:52 GMT
I would recommend Janine Modder (Millgrove Tayberry) - based in Herts. Has years and years of experience with Highlands. Tayberry now competes at medium level dressage.
She broke my Highland and he has always been the most straighforward and uncomplicated chap
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Post by experience on Nov 17, 2006 12:34:25 GMT
All I would recommend is that if you do send him away then send him to people with experience of handling stallions and to people who have the facilities to cope with a them.
If that person is experienced with the breed as well then they will probably do a better job.
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Post by ALSO on Nov 17, 2006 14:18:24 GMT
Yes I would also recommend Janine or Amy as both of them seem to school their highlands beautifully considering they are a breed that tend to go on the forehand, all the highlands I have seen them ride look very light in front.
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Post by yf on Nov 17, 2006 19:06:31 GMT
PAM BROWN GETS MY VOTE.
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Post by whoelse on Nov 17, 2006 20:32:22 GMT
aren't there any men out there who would be able to break and show to County standard
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Post by well on Nov 17, 2006 20:39:29 GMT
well if you want a showing person and it must be a man, then go with Richard Telford, Matthew Lawrence, Chris Patrick etc etc, although as you are showing "county" you will know these people already. Not sure why it must be a man though a mannerly stallion should be easy enough for anyone who is experienced to andle Think you will also find that many professionals send their youngsters away to be backed Read the H&H article this week |
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Post by sallion lady on Nov 17, 2006 20:56:06 GMT
Men dont necessarily do it better than females.
Stallions need firm but sympathetic handling not brute force and sometimes respond better to a women than man "if you know what I means".
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Post by whoelse on Nov 17, 2006 21:01:52 GMT
well where have you been - unfortunately all stallions are not mannerly when they come off the hill after 3 or 4 years lliving free, or have I missed something? If I had a bought in lad I would want to make sure the person breaking had enough experience and ability not to mess it up, I'm not suggesting any of the people mentioned are inexperienced in any way, just think you have to be more careful with stallions especially the heavies who can be very strong. If I had a promising county standard stallion I wouldn't be taking any chances, so maybe an eventing person would be best as they are experienced in all 3 phases. or perhaps the driving world would be a good place 2 look? |
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Post by dunno on Nov 18, 2006 10:32:14 GMT
but if the horse is about to be broken, it needs to be pretty well mannered |
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Post by missmanners on Nov 18, 2006 10:37:49 GMT
surely the point of breaking is to produce a well mannered horse |
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Post by Elmere on Nov 18, 2006 11:12:47 GMT
Usually when they've been running out then they're alot more mannerly, where abouts are you, what breeding is the stallion??? I agree men are slightly better though, look at all the showjumpers/racers |
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Post by hen on Nov 18, 2006 12:29:01 GMT
Usually when they've been running out then they're alot more mannerly, where abouts are you, what breeding is the stallion??? I agree men are slightly better though, look at all the showjumpers/racers but whos normally the ones behind the showjumpers - females? the only good men i've seen with horses are normally gay! |
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Post by not true on Nov 18, 2006 17:43:18 GMT
Usually when they've been running out then they're alot more mannerly, where abouts are you, what breeding is the stallion??? I agree men are slightly better though, look at all the showjumpers/racers but whos normally the ones behind the showjumpers - females? the only good men i've seen with horses are normally gay! You made a very sweeping statement with regard to men normally being gay! I send my ponies regardless of sex & age to a couple in welshpool. They are proffesional in what they do which is backing horses & ponies, they are a husband & wife team, husband does all the initial handling, lunging & long reining & the wife does all of the riding once they are happy. They are not tied down nor forced or shouted at, the colts & stallions are treated firmly but kindly. This couple break many young thoroughbred stallions for leading racehorse trainers as well as running a Welsh cob stud & standing their own stallion. I should add that husband is very light weight & so happy to do ponies. Personally i look for a good allround horseman when i am choosing somebody to back my ponies. I like them to come back home so that they are safe, happy & with no hang ups, the rest is then up to me |
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Post by astounded on Nov 18, 2006 20:01:05 GMT
If you buy an untamed stallion off the hill it is your responsiibility to handle it before it goes away to be broken otherwise you should not buy one. JUST MY OPINION |
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Post by Elmere on Nov 18, 2006 20:25:53 GMT
It is easier if you handle them but some places will do it for you, sometimes owners can't handle them thereselves, some that have come here have just been herded off the trailer, never been handled before and i know there was one Highland Stallion that came who was a right git, most Highlands are great though  |
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Post by blimey on Nov 18, 2006 20:48:35 GMT
astounded I'm astounded  Do you really think everyone is capable and has the time to do things others are paid to do in order to earn a crust. |
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Post by Madness on Nov 18, 2006 20:52:09 GMT
I think thats crazy! If you are capable of handling a stallion (or think you are anyway) you should be capable of taking one off the hills...they aren't some raging animal tbh, usually they are pretty frightened and need some gentle aclimitisation and sympathetic introduction to human life. WHY would anyone even consider buying unhandled if they aren't capable to do the work themselves is beyond to me....seems completely idiotic to me.
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Post by astounded on Nov 18, 2006 20:52:39 GMT
astounded I'm astounded Do you really think everyone is capable and has the time to do things others are paid to do in order to earn a crust. Unfortunately I do everyone should be responsible for their own horse. If you cant handle it dont buy it, there are plenty of geldings or mares, or perhaps have it gelded staight away, there are loads of stallions. Sorry. but everyone should take responsibility. |
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Post by lucky on Nov 18, 2006 21:05:59 GMT
completely agree with astounded!
it's people like that who then become or are scared of a stallion which will walk all over them no matter how well trained by any top pro breaker, stallions are still stallions.
if you can't handle one don't have one!
(and yes i can, i have ten)
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Post by 99 on Nov 18, 2006 21:35:24 GMT
lucky what breed of stallions do you have? Do they do ridden classes flat or WHP? Also do they cover mares at the same time as being shown, I'm interested as my friend is hoping to do ridden M&M with her stalklion next year and I would like to use him on my TB mare at some stage.
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and are more used to having to stay put in sticky situations.
I wouldn't send mine to a showing person sorry 
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Do you really think everyone is capable and has the time to do things others are paid to do in order to earn a crust.